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Heritage Preservation - 10/15/2018 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MONDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2018 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER 8080 MITCHELL RD HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-Vice Chair; Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp; Richard Smith; Shanti Shah STUDENT COMMISSION MEMBERS: Joe Pesheck; Neha Bhupatiraju; Sydney Lewis COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Absent was commission member Shah and student members Bhupatiraju, Lewis and Pesheck. Resident Donald F. Hansen joined the meeting. Ross arrived at 7:04 p.m. Kalar arrived at 7:06 p.m. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Spera to approve the agenda with the addition of Don Hanson's presentation under New Business. Motion carried 4-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION: Smith moved, seconded by Thorp to approve the minutes of the meeting held September 17, 2018. Motion carried 4-0 with one abstention (Spera). IV. NEW BUSINESS A. RESIDENT DON HANSON PRESENTATION— SMITH VILLAGE Creamer distributed the two letters she had received via e-mail from Mr. Don Hanson. She displayed an aerial map of the neighborhood and summarized how Planning staff received an application for the three-part development including the Smith Village development and was approved at the October 8, 2018 Planning Commission meeting. Hanson explained how the Smith Douglas More House was a familiar brand synonymous with the City Eden Prairie and how he had EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION October 15, 2018 Page 2 presented at all three Planning meetings (two information meetings, one public hearing). He pointed out his house (near the Smith Douglas More House) on the aerial map and explained his objections to the use of"Smith Village" for the name of the new development. In essence, the use of"Smith Village" changed the context of the Smith Coffee House and the Smith Douglas More House, and could even cause people to confuse the two properties. Kalar asked what the commission could do. Hanson replied he would like to see the commission make an objection to the name; he was actually in support of the project. Olson explained the commission did not have naming rights as part of its purview. Creamer explained the Planning Commission did not actually approve the name per say, they focus on zoning, setbacks, building heights, building materials, landscaping etc. The project name could change when the project is completed. Kalar asked if Smith Coffee was a registered trademark. Hanson replied the Smith Douglas More House was eligible for a National Register nomination. Creamer explained the name was not necessarily a part of the preservation of the property; also, the Planning commission members were satisfied with the answers from the applicants regarding the objection to the name. Discussion followed on the letters submitted. Hanson thanked the commission for its time. Kalar stated she and Spera were discussing as attorneys the possible trademark violation of the name, but both saw no means for this commission to decide this question. Creamer noted the language in the draft minutes from the October 9 Planning Commission meeting mentioning a possible name change. Discussion followed on situations in which developments had temporary names. Kalar noted the agreement at the Smith Douglas More was probably with Dunn Brothers, not Smith Coffee. Spera stated her understanding of Mr. Hanson's objection was this new development appropriated and disrupted his sense of specialness of the Smith Coffee House property which was close to his residence. Discussion followed on examples in which other historic names (Hennepin Village, Mill City) were used commercially. Kalar replied trademark or copyright would protect this. Spera asked if the Planning Commission could make a name change a condition of approval. Kalar replied conditions of approval could not be capricious or based on emotion. Spera asked if there was precedence for this kind of question. Creamer noted the developer might have chosen the name to appeal to this historic quality. V. OLD BUSINESS A. COA —LION'S DEN AT CAMP EDENWOOD Creamer stated she had submitted the commission members' comments and requested a clarification of the ramp connected to the deck and samples of materials,but had not received any updated plans. EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION October 15, 2018 Page 3 B. CHAPTER 6—PROJECT REVIEW TRAINING Creamer displayed Chapter 6 (Project Review) of the Commissioner Training and Education manual so the commission members could step through the scope, requirements, and steps in preparation for the future review of this project. Discussion followed on the public notice requirement for a site visit and the standards for adequate documentation. Creamer stated the actual presentation would involve a public hearing. There would be a staff report; Creamer would work with other staff in the Planning Department. Olson noted it would be good to step through the best practices document. He asked if there was a section for ADA compliance, and Creamer replied she and Kalar had not found it in this document,but Inspections could review this. Olson went through the steps for commission actions and submission to SHPO. C. CITY WIDE OPEN HOUSE/FALL HARVEST - RECAP Thorp stated six signs were sold despite the weather being cold. Spera replied there was a great deal of interest in the signs. Ross stated the number of visitors to the museum increased this year, including first-time visitors. Ross stated there was a good attendance at the Dorenkemper House as well. Spera stated her station was very crowded with children standing shoulder-to-shoulder and being very involved in the project for 45-50 minutes. Olson called for ideas for 2019. Ross replied the open house was held every other year. Creamer replied both events won't be on the same day the next time. Ross suggested holding crafts or games outside the Dorenkemper House. Spera suggested finding games played at that time period. Discussion followed on the history of the name changes for this event and possible games that would fit. Olson suggested the commission members come back with ideas by the second quarter of 2019. VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF COUNCIL UPDATES FROM SEPTEMBER 18 WORKSHOP Creamer thanked Thorp, Olson and Ross for attending and Smith who arrived later. Creamer summarized the discussions: Historical Society wish to collaborate more with the HPC on ideas for the Dorenkemper House at a joint meeting in 2019; the Minnesota River Vista work by Jay Lotthammer, who wished to have a joint meeting in June of 2019 with a site visit. The assessment of Camp Edenwood was discussed and Council member Case requested an update in the spring; improvements to the parking lot were also discussed. Creamer summarized and gave two options for the Town of Hennepin archeology study and Yorkville/Bloomington Road listing; and the Flying Red Horse project EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION October 15, 2018 Page 4 possibilities, including level of restoration, cost, and timeline. There were no direct comments or direction at this point. Olson stated he saw a third option for the archeology project: to have the town of Hennepin and Yorkville/Bloomington Road designated locally without the National Register as a way of highlighting its importance to the commission. Discussion followed on this possibility. Kalar stated such a proposal could be worded to appeal to the City Council and Creamer agreed, saying the documentation was a resource. Olson stated his sense of urgency with not letting this fall off the Council's radar. Ross agreed, saying she did not want to lose all the work done by the commission. Discussion followed on which and how many property owners were adjacent to this property. Kalar agreed there was enough information to satisfy the conditions of the ordinance. Thorp noted the paperwork was completed. Creamer offered to check on the possibility of local designation. Thorp stated he met with Kathy Schwartz some weeks ago but did not get a sense from the Parks and Recreation Department what would be done with the sign. Ross asked if Eden Prairie Center could be a possible location for the sign, perhaps near the historic photographs (on the upper level). Discussion followed on this possibility. Ross noted lighting the sign would not be an issue and it would be collocated with other historic resources. Thorp stated some museum visitors asked about the sign. Discussion followed on a possible other locations for the sign. VIII. FYI ITEMS Ross reminded the commission members of the November 24 tree lighting, including Santa and a food truck. She added there would be a Valentine's themed event in February at Cummins Phipps Grill House Thorp mentioned the Vintage sale in November. IX NEXT MEETING The next meeting will be held Monday, November 19, 2018, at 7:00 p.m. in Prairie Rooms A & B. X. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Thorp to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:37 p.m.