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Parks and Recreation - 02/06/1984 1984 FEBRUARY 6 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE i AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION .UNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1984 7:30 P.M., SCHOOL BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF• Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III . MINUTES OF JANUARY 16, 1984 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 A. Donation from Viking Bassmasters Club of Fishing Dock on Staring Lake V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:40 a. Prairie Center Business Park 8:00 b. Village Greens 8:10 C. Knob Hill Addition 8:20 2. Report on Liquor Store Profits 8:25 3. Resolution 84-17 & 84-23 Authorizing Application for MnDOT Bikeway Grant 8:30 4. Metro Survey on Leisure Services 8:35 S. Review of Park Reservations for 1983 8:40 6. Council Report - January 14, 1984 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:45 A. Community Education/Recreation Programs 9:30 B. Report on Community Center Operation :50 C. Cash Park Fee Report to Council and Development Commission d Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission (continued) onday, February 6, 1984 VII. NEW BUSINESS 10:00 A. Request Authorization to Bid for Playstructure at Red Rock Park and Lake Trail Estates Park 10:05 B. Five Year Capital Improvement Update 10:10 VIII. ADJOURNMENT ]I J r i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, February 6, 1984 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, Chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Marge Friederichs COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Charles Pappas, Community Center Manager; Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News; and Sandra Werts, Recreation Supervisor I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7: 30 p.m. by chairperson, Marty Jessen. , II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Lambert added item VB7 - Community Center Monthly Report and item VIIC - Bridge at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek. MOTT.ON: Tar-itea-;tea.n moved to approve the Agenda as amended ac T-Yartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously., III . MINUTES OF JANUARY 16, 1984 Page 2 paragraph 4 sentence 2, change to: The only development proposals that will be presented at this 1 commission will be the ones where discussion is necessary regarding cash park fees, trails, parks, and so forth. Motion on top of page 7, change to: Baker moved that The Park and Recreation Commission express their support for activities provided through the city's recreation program and to invite the members of the advisory committee, the superintendent, community education coordinator, and whoever else is interested in discussing the future of community education in Eden Prairie. MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the minutes as amciided- Brel nstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 5 r Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984It: Parks , R t p I 2 - I V. PETITIONS, REQU STS, AND COMMUNICATIONS 3. A. Donation from Viking Bassmasters Club of Fishing Dock on Staring Lake Refer to memo dated January 30, 1984 from Carl Jullie, .� City Manager. V E • The Viking Bassmasters Club of Eden Prairie has j indicated their wish to donate a fishing dock to the City of Eden Prairie. This dock would be installed in Staring Lake on the west shore, just north of the j parking lot. The dock would be a floating structure, anchored by 411 steel pipe. The dock would not have to be removed from the lake in the fall and due to heavy duty construction and design should require little maintenance. Lambert stated that the location is somewhat of a compromise. The west shore does provide the easiest access although it is mostly weeds in July and August. Jessen inquired as to the possibility of moving the dock later if it proved not to be the best location. Lambert answered that the dock could easily be moved if that was the situation. MOTION: Baker moved that the City of Eden Prairie - accept this generous donation. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none ? B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Prairie Center Business Park Refer to memo dated February 3, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. 1 Michelle Poster, Assistant Director of Planning for Opus Corporation presented the plan for the Prairie Center Business Park. She stated that, at this point, they are requesting from the city i a concept approval for a planned industrial area. The Opus Corporation is proposing three highly office intensive buildings for high technology companies. The buildings would be well designed and of high quality. , d 1 4 Pax•ks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 - 3 C� She commented that Opus is very well aware of the City' s parks plan in this area and are sensitive to the .fact that this is an important site for the City' s planning. She felt that w this proposal would be a good transition between Rosemount Engineering to the east and the other proposed development to the west of Prairie Center Drive. She stated that this proposal would not be detrimental to the park planning. Lambert stated that the Planning Staff Report listed nine examples of conditions that might be put on the buildings to assure a good transition and give the area an office