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Parks and Recreation - 07/18/1983 1983 JULY 18 !) MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE r AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION ' . MONDAY, JULY 18, 1983 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, Chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breintenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx Time to Begin Item 7:30 I . ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF JUNE 6 $ JUNE 20, 1983 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS � - I None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 a. High Trail Estates 2nd 7:50 b. Westover 8:00 2. Community Center Use Reports 8:05 3. Management & Restoration Reports on Bryant Lake P, Riley Lake 8 :10 4. Council Report of June 21 $ July 5 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:15 A. Eden Prairie Horsemen Riding Ring (continued from June 21) 8:30 B. Staring make Trail Easement 8:35 C. Softball Field Needs Report 8:45 D. Goals and Policies VII. NEW BUSINESS I 9:30 A. Riley Lake Parkin Problem 3 9:45 B. 1984 LAWCON GRANT 10:00 C. Round Lake Parking 10:15 VIII. ADJOURNMENT r APPROVED MINUTES % EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES:COMMISSION t MONDAY, JULY 18, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL C014MISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, Chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jesse Schwartz, Jerry Kingrey (late, 9:1S p.m.) COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHER: Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Agenda as published. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF JUNE 6 & JUNE 20, 1983 June 6, 1983: Jessen suggested the ,following changes: Page 1, last para. - take out one "of" in third to last line. Page 3, last para. - 1) change "Including' to "Increase". ti'IOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Minutes of June 6, 1983 as published with the above changes. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. MOTION: Friederichs moved to approve the Minutes of June 20, 1983, as pub lished. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Breitenstein abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS - None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Cormnissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. High Trail Estates 2nd Lambert reported there are no significant parks and recreation issues with this proposal, therefore no representative of the proponent was asked to be present at this meeting. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recoimnend approval of High Trail Estates per Planning Staff Report of June 24, 1983. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. i i Minutes - Parks, Recreation $ approved Natural Resources Commission -2- July 18, 1983 b. Westover Tom Boyce from Centex was present to answer any questions regarding this proposal. Lambert noted that the Tot Lot in this proposal is "Homeowner" owner and the plan shows 4' wide sidewalks and they should be 5' wide to meet City standards. MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of Westover per Planning Staff Report of July 8, 1983 with changes recommended by Community Services Staff in report of July 14, 1983. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. Community Center Use Reports Lambert referred to this as an information item with no action required. Baker noted that the Ice Arena useage is very good but feels there is still time available for sale. He realizes if the North Stars use the arena they will take up some slack time but perhaps the City should consider additional useage. I-Ie also noted a low percentage of useage for the racquetball courts. Baker suggests comparing 1982 useage to 1983. Jessen questioned why membership is down this year compared to last year. Baker suggested a publicity campaign in September or October might be a way to promote memberships for the remainder of the year. Jessen was in agreement with this idea. Lambert said he will consider these suggestions and report back to the Commission soon. 3. Management & Restoration Reports on Bryant Lake & Riley Lake Lambert reported that the DNR has chosen Bryant Lake and Lake Riley to do studies to improve the water quality of the lakes. Lambert added that in his discussions with the DNR to date there are still many unanswered questions as to cost, how long the study would take, etc. The DNR has finished Phase I of the study and now wishes comments from the City. MOTION: Baker moved to recommend that the City inform the DNR that Eden is currently doing some of the proposed water quality improvements on Lakes Bryant and Riley, that the City recognizes the studies and agrees with the reasons for them and the recommendations provided. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. j 4. Council Report of June 21 & July 5 June 21, 1983: Council approved monitoring Staring Lake water quality. July 5, 1983: No pertinent issues for this Commission. j Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -3- July 18, 1983 VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Eden Prairie Horsemen Riding Ring (continued from June 21) Lambert recommends this item be tabled until the City receives a report from the Metropolitan Airports Commission. Jessen commented he does not feel a fence made of steel posts and snowfence is a safe or practical idea. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend continuing this item until the 14, 1983 meeting. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Staring Lake Trail Easement MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend approval of the language of tie Staring Lake Trail Easement and approval of the overall agreement. Also, the agreement should include that the term of the easement begin upon commencing construction across the Hennepin Technical Center property. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried. Friederichs abstained. C. Softball Field Needs Report Lambert referred to Staff Memo of July 14, 1983, wherein Staff is suggesting the City consider raising team fees to help cover costs of operating the softball fields. The softball demands within the City have risen sharply over the past few years. Staff is recommending increasing team fees from $130 to $200 and set aside $70 per team for capital improvements. Schwartz said from a sponsor point of view he would not object to the increased team fees. Jessen said he feels the teams should not be assessed but that the City should cover the costs. However, if the concensus is to raisrthe fees, he suggests raising them in increments rather than all at once. Baker said he has heard from many parents that they are not happy with the conditions at the Flying Cloud Ballfields, i.e. dust, benches, long grass, etc. He feels perhaps the parents would be willing to pay I extra to upgrade the poor conditions. Lambert said he feels perhaps 50 of the parents would be willing to pay extra but not the majority. MOTION: Schwartz moved to approve establishing a capital improvement TME176r ballfields in the City through increased team fees to $200. Exemptions should be made for teams not scheduled on Community park fields. Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -4- July 18, 1983 D. Goals and Policies Lambert pointed out that some additions and changes have been made to the original document, but the format is basically the same. This is a rough draft copy and Staff welcomes comments and/or changes. Jessen made the following suggestions: - page 1, I.B.2. , clarify "ponding basis". - page 1, I.B.G. , "unnecessary grading" perhaps should be changed to read "restricted grading'. - page 1, II.A.1. , "needs of man" should be more defined to read "needs of residents". - page 5, IV.B.b$e. , Similar meaning, can they be consolidated? Also, IV.B.d. is not shown. - page 5, VI.B.3.h. , Does this mean the same as "q" and "r"? (Lambert said "h" can be omitted) Jessen feels something should be said about grade separated crossing in certain areas. page 6, VI.B.3.s. , Be more direct and say IwH establish public access on lakes", etc. -page 10, X.A.1. , After word "Advisory" add "Committee". Breitenstein said she would be interested to see how residents feel about opening up Community Center memberships to non residents. Lambert pointed out that even though there are fewer memberships than last year, there is high useage. He said he would recommend no changes in present policy until after the second full year--then the results can be evaluated. VI I. NEW BUSINESS A. Riley Lake Parking Problem Lambert referred to Staff Memo dated July 7, 1983 wherein the parking problem at Riley Lake is summarized. The lake has a long history of overcrowded lake use and the present parking situation (can accommodate 15 boat launchers) is bad as many people are parking along County Road 1. Staff is recommending the City consider beginning acquisition of some additional land northof the park (2.2 acres initially) to expand the parking capabilities. This would be an interim overflow parking site until the additional land further to the north is acquired and the park is developed. Jessen feels this might be a short term solution to a long term problem and suggests looking into widening the road and allow parking on one side of the road. ( MOTION: Baker moved to recommend the City pursue LAWCON funds for the purpose of expanding Riley Lake Park parking area as outlined in Staff memo of July 7, 1983. This would be an interim use for 30 additional parking spaces. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried. Minutes - Parks, Recreation approved Natural Resources Commission -5- July 18, 1983 B. 1984 LAWCON GRANT Lambert referred to Staff Memo of July 7, 1983. Action was taken on this item in the above item "Riley Lake Parking Problem". C. Round Lake Parking Lambert reviewed Staffs suggestion to expand parking capabilities at { Round Lake Park by 60 cars which would handle about 90% of the present problem (only very special events or tournaments would cause overflow) . Staff is suggesting making additional parking out of the free skating rink (asphalt, 40 spaces) and to expand the lot north of the tennis courts (20 spaces) . MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of expanding Round Lake ar J.ng capabilities per Staff recommendations in Memo of July 13, 1983. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary