Parks and Recreation - 04/16/1984 1984
APRIL 16
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
`- .10NDAY, APRIL 16, 1984 7:30 P.M., SCHOOL BOARD MEETING ROOM !
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat
Breitenstein, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry
Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
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7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES MARCH 19, 1984
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners
7:35 1 . Homeward Hills Area Residents Requests - Jessen
B. Reports of Staff
1 . Development Proposals
7:40 a. Hidden Glen II
8:00 2. Arbor Day Program
8:05 3. Community Center Report
8:10 4 . 1983 Annual Report
8 :15 S. Council Report of March 20, April 3
VI . OLD BUSINESS
8 :20 A. MAC Recreation Area
8 :25 B. Eden Prairie Horsemen's Request
8:45 C. Homeward Hills Park Plan
F VII. NEW BUSINESS
1�8 :50 A. Staring Lake Park Playstructure - Phase I
9:15 B. Summe•r Recreation Programs
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9:35 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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"'APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, April 16, 1984 7: 30 P.M. , School Board Room
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson;
Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook:,
Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey
C01"!YIISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Raiford Baker and Jesse Schwartz
CO;)MISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services
OTHERS PRESENT: Cris Fleck, Charles Pappas,
Community Center Manager; and
Sandra Werts , Recreation Supervisor
-r I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by chairperson,
Marty Jessen.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Kingrey added item VI D - Preserve Liquor Store. .
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the agenda as amended.
Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimou.tly.
III. APPROVAL OF 1•11IRTTES OF MARCH 19, 1984
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the minutes as published.
Cook seconded the motion and it carried. Gonyea and Kingrey
abstained.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS, AND 001-PMUNICATIONS
NONE
V. RECOMI!ENDITIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioilers
1 . Homeward Hills Area Residents Requests . - Jessen
Jes:,en informed the Commission that he and Lambert met
with Jim Ostcnson and tiiu other representatives of the
Homo and Hillo area. This meeting; teas regarding the
status of the Ho:_-iowurd Hills park development -and the
pendiri;; hind dedication from BPI . The meeting iias
f succoosful in ansverin.- the :najority of their que-stions -
`-_ Jc��::r�►� nlco said thrt tlh:r;y tnikod about a couple of
tot, lots that woro dedi.e:_0.(rcl thero a lon;; time n;;o.
L.a,rbort find C:alhoon L;nve t hern some ideas for development. +.
Ti►� C;o�nmi.::::ion iu ruol'r !1W liti►i the coiisens►is of the
noir h!»rhuod on hot. they wutil�l 1i.kc tlio::e tot 1otc,
developed .
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B. Reports of Staff °'
1. Development Proposals
a. Hidden Glen II
Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from
Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and
Staff report dated April 6, 1984 from
Michael Franzen, Senior Planner.
Lambert stated that Hidden Glen II was first
brought to this Commission last summer. It is
located in the northwest part of the City.
Dick Ferrick and Richard Bloom were present to
give a breif history of the development and to
explain •the present plans.
Ferrick stated that Hidden Glen received its
initial concept approval. from the City last year.
Bloom presented the present plans. He stated that
Hidden Glen II has received initial plat approval
from the Planning Commission. The plans now
include taking the first phase of 64 lots and
adding 31 lots to that. The first phase of
development would then include 95 .1ots and would
include grading for the park as per the plan.
Therd has been discussion with the Planning
Commission regarding sidewalks, bikeways , the
park area, and the construction of Dell Road.
There has been a request for an additional
sidewalk along street C, beleiving that the area
would experience a fair amount of development
activity. Bloom stated that out of the 20 acre
parcel only 3 to 4 acres are developable. The
rest is floodplain area. Bloom said that
Derrick Laird Company does not expect a lot of
additional units to be built in that area.
Bloom did ask for that requirement to be waived.
Bloom also said that he feels there is a fairly
extensive pedestrian and bikeway system currently
invisioned .
Ferrick and Bloom tried to clarify the plans for
Commission members. They showed on their plans
exactly where streets , sidewalks, and bikeways
ifill be. y
Kingrey commented that lie did fool therc ►could
be a lot of pedestrian, bicycle, and auto traffic
on Dell Road.
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Kingrey also stated that the City should share
the cost of the bituminus trail along the west
side of proposed Dell Road. Lambert stated that
could be a possibility. Jessen commented that the
City is getting a lot of park frontage from this
project and agreed that the City should share
the cost of the trail.,
MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval
of
--laden Glen II as per the Staff Report with lthe
following amendments:
1 . The City should not require a sidewalk on
C Street.
2. The City should participate in the construction
of the bituminus bicycle trail on the south
and west side of Dell .Road in this phase of
development. It should be to the extent that
the proponent would grade and create an
acceptable to staff bicycle path base and the
City would lay the surface.
3. Outlot 13 should be dedicated to the City in
the third phase of development.
Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried
- unanimously.
�- 2. Arbor Day Program
Refer to memo dated April 12, 1984 from
Stuart Fox, City Forester.
This is an information item.
3. Community Center Report
Refer to March Monthly Activity and Operational
Update.
This is an information item.
Cook inquired as to what has been done in regard to
ceiling that fell down. Lambert answered that they
have met with the contractor, architect, and their
attorneys. All the papers have been filed.
4. 1983 Annual Report
This Is a Staff tool that is used often. It can
be used to answer questions easily.
5. Council Report of March 27, April 3
Lambert: stated that at the March 27th meeting,
the Council approved the bid from Custom Surfacing
for $38,46 ) to do the trail development: at Staring
Lake f'ark. They also ay)proved the I-ive Year
Ctipital Improvemorit Program. They also approved
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the Bryant Lake Surface Water Use Ordinance.
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That now has gone to the DNR for approval.
On Community Education and Recreation Duplication,
the Council has directed Staff to contact the
Superintendent to present the proposal to the
School Board for their reaction. The Council
felt it should be a two part question. The staff
question is a separate issue and should be addressed
by the City Manager. The question that should be
addressed is whether the City or the School should
be doing those kind of programs. It has now been
fowarded to the Community Education Advisory Council
and they will make recommendation to the School Board.
The Council also approved the plans for the North Stars
addition. They will be breaking ground around May 1, 1984.
The Council reviewed the Purgatory Creek Recreation
Area Draft raster Plan. They put it on hold until
their next meeting. The Council also approved the
Tax Forfeit Lands List.
At the April 3, 1984 Council meeting, there was nothing 4 ;;
related to this Commission.
VI . OLD BUSINESS
A. MAC Recreation Area
Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from
Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services.
This is in the process of being approved by the
Metropolita.n ,Airports Commission. .
B. Eden Prairie Ljorsemen' s Request
Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 .frogi Bob Lambert.
A letter has been submitted to the City from Kurt Cole ,
vice-president of the Eden Prairie Horsemen, regarding
their Club proposal to use airport property for a
riding ring. Lambert stated that it looks as though
the ridinL, ring proposal will be approved by the
Metropolitan Airports Commission. So the questions
we should be asking -now are what are the costs involved? j
Who should fund those costa? and Who are we serving?
Refer to the memo for proposed costs . Representatives
from the Club have informed Staff that a gravel parking
lot would not be neccesary.
There were a number of members of the Club present.
Kurt Cole, Vice-President and the President informed usVF;
of their intention; to help with providing materials ,
f►.indin , and lc,bor. They are also willin- to take care
of the mainl oilance of the ring.
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I The main concern of the Commission was that the ring
would be properly maintained as it will be very visible.
Members of the Commission agreed that this could be a
real asset to the community.
Lambert informed the Commission that the lease can be
terminated on a 90 day notice and tht-ct is also something
to consider.
Kingrey stated that shows should not be held when the
ground is extremely wet. Jessen agreed.
Cook inquired as to how many members are in the Club.
The President answered that there are 55 family
memberships.
Lambert reminded the Club members that this would be a
public facility to be enjoyed by all interested parties.
NOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Commission approve
. e E en Prairie Horsemen' s Request. The Club should
work closely with the City. The Club will be
responsible for constructing the fencing and all
maintenance. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
C. Homeward Hills Park Plan
Lambert stated that the City presently owns 15 acres
In this area and are waiting for the deed from
Browning Ferris Industries for the remainder of the
land for the park. .
Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Uommunity Services. Lambert explained
the park plans.
Kingrey expressed concern for the safety of the skaters
on this type of hockey and skating rink. Lambert
disagreed. This will be discussed at a later date,
when the time comes to actually put in the rink.
This is an information item and no action was taken.
D. Preserve Liquor Store
Kingrey recommended action be taken regarding the
Preserve Liquor ;More. The liquor store profits
are to be used for Parlt:,, Recreation, -and Public
Safety. Due to a negative in revenue at the Preserve
I,iquor Store , tlieL;c areas arc riot rccciviriL; any fundo.
Kingrey suggested the Commissionl recon:nlcnd closing the
preserve Liquor Store . The Co;;unic:.l.on did agrec, that
the citizens of Eden Prairie ohou..1d see Where the
profits arc going,.
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MOTION: Kin;rey moved that the Parks , Recreation, and
Natural Resources Commission recommend to the Council
to takes positive action to correct the negative casli flow with the
liquor stores for the following reasons:
1 . people have discontinued their buying at the
Eden Prairie Liquor Stores because it is impossible
for them to see any direct tangible return for their
purchases as promoted.
•2. The Commission has the continuous concern of the
depletion of the profits from the successful
liquor store as a result of the unsuccessful liquor
store at the Preserve. The Commission is receiving
feedback from the community regarding the lack of
funds coming to the Parks, Recreation, and Natural
Resources and The Public Safety Commissions
Cook seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Staring Lake Part: Playstructu.re - Phase I
Steve Calhoon was present to introduce this. -proposal.
Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, `
Director of Community Services.
Lambert and Calhoon showed slides of the proposed area.
The playstructure would include wood playstructures,
tube slides, rock walls for climbing, slides, and a
cable ride. Other features would be benches, belt
swings, and unique landscaping.
Lambert informed the Commission that what* Is needed
now is approval to bid the grading and the first phase
of the playstructure.
Kingrey expressed concern for the safety of these
playstruetures. Lambert stated that the manufacturers
leave reviewed the design and do not oppose that type of use.
MOTION: Cook moved to adopt the plans for the Staring
La'.:e Yarlc playstructure - Phase I as per Staff memo.
The Commission approves to accept bids for grading and
the first phase of development. Gonyea seconded the
motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Su�amei• Rc r.r.r.r�.ti.on pro,;ranis
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This is all information item.
K'.ngrcy moved and Breitenstein :3cconded the motion 'to
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Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Eno
Recording, Secretary
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