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Parks and Recreation - 11/19/1984 1984 NOVEMBER 5 ,, 19 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA { EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1984 7:30 P.M., SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat j Breitenstein, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz I COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I . ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF OCTOBER 15, 1984 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 Letter from the Eden Prairie Committee for Community Center Expansion C V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 7:55 A. Eden Prairie Athletic Club 8:15 B. Eden Prairie Apartments 8:30 C. Digigraphics VI . REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Community Services 8:45 1. Aviation Policy Plan Task Force Meeting on Flying Cloud Airport 8:50 B. Reports of Superintendent of Recreation 1 . Eden Prairie Recreation/Special Facilities Monthly Activity j and Operational Update 2. Red Cross Swim-A-Thon 3. Commission/1985 Winter Brochure C. Reports of Recreation Supervisor r 9:00 1 . Outdoor Ice Rinks (` 9:10 D. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report 9:15 E. City Council Meeting Report Parks, Recreation $ Natural -2- November 5, 1984 Resources Commission VII. OLD BUSINESS 9:20 A. Review of Proposed Soccer Field Complex 9:30 B. Bridges for Staring Lake Trail 9:40 C. Round Lake Water Level VIII. NEW BUSINESS 9:45 Five Year and Ten Year Projections for Adult and Youth Athletic Facility Needs 10:15 IX. ADJOURNMENT i C i I I i i I APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, November 5, 1984 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT- Marty Jessen, chairperson (late), Pat Breitenstein, Raiford Baker (late), Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Jesse Schwartz f I COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of j Recreation; Carol Foy, Park Planner l I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by acting chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the agenda as published. Cook ( seconded the motion and it carried. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF OCTOBER 15, 1984 MOTION: A motion was made by Kingrey to approve the minutes of October 15, 1984 as published. Cook seconded the motion and it carried. Gonyea abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Letter from the Eden Prairie Committee for Community Center Expansion Refer to memo dated October 29, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and letter dated October 19, 1984 from Bruce Brown, Chairman of Committee for Community Center Expansion. Bruce Brown was present at the meeting to review information the Committee feels would warrant the expansion of the Community Center. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 -2- Brown said the Committee feels that with the growth of the community and current growth of the Hockey Association, Figure I Skating Club and Men's Hockey, the City should consider expanding facilities at the Community Center. These groups are currently buying morning ice hours and time at facilities outside the } community. Cook asked Brown if he has checked with other groups regarding their intent to purchase additional ice hours at the Community l Center. Brown said yes, they would be willing to purchase 200 more hours. He added that the maximum amount of time is being used at Blake. Kingrey asked if groups from outside the community were asked if they had any plans for expansion of their facilities when they were contacted. Kingrey said he feels that the prime time hours are easily sold and we should be talking to prospects about their willingness to accept non-prime time. Brown reviewed the surrounding communities who have no plans for expansion of their facilities. Cook commented that Bloomington and Edina each have two sheets of ice, but they are considerably larger cities than Eden Prairie. He questions whether a city the size of Eden Prairie can handle two sheets of ice. Brown said that Minnetonka also has two sheets of ice, but they are willing to purchase more hours. Also, Eden Prairie has a viable figure skating program and all groups need more indoor ice time. Baker asked why the Committee feels March would be the best time to approve the referendum. Brown said that this would still be the hockey season and the sooner it is passed, the sooner construction could be started. No action was taken at this time. V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Eden Prairie Athletic Club Refer to memo dated November 1, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of } Community Services and staff report dated October 26, 1984. 1 I i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 -3- Don Brauer was present to give a brief presentation on the development proposal. The site is located adjacent to the entrance of the Purgatory Creek Recreation Area on Prairie Center Drive and Singletree Lane. Brauer showed several site plans of the proposed athletic club. He said the club would be primarily a tennis club and the developer is taking advantage of the configuration since outdoor tennis courts are required to run north and south. Brauer said construction of Singletree Lane began today and the schedule for the construction of the athletic club is critical. Portions of the parking lot and tennis courts are within the flood plain area. Kingrey expressed concern over the screening of parking areas and air structures from the recreation area. Brauer said mounding and planting areas from 40' to 80' wide would be used to screen both of these areas. Kingrey asked for a definition of a fast growing tree that would be used for screening purposes. Brauer replied that willows would most likely be used. Jessen asked the height of the bubble from the recreation area. Brauer said it would be approximately 40' . Jessen also asked about the location of a future hiking and bike trail. Brauer said the trail could be located anywhere within the site. Brauer briefly reviewed the elevation levels of the athletic club. Lambert asked if there were samples of the bubble color available. Brauer said he does not have samples yet, but that the bubble could be done in off white. He also said that earthtones would be preferred. Motion: A motion was made by Kingrey to recommend approval of the Eden Prairie Athletic Club per staff report with a contingency that a one year landscaping guarantee is added. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried. Lambert said that if another developer comes in, the primary entrance to the recreation area will be lost. tie suggests a minimum of 3 to 3.6 acres north of the site be set aside for an entry plaza to be used by the public. i i t APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 -4- Brauer said that Mr. Teman, who owns this land, is very agreeable to this idea; however, he feels the City should be thinking of a civic site of perhaps 15 acres. Motion: Baker moved to recommend that the City Council pursue the idea that the City purchase land for an entry plaza. Cook seconded the motion and it carried. B. Eden Prairie Apartments Refer to memo dated November 1, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff report dated October 12, 1984. Lambert said that the site is located on Valley View Road near Edenvale Park. He feels the developer is doing a good job on the site and is planning on preserving 70% of the trees. Underground parking also helps retain a greater amount of trees. Lambert noted that in the original Edenvale PUD, Golf View Drive was planned to extend through Edenvale Golf Course. The developer will not be required to pay a cash park fee since the site is within the original Edenvale PUD. The question of road connections will be addressed by the Planning Commission, but since the road would divide the golf course, it is being brought to the Commission's attention. Kingrey suggested that the City reconsider whether it is proper to extend Golf View Drive at this time, as there have been many changes since the original Edenvale PUD in 1972. The credit given j by Edenvale for the golf course operation certainly establishes its continued operation as a clear and important concern to this Commission. Cook questioned why a street shown on the staff report map coming up from the south has not been extended. Kingrey said this is an old map and the street has already been extended. Jessen said he questions this Commission making a recommendation on the extension of Golf View Drive. Lambert said the reason it was brought to the Ca:,,;,ission is that the golf course is a recreational facility. Motion: A motion was made by Cook to recommend approval of the Eden Prairie Apartments per staff report with the contingency that a study is made to see whether the extension of Golf View Drive is necessary. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried. C. Digigraphics I Refer to memo dated November 1, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff reports dated October 12, 1984 and October 26, 1984. iAPPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov.5, 1984 -5- i I Paul Dunn of Welch Construction was present at the meeting to give a brief description of the proposed development. Dunn reviewed the development as a ten acre portion of the Wilson Ridge Business Campus and referred to as Outlot D. The entire development consists of 60 acres. i Dunn said this is a sensitive area because of the location of the ; creek and the number of trees on the site (152). He said they are i saving as many trees as possible and added that the square footage of the building has been reduced, truck docks are no longer visible and there is more parking in the back of the building. These changes have made it possible to retain more trees. Lambert said that the site is close to the creek regardless of the location of the building and some trees will have to be removed. He added that the developer is planning a generous reforestation program. Jessen asked about the 20' wide public trail easement north and east of Nine Mile Creek. Lambert said he has not received a reply �\ from the developer regarding this easement. Jessen asked how the easement will be protected. Lambert said it will be protected by a scenic easement. Dunn said they had originally planned to replace trees on an inch for inch basis. It was found that in order to do this, trees would have to be planted on top of one another. 1000 caliper inches are i being removed and the developer is replacing them with 500 caliper inches. Dunn added that they have talked to a second architect about the development who also told them it was very limited because of the location of the creek. Dunn said that any dedication on the north side of the creek would be agreeable. Kingrey said he wanted something more specific on Page 5, #2, of the October 12 staff report than "majority of trees". Lambert referred to the landscape plan on Page 3 of the staff report for actual numbers. Kingrey expressed concern over the maintenance schedule on new plantings. Dunn said they will have a professional property management staff maintaining the trees. Cook asked about a minimum setback requirement close to the creek drainage so no salt or chemicals get into the creek. Dunn replied r that a small retaining pond would act as a natural filter. Motion: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the Digigraphics development per staff report. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried. APPROVED MINUTES C f : EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONER, BOARDS AND STAFF I A. Reports of Director of Community Services 1. Aviation Policy Plan Task Force Meeting on Flying Cloud Airport This is an information item only. B. Reports of Superintendent of Recreation i 1. Eden Prairie Recreation/Special Facilities Monthly Activity and Operational Update This is an information item only. Pappas said the AHAUS power skating films can be viewed by anyone wishing to see them. There is no further information regarding the suit filed by the City. 2. Red Cross Swim-A-Thon Refer to memo dated October 30, 1984 from Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of Recreation. Motion: Cook moved to approve the Red Cross Swim-A-Thon to be held on March 16, 1985 from 1:00-4:00 p.m. at the Community Center. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried. 3. Commission/1985 Winter Brochure A group picture was taken of all Commission members present at this meeting for the 1985 City and School District Winter Program Brochure. C. Reports of Recreation Supervisor 1. Outdoor Ice Rinks Refer to memo dated October 31, 1984 from Sandy Werts, l Recreation Supervisor. Motion: A motion was made by Breitenstein to approve the outdoor skating program. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried. i APPROVED MINUTES ( EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 -7- 1, D. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report This is an information item only. Lambert reported that 1.35 needs assessment surveys have come back. 80% of those surveyed had children. To get a good sampling, 35% of those surveyed should be households without children. } E. City Council Meeting Report Lambert reported that at the October 16 Council meeting, the LAWCON ( J grant agreement for Riley Lake Park was approved and bids on the Staring Lake bike trail were refused. I VII. OLD BUSINESS A. Review Proposed Soccer Field Complex This item was discussed in conjunction with Item VIII., A. Refer �. to memo dated October 19, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. C. Lambert reviewed the preliminary site plan for a sports arena which was presented at the October 15 meeting by Dick Ferrick on behalf of John Parrington. The proposal is for a 72 acre site with six soccer fields. Lambert commended Mr. Parrington for his interest, but feels more could be done on the 72 acres. He agrees with the basic concept of a facility to be used for the soccer programs. Cook asked if Parrington was proposing this facility to be constructed by the City. Lambert said yes and that when he spoke to him, Parrington mentioned that there was a possibility that the facility could be used for U of M soccer team and that the Kicks f were also looking for a place to practice. i Jessen said his understanding is that the arena would be used for j large major tournaments. Baker commented that he doesn't feel the subject of a sports arena should be dropped completely. No action was taken at this time, but the report was taken under advisement before discussing the five and ten year projections. APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 5, 1984 -8- B. Bridges for Staring Lake Trail Refer to memo dated November 1, 1984 from Carol Foy, Park Planner. Lambert gave an update on the Staring Lake bridges following the completion of soil borings. It was found that the length of the bridges can be reduced and the cost would be $3,000 less than originally projected. f C. Round Lake Water Level Refer to memo dated October 29, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and letter dated October 17, 1984 from Bob Lambert to the Watershed District. Lambert reported that staff is reevaluating the water level at Round Lake since the funds to construct an outlet were eliminated from the 1985 budget. The Watershed District was contacted to review the project and staff is waiting for a reply. Cook said if some action isn't taken to reduce the water level soon, the cleanup of Round Lake will have to be started over. Gonyea asked why action isn't being taken immediately to correct the problem. Lambert replied that the Council has decided to wait until the Watershed District responds to staff's letter. VIII. NEW BUSINESS A. Five Year and Ten Year Projections for Adult and Youth Athletic Facility Needs Refer to memo dated October 30, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. Lambert said that a comparison between our community and others is difficult since standards are based upon existing facilities and population growth. Lambert referred to Chart A which shows existing standards and projections by population, demand and shortfall. Next year almost all fields will be used at least four days per week so there will still be fields available for use. However, there will be a shortage in 1986. Baker asked what the conditions of the fields are when they are used six days a week. Lambert said the field that will remain in ( the best condition is Round Lake because of irrigation. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. .5, 1984 -9- Jessen said to keep up with demand, two tennis courts will have to be added and two football fields lighted every year. Cook asked how many fields will be added in the next five years. Lambert said that three neighborhood parks (Carmel, Hidden Glen and Eden Valley) are to be built, but they will be small. Either soccer or football can be played at Willow Creek Park, but not at the same time because of its size. Jessen said the problem seems to be with the football fields. Lambert felt that if six . softball fields are lighted, only one football field will have to be lighted. Plans need to be made to develop Miller Park and light four fields at Round Lake. Jessen requested that Lambert compile a list of facilities that are needed and present it at a future meeting. IX. ADJOURNMENT Motion: Cook moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:35 p.m. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried. ( Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary I : AGENDA f_ EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1984 7:30 P.M. , SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BOARDROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook. Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I . ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 1984 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 A. Request by Minnesota Masters for State Swim Meet in March 7:40 B. Request by Ministerial Association for Broomball Tournament on February 2, 1985 V. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Report of Superintendent of Recreation 7:45 Monthy Community Center Report 7:50 B. