Planning Commission - 12/12/2011 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2011 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Matt Fyten, John Kirk, Katie Lechelt, Jacob Lee,
Jerry Pitzrick, Kevin Schultz, Jon Stoltz, Travis
Wuttke
STAFF MEMBERS: Scott Kipp, Senior Planner
Rod Rue, City Engineer
Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
Lori Creamer, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE—ROLL CALL
Chair Stoltz called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Schultz was absent. Lechelt and Lee
arrived at 7:05
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Kirk, seconded by Wuttke, to approve the agenda. Motion carried 5-0.
III. MINUTES
A. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 14, 2011
MOTION by Pitzrick, seconded by Kirk, to approve the minutes. Motion
carried 2-0. Stoltz, Wuttke & Pitzrick abstained.
IV. INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS
V. PUBLIC MEETINGS
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. NOTTING HILL by SK Partners, LLC.
Location: 15640 Pioneer Trail
Request for:
• Planned Unit Development Concept on 9.87 acres
• Planned Unit Development District Review with waivers on 9.87 acres
• Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 9.87 acres
• Preliminary Plat of 9.87 acres into 20 lots and road right of way
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This was a continued item from the November 14, 2011 Planning Commission
meeting. Cara Otto, from Otto Associates in Buffalo, MN presented the updated
proposal. She stated after working with City staff they have come up with a
revised plan which takes into consideration the neighborhoods concerns and will
still accomplish a desired outcome for the developer.
Chair Stoltz asked Franzen to take us through the staff report
Franzen stated staff recommends approval based on the recommendation on page
2 of the staff report.
Wuttke asked what the opinion was of fire and police side for public safety
regarding this type of cul-de-sac. Rue stated there is a connection to Azalea as
well as Mitchell Rd.
Chair Stoltz opened the meeting up for public input.
Joan Palmquist of 8905 Cove Point who represented the Sandy Point
Homeowners Association stated they agreed to the easement suggested by SK
Partners, however, there were some concerns regarding the sediment coming
through the storm drain and entering the lake. Another concern was about the run
off when this area is paved. Rue stated there are two storm water treatment areas
for the project. An infiltration basin will collect some drainage from the adjacent
subdivision and the infiltration treatment pond behind lots 1, 2 & 3 also will treat
water for the subdivisions. Current conditions, the water runs across the property.
Otto used the overhead camera to demonstrate where those ponds were located on
the project. There will be a holding pond in the NE corner of the project designed
as a wet pond and small rain water garden and infiltration basin on the site
connecting with existing stub with in Mitchell Road.
Fyten commented this type of cul-de-sac seemed a little unconventional and asked
City staff if there were any other developments within the city which had the
double cul-de-sac such as this one that is being proposed tonight. Rue stated there
are a couple cul-de-sacs which come up to thru roads such as Anderson Lakes
Parkway and Forest Hills Road, however, he was not aware of any like the one
proposed tonight.
Fyten asked about the number of waivers which would be granted in order to
make this project work. Franzen stated the number of waivers had not changed
from the original plan.
Wuttke asked what the length from Cedar Ridge Road on the terminating road is
currently. Rue stated it is over 500 feet. It is one of the older plats in the city and
was intended to extend to the North with Cove Point and was never connected.
These two back to back cul-de-sacs are not ideal,however, it was the best plan
based on the feedback received from the Planning Commission and the
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neighborhood at last month's meeting. This is the plan which is being proposed to
address the concerns and as long as there aren't large trees or landscaping planted,
it could still provide an emergency access if needed. Wuttke stated his concern of
taking away the ingress/egress from a fire aspect it is a long stretch for the large
vehicles in emergency situations and would the emergency vehicles having
another access point to mitigate the risk in case of an emergency.
Kirk commented this design is an inelegant engineering solution and what we
heard from the neighbors it seems to be a reasonable compromise.Stoltz asked
Kirk to sum up the concerns from the neighbors from the previous meeting for
those commission members who were not in attendance. Kirk stated his
recollection of the concerns of the neighbors were the increased traffic on Corral
Lane, the narrow street with little lighting and the major curve and also a grade
issue into Mitchell Rd.
Lechelt added another comment from the neighbors at the previous meeting about
Corral Lane was not going to be touched. Staff and developer were going to look
at other alternative options for this project.
Pitzrick recommended city staff to identify temporary cul-de-sacs with signage so
neighborhoods in the area know is not intended to be a permanent cul-de-sac
since this issue has come up before.
Wuttke asked who would be responsible for improvements at the end of Corral
Lane. Rue stated the cul-de-sac was fit into the right-of-way as a temporary
solution and the redesign of the cul-de-sac will be built by the developer including
curb & gutter.
MOTION by Kirk, seconded by Wuttke, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 7-0.
MOTION by Kirk, seconded by Wuttke, to recommend approval of the Planned
Unit Development Concept Review on 9.87 acres, Planned Unit District Review
with waivers on 9.87 acres, Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on
9.87 acres and Preliminary Plat of 9.87 acres into 20 lots and road right-of-way
based on plans stamped dated December 5, 2011 and the staff report dated
December 9, 2011. Motion carried 7-0.
B. DUCK LAKE VISTA 2'ADDITION by April Alm.
Location: 7000 Eden Prairie Road.
Request for:
• Planned Unit Development Concept on 1.15 acres
• Planned Unit Development District Review with waivers on 1.15 acres
• Zoning District Amendment within the R1-13.5 Zoning District on 1.15 acres
• Preliminary Plat of 1.15 acres into two lots
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Dean Johnson of 7455 Fernbrook Lane, Maple Grove; represents the owners
daughter, April Alm for the property at 7000 Eden Prairie Road. Johnson stated
they were looking to split the lot into two single family homes.
Franzen stated staff recommends approval according to the recommendation on
pages 2 & 3 of the staff report.
Wuttke asked staff what the basis was for the PUD waivers. Franzen stated the
PUD waivers were for the shared driveway access on a county road.
MOTION by Wuttke, seconded by Lee, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 7-0.
MOTION by Wuttke, seconded by Lee to recommend approval of the
Planned Unit Development Concept on 1.15 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers on 1.15 acres, Zoning District
Amendment within the R1-13.5 Zoning District on 1.15 acres and
Preliminary Plat of 1.15 acres into two lots based on plans stamped dated
November 4, 2011 and the staff report dated December 9, 2011. Motion
carried 7-0.
VII. PLANNERS' REPORT
Franzen stated this would be the last meeting this year since the next Planning
Commission meeting falls on December 26 h which is a holiday. The next meeting will be
January 9, 2012.
VIII. MEMBERS' REPORT
IX. CONTINUING BUSINESS
X. NEW BUSINESS
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Lee, seconded by Lechelt, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
7-0.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m.