character. f Lambert expressed concern for an industrial park in this area. His main concern is that the whole area will turn into an industrial area instead of office and commercial. Kingrey shared Lambert' s concern. Kingrey stated ? that this area really is the front door to the City. It should not be used in this way. k Lambert commented that if there would be industrial areas on both sides of Prairie Center Drive, there would really be no need for developing a park in the Purgatory Creek area. Lambert refered to blueprint and stated that Parcel A would be fine to use as light industrial but Parcels B and C should really be office and commercial. Foster stated that the City's guide plan does permit industrial in this area. Jessen suggested the commission concern itself 4 with the question of how this proposal would effect the park across the street. He agreed that this area could be used for something better than a warehouse but on the other hand it is consistent with the City's plan. MOTION: Kingrey moved that the Park and Recreation Commission approve the concept proposal per the Planning Commission's report inclusive of the nine examples of conditions for the buildings. Schwartz seconded the motion F and it carried unanimously. 21 i Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 4 _ b. Village Greens Refer to Staff Report dated January 20, 1984 from Chris Enger, Director of Planning. Lambert stated that the reason this proposal has come to the attention of the Parks Commission is the concern for park services. Bob Martinson, representative from the Kerr Companies presented the plan for Village Greens. He stated that Village Greens would be a 122 unit condominium building. The buyers would be mostly first time buyers with a small percentage of children. The developer has provided an area 60 by 120 feet for a tot lot. The area would be fenced and would include play gear that has already been established following the City's standards. The developers see this tot lot as a supervised play area. Baker inquired on what impact the golf course would have on the development. Martinson replied that they are working closely with the owner of the golf course, hopefully this will preempt problems. Kingrey inquired about the tot lot. Lambert �. replied that he has worked with the developers on the location of the tot lot. Because of the location, children will need assistance to get to the tot lot. MOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Park and Recreation Commission approve Village Greens per the Planning Staff's recommendation. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. c. Knob Hill Addition I Refer to Staff Report dated January 20, 1.984, from Stephen Sullivan, Assistant Planner. I Lambert stated that the reason this proposal has come to the attention. of the Parks Commisssion is that the property does abut Purgatory Creek. There is a requirement for conservancy. There is a blot of mature trees in the hills that should be preserved. Ron Krueger, Land Surveyer from Countryside Investments presented the plan for Knob Hill. He stated that the plan does perserve the majority of the mature trees. Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 I 5 - i Kingrey inquired if there would be a restriction for buyers regarding the cutting of trees in their backyards. Couger replied that the question has not come up previously but could be a possibility. MOTION: Kingrey moved that the Park and Recreation Commission approve Knob Hill per the Planning Staff' s recommendation. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. Report on Liquor Store Profits Lambert stated that the bottom line is that there are no profits. The liquor store near Anderson Lakes Parkway is loosing money. Lambert said that the Council will look into closing that store. 3. Resolution 84-17 and 84-23 Authorizing Application or MnDOT BiReway Gran MOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend that the council file application. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 4. Metro Survey on Leisure Services This is an information item. 5. Review of Park Reservations for 1983 This is an information item. Lambert recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission take formal action on recommending that rent money from park land's use be put into the parr development fund. There will be further discussion later. 6. Council Report - January 14, 1984 Lambert stated that there were a couple of items discussed at the meeting regarding the Parks Commission. First they did approve the application for the MnDOT Bikeway Construction Program. The council discussed at length where the money should come from. The end result being that they would decide after the application is approved. Lambert referred to the variance for permanent dock in Bryant Lake that the Parks Commission approved at the January 16, 1984 meeting. It turned out that the lot really was not a lot. It was an easement on a lot, therefore the owners had to request a variance for two docks on one lot. This had to be taken up with the Board of Appeals. The Board of Appeals recommended to Staff not to allow two docks on one lot. Parks., Recreation. and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 - 6 - 7. Community Center Monthly Report This is an information item. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Community Education/Recreation Programs Dr. Jerry McCoy, Superintendent of Schools was present to address this situation. Others present regarding this were Dr. Judy Cooper, Assistant Superintendent and Jeanne Zetah, Community Education Coordinator. Dr. McCoy stated that the school district is willing to cooperate with the City regarding community education. He felt programs should be offered to benefit the total community. He suggested that there should be one mailing for community education. Dr. McCoy said that he was present at the meeting to say that the school district is willing and able to take over community education in Eden Prairie. He offered a time for questions. Kingrey thanked Dr. McCoy for coming and informed him that the Park and Recreation Commission does have cooperative intentions. Jessen asked Dr. McCoy what he sees in the future for community education in Eden Prairie. Dr. McCoy replied that he shares the vision of the nation to expand regular education to community education. There is a need for constant re-educating of oneself. The school district wants a program to go beyond recreational to university level courses. Through television, a new way to deliver instruction can be found. Senior Citizens have been ignored in the past and hopefully there will be programming ' offered for them. All types of classes will be offered. The orchestra will probably fall under community education. Dr. McCoy also stated that he is in favor of the arts. He ended his answer in saying that the Board of Education does see Community Education as a target area. Lambert added that the City would continue some recreational programming in the parks and the community center. He also commented that it should be one mailing. Gonyea inquired as to who would be the liaison from the Park and Recreation Commission. McCoy answered that Bob Lambert would be the representative on the Advisory Council. Lambert stated that the Parks Commission could still give the school district ideas for programming. ( McCoy offered that the lines of communication remain open. Jessen suggested everyone think about what was said and discussion will follow in two weeks. i Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 7 / B. P wort on the Community Center Operation Refer to memo dated January 25, 1984 from Charles Pappas, Community Center Manager. Charles Pappas was present to explain the report. He informed the Commission that there will be a new format for the monthly reports. There will be three areas on the report; activities,,operationp, and problems. Jessen inquired as to the response that Pappas gets from Magney Construction concerning all the problems. Pappas answered that he gets little response. There will be legal action taken. Kingrey offered Pappas the Commission' s support on all matters. Pappas stated that he will keep the Commission better informed on the Center' s operations. ' C. Cash Park Fee Report to Council and Development Commission Refer to memo dated January 25, 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. Lambert reminded everyone about the meeting on February 10th at 7:30 a.m. Lambert called attention to page two on memo. He has added additional information regarding the increase in cash park fees. Lambert offered a second alternative for the increase. The alternative being an increase to $2200/acre all the way across the board - Commercial, Industrial, and Office. VII . NEW BUSINESS i A. Request Authorization to Bid for Pla structure at Red Rock Park and Lace Tra Es a es Park MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve authorization to bid or playstructure at Red Rock Park and Lake Trail Estates Park. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Five Year Capital Improvement Update Refer to memo dated February 1 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. A draft copy was developed at this time to provide information to the Development Commission regarding the recommendation i on cash park fees. The update is not complete as the recommendations from the Master Plan for the Development of Purgatory Creek are not available at this time. r There was discussion regarding whether or not the money from rentals and reservations should be put into the park fund. Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission Feb. 6, 1984 _. 8 Jessen commented that he felt the rent from parkland that is used for farming should be put into the capital fund. MOTION: Schwartz moved for the Park and Recreation to recommend to the council that the Park and Recreation Commission retain money collected from all rentals and reservations in the Park fund. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried. C. Bridge at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek Lambert stated that instead of a bridge at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek, a controlled structure to maintain the floodplain is being proposed. This controlled structure being a culvert. The only reason for a bridge is to maintain a walking path from Staring Lake Park to Purgatory Creek Park. There was discussion regarding alternatives. MOTION: Baker moved that the Park and Recreation recommend two bridging structures be built at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek - one for water and one for trail use. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII . ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Breitenstein moved and Baker seconded the motion o adjourn at 10:20 p.m. It carried unanimously. Respectfully Submitted, Karen Eno Recording Secretary