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report 7:55 C. City Council Meeting Report VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:00 A. Five and Ten Year Projection for Adult & Youth Athletic Facilities (cont. from November 5) 8:30 B. Round Lake Outlet 8:35 C. Purgatory Creek/Staring Lake Study VII . NEW BUSINESS 8:40 VIII . ADJOURNMENT C r .APPROVED MINUTES f ' i EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, November 19, 1984 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room i COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson (late); �. Pat Breitenstein, Raiford Baker I (late), Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None i COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of 4 Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of Recreation I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by acting chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the agenda as published. Gonyea C seconded the motion and it carried. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, 1984 On Page 2, Paragraph 3, Kingrey changed the second sentence to read, "that the prime time hours are easily sold and we should be talking to prospects about their willingness to accept non-prime time." On Page 3, Kingrey asked that Paragraph 4 be removed. �. On Page 4, Item B, Paragraph 4, Kingrey changed it to read, "that the City reconsider whether it is now proper to extend Golf View Drive, as there have been many changes since the original Edenvale PUD in 1972. The credit given by Edenvale for the golf course operation certainly establishes its continued operation as a clear and important concern to this Commission." On Page 7, Item A, Paragraph 4, Cook asked that the second sentence be changed to read, "Lambert said yes and that when. ..." MOTION: A motion was made by Cook to approve the minutes as amended. i Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried. Schwartz abstained. C � .APPROVED MINUTES ( EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 19, 1984 -2- IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Request by Minnesota Masters for State Swim Meet in March Refer to memo dated November 13, 1984 from Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of Recreation and memo dated November 1, 1984 from Joy Eastman, Aquatic Supervisor. MOTION: A motion was made by Breitenstein to approve the State Masters Swim Meet to be held at the Community Center in March providing they agree to the $280.00 fee. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried. B. Request by Ministerial Association for Broomball Tournament on February 2, 1985 Refer to memo dated November 13, 1984 from Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of Recreation and letter dated November 7, 1984 from Eden Prairie Ministerial Association. MOTION: A motion was made by Breitenstein to approve the request for the use of hockey rinks at Round Lake Park by the EPMA for a broomball tournament. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried. Gonyea asked why the Wooddale Church's request was turned down in October as referred to in Pappas' memo. Lambert said that the present request represents all churches in the community and is consistent with the policy that facilities be used by public service organizations for the benefit of the community. V. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Report of Superintendent of Recreation 1. Monthly Community Center Report This is an information item only. Pappas said that the all time high attendance figure at the Community Center is 128,000. So far this year, attendance is at 125,500. Pappas reported no further information on the litigation proceedings. Lambert said that the Council will be asked to authorize the hiring of Twin City Testing at a cost of $4,500 to $6,000 to do a study on the cause of these problems. He added that the City has already received a three page report and costs of the study should be recoverable since the study is being done to the cause of the problem. I i i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 19, 1984 I -3- Baker asked if operating expenses at the Community Center will be covered this year. Pappas said they are doing well, but he �. hesitates to predict because of changes from month to month. l Cook asked if the North Stars have made any comments about the Community Center. Pappas said that when Bill Mahoney was interviewed for the Happenings show on cable, he said that the facilities were good and it was some of -the best ice they had ever used. B. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report Lambert reported that the needs assessment survey has been completed. There were 10 or 12 open ended questions on which staff attempted to tally up responses. Since there were so many different answers and they were experiencing difficulty, it was decided to have IMI complete the project. This will cost an additional $1,200 which will be divided between the City and the school. Results of the survey should be ready by the end of the year. C. City Council Meeting Report Lambert reported that at the last City Council meeting, the Council authorized the pumping of Round Lake. They also approved the donation of a Community Center membership for the Cahill Silent Auction, the purchase of a 70 horsepower tractor with snowblower and the Riley lake study to be shared equally by Chanhassen, Eden Prairie and the Watershed District. j VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Five and Ten ear Projections for Adult & Youth Athletic Facilities cont. from Nov. 5 Refer to memo dated November 13, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and memo dated November 16, 1984 from Chuck Pappas, Superintendent of Recreation. Lambert said that the five and ten year projections were requested by the Commission and are based on the city population and current athletic facilities. Baker said he questions the basic assumptions that were made such as if the City of Eden Prairie will have the same demands in five to ten years that it does at the present time. Lambert said he believes the basic age will not change and the city will probably l_ remain fast growing with a good deal of moderate housing. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 19, 1984 -4- Lambert reviewed the capital improvement projections and summary sheet which projects the City to receive $1 million in grants. However, Lambert feels the City would be lucky to receive this much. Even at this rate, the City would have a deficit of $315,200 i by 1990 which means some projects would have to be eliminated. Lambert said there is also not enough parkland available for more athletic facilities and the program does not include any Community Center expansion or improvements. The projection does include the development of Miller Park. Lambert referred to the chart which shows the capital improvement program for parks and open space from 1985-1990. Lambert said a bond referendum of $1 million to $1.5 million would be necessary within the next five years to ensure that the athletic facilities grow consistently with the population growth. Land that would need to be acquired for these facilities would be at an additional cost. Lambert added that he was somewhat optimistic when figuring on the revenue from cash park fees and grants. Kingrey asked about other referendums that are likely to happen within the next five years. Lambert said that a bond for a new elementary school on the Lake Eden site could happen within the next year. He also said that there has not been as much push recently for a new city hall and some office space may have to be rented. However, he said it could happen within the next five years at a cost of $2 million to $3 million. Jessen asked about the possibility of a new fire station in the southeast part of the city or other new public works facilities. Lambert said there were no plans for this at the present time for additional public works facilities within five years; however, there probably will be a need for a fire station. Jessen said he felt that the Watershed District would participate more in the Purgatory Creek project. Lambert said they cannot participate in a project that is for recreation purposes only, but that water management must also be involved. Cook asked where the 12 football fields referred to in the projection are located. Lambert said they look at soccer fields as football fields and these are located in neighborhood parks throughout the city. He added that these parks are not used as much in the fall as they are in spring. Gonyea asked about the development of a sports complex on the landfill site. Lambert said it has been discussed, but is not likely Cto take place within the next five years. Kingrey said he feels an ad hoc committee is needed and that staff should recommend to the Council that this committee also include other bond referendums in their discussions. r APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 19, 1984 -5- Cook commended Chuck Pappas for his informative memo on the projected income and expenses on a proposed addition to the Community Center. Jessen asked about the possible addition of a water slide at the Community Center. Pappas said that the people who installed the water slide at Valley Fair have come out with a park and rec version. Additional income would be realized if a water slide were added. Cook asked if the example for 60 acres of land to be developed for 1 ; athletic needs as referred to in Lambert's memo was included in the packet. Lambert distributed them at this time. He said the City has received the alignment of Highway 212 from the state and feels it would be a good use of space to expand Miller Park. At this point, Lambert distributed a concept plan for Miller Park. If this plan were used, it would not be necessary to remove any trees. Jessen said he is not comfortable with recommending the approval of the Capital Improvement Program at this time, but would rather go with the other staff recommendation to form an ad hoc committee. Baker asked why this would not be strictly a Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission project since they are familiar with it. Lambert said that this program would affect so many various groups that representatives of these groups should be involved in the planning process. Baker also asked what timing is being looked at for this project. Lambert said he feels this Commission does not have to make a recommendation on time frame. Jessen said that by looking at this program, he feels the city would have adequate facilities until 1986. MOTION: A motion was made by Baker to recommend that an ad hoc committee be appointed to study the needs and priorities for athletic facilities and the expansion of the Community Center and provide recommendations to the Commission. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Round Lake Outlet Refer to memo dated November 15, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. Lambert reported that the pumping of Round Lake started one week ago and the water level has dropped seven inches. He said the pumping will be continued for another week. 1 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Nov. 19, 1984 -6- Baker asked if there have been any complaints from the neighborhood residents. Lambert said he had one call from a resident on Carnelian whose woodpile is under water. She was told that this would only be temporary. Lambert will inform the Commission on the outcome of the December 5 meeting with the Watershed District. C. Purgatory Creek/Staring Lake Study Refer to memo dated November 15, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and letter dated September 7, 1984 from Bob Lambert to the Watershed District. Lambert said that the City will be asked the City Council for $5,000 to fund a study of the Purgatory Creek/Staring Lake area. The study will cost $10,000 and the Watershed District will also fund $5,000. VII. NEW BUSINESS None C_ VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Breitenstein moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m. Cook seconded the motion and it carried. Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary I i