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Parks and Recreation - 03/21/1983 _ I 1983 MARCH 7 , 21 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MARCH 7, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Marge: Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 21, 1983 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS �._ A. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 a. American Baptist Homes 8:00 b. Westwood Industrial Park 8:20 C. Muriel Humphrey Residence 8:25 2. Council Report of March 1, 1983 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:30 A. Staring Lake Park Trail Easement Agreement VII. NEW BUSINESS 8:35 A. Review of Proposed Ordinance on Commercial Stables 8:40 B. Removal of Barn on Tax Forfeited Propert 8:45 VIII. ADJOURNMENT I l. r _ ;APPROVED 14INUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MARCH 7, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Jesse Schwartz Coil-1�1ISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS: Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. , by Chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Agenda as published. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. 11INUTES OF FEBRUARY 22, 1983 MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the Minutes of February 22, 1983 as published. Brietenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS - None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. American Baptist Homes - Deferred until architect arrives. b. Westwood Industrial Park - Deferred until Dick Putnam arrives. C. Muriel Humphrey Residence MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend that cash park fees be applied Lo this project. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. C a. 'American Baptist domes Tom Heiberg apologized for not being present at .last meeting. A contuunication problem prevented him from being there. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- March 7, 1983 Heiberg introduced himself as Owner of Land Sake, Inc. and Curley Roberts, with Robert Architects. Heiberg explained that American Baptist Homes currently owns a residential structure on the south side of Idlewild Lake. The organization has entered into a development contract with Land Sake, Inc. , so they will be the initial owner/occupant in the proposed Idlewild Office Center. Thus, their existing lot was added to the total property proposed for development by the proponent. In contrast to the original development proposal , Heiberg said the current plan shows fewer structures with a total square footage of approximately 40,000 s.f. (as opposed to 32,000 s.f. in the first plan) . Kingrey said he feels the plan shows too much "building" space and feels the proposal will take the view and use of the lake away from the City. Jessen said he feels the plan shows an abundance of building and parking lots. Ike said he'd like to see d continuous public pathway around the lake (City would request public trail easement from developer) , feeling this would be an attraction to surrounding businesses. ...7 Lambert said Staff concerns with this project include: 1) lack of pedestrian system; 2) large amount of impervious surface; 3) erosion control . Kingrey asked whether this Commission should be specific in landscaping recommendations. Lambert said yes--the Commission might offer direction in suggesting hedges instead of overstory trees along the parking lots to permit a view of the lake. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the Idlewild Office Center proposal in accordance with Community Services Staff recommendations and in addition the inclusion of a landscape reviow opportunity by Staff early in the planning process. Also, it is rccomliended the proponent include a .public pedestrian walkway along the lake from one end of the project to the other which will eventually surround the lake and be tied to future development. Raker seconded the motion. DISCUSSION: Heiberg said, from the standpoint of the condominium association, he would like to see the pathway be private instead Of public. He feels confident people would not be prevented from using the path if it is private. Kingrey said he appreciates Heiberg's concern, but unless the path } is public, i.he oWIM"S would only have to put up a "Private" sign thus pi•eventilIg the public from trespassing. r Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -3- March 7, 1983 Gonyea and Friederichs both said they don't see the need for a path around the lake--that the owners of the property should have control of how the property is used. Baker and Jessen both said they feel this area is part of the gateway to the Major Center Area and should not be strictly private. Jessen added that he feels reasonably sure Rosemount Engineering would be in favor of putting a pathway around their portion of the lake at some future time. MOTION VOTE: The vote was 4 in favor of the motion, 2 opposed Gonyea and Friederichs). b. Westwood Industrial Park Dick Putnam was present on behalf of the proponent, Bury & Carlson, Inc. He located the project adjacent to County Road #67, west of St. John's Woods, north of Nine Mile Creek Floodplain and Kings Forest. Putnam said the developer is requesting to amend the PUD District and Zoning of the Original Westwood Industrial Park to: 1) Allow construction of buildings restricted only by the requirements of the I-2 Zoning District, not the former ( Development Plan 2) Revision of the grading plan 3) Change of status of the Open Space Outlots in order to allow conveyance to the City. Putnam said, due to the tremendous cost factor, he is proposing using seeding and rulching the east slope instead of using a wood fiber blanket. Arteka, the landscape firm for this project, assured him the slope can be retained by seeding and mulching. Kingrey said lie would not like to see the trees lost on the east slope simply because the wood fiber blanket is so expensive . He suggested Arteka talk to Staff and convince them they can protect the slope by another method. Jessen suggested this Commission not be specific on erosion control techniques to be used, but rather leave it up to the proponent and Staff. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of Westwood Industrial Park as reconunenclod in the February 25, 1983 Staff report. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. i I 1 r Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved � Natural Resources Commission -4- March 7, 1983 2. Council Report of March 1, 19B3 Lambert reported the following: - Council approved Eden Prairie Marching Band request of a flag and help with promotion but no funds. - Approved Adult Open Skatefrom 7-10 p.m. and will re-evaluate in June. - Lambert updated the Commission on Lou Nanne's (Northstars) proposal to the City for an ice facility and ice time. VI. OLD IUSINESS A. St<irinq Lake Park Trail Easement Agreement y Lambert presented the Draft Easement Agreement between Joint School District 237 and the City of Eden Prairie for the Staring Lake Park Trail . MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the Staring Lake Park Trail Easement as drawn with the equestrian trail on the lake side of the pedestrian trail . He suggests staff investigate putting a second 10-year renewal clause into the agreement. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously i NEb) BUSINESS A. Review of Proposed Ordinance on Commerical Stables Lambert presented this as an information item. Jessen commented that on page 2, Item D, the handling of waste materials did not seem environmentally sound. Lambert said the idea was that there should be some language in the ordinance so manure isn't put near direct drainage runoff. He noted that at the other City stable, it was required to be stored under a roof. WION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of the Proposed Ordinance on Commercial Stables per Staff report except Item D be reviewed and require manure be stored in enclosed area. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Removal of Barn on Tax Forfeited Propert MoTI ON: Ki ngrey moved to recommend the barn be sold for salvage or rai ed. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII. ADJOURNMRIT ) The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m. RES EcTrULL1' SUBMITTED, Carrie Tiet7. Record i nn Secret,11•y r _ AGENDA r EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION l MONDAY, MARCH 21, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF MARCH 7, 1983 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS 1. Reports of Commissioners - none 2. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 a. Pax Christi Church 7:50 b. Willow Bend 8:15 C. GSB Investments - Oak Park Business Center 8:25 2. 1982 Annual Report 8:40 3. North Star Update 8:45 4. March 12 Council Meeting Action VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS 8:50 A. April 4, 1983 Meeting 8:55 VIII. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES EDEN_ PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MARCH 21 , 1983 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Jesse Schwartz, Raiford Baker, Jerry Kingrey, Gary Gonyea, Marge Friederichs COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Marty Jessen � . I COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Acting Chairperson, Jerry Kingrey. II, APPROVAL OF AGENDA Add to Agenda under New Business at C. Request for basketball court for Prairie East, MOTION: Friederichs moved to approve the Agenda as published with the above addition. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III, MINUTES OF MARCH 7, 1983 Kingrey amended the motion on Page 4 under VI. OLD BUSINESS to read as follows: "Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the Staring Lake Park Trail Easement as drawn, with the equestrian trail on the lake side of the pedestrian trail . He suggest ,.." MOTION: Baker moved to approve the Minutes of March 7, 1983 as published wit fi the above addition. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS - None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None B, Reports of Staff - 1 . Development Proposals A. Pax Christi Church - Kingrey suggested on page 4 of the Staff Report under it one the following words be added: "Proponent must meet FAA standards." Also, under item four the following words be added: —due to insufficent study." r Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved March 21 ,1983 Natural Resources Commission -2- c Kingrey asked Pat Dady, who was representing the Church,if the open space north of the church was an interim use for the land and Dady replied that the intent was to always use the land for religious purposes. MOTION: Baker moved to accept the proposal for Pax Christi hurch as written by staff. Schwartz seconded and it carried unanimously. B. Willow Bend - This proposal was first submitted as a duplex development and now being presented as single family dwellings. Representatives present were Dick Krier and Duane Diedrich. Krier presented the proposal and stated the developer was willing to give more property for park purposes than required by the City of Eden Prairie. This was not a PUD and therefore the developer was asking for nothing unique in this subdivision; and since the trail system was serving more than just the property concerned but all persons in the community, they were asking for a reduction in the cash park fees.if the subdivision did actually put in this pathway for pedestrians. The developer feels this cash park fee would be an added burden to the families in 'this development. Lambert said that the trail system does benefit more than just this property, as does every other sidewalk or piece of trailway in the system and that it was no different than what the City has done since it has committed to putting in trails. Whenever a new development goes in either a sidewalk or an eight-foot bikeway is required. This is also true where new streets are required. This is- part of our transportation system and an intricate part of the Eden Prairie park system plan. Kingrey recommended that this pathway along the south side of County Road 60 was not necessary and that the commission should support that recommendation. Krier suggested that if it was indeed part of the transportation system it should be charged equally to both sides of the road as though it were a street. MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of the W117ow Bend proposal in accordance with Community Services Staff recommendations. Baker seconded the motion. The motion was 4 in favor and 1 opposed (Kingrey). Motion carried. C. GSB Investments - Oak Park Business Center - Lambert presented the proposal to the commission. Kingrey commended the architect on the care taken with the site to preserve the mature oaks, maples and evergreens located throughout. The Commission members agreed that the developer did an outstanding job in preserving significant vegetation on the site. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & tapproved Natural Resources Commission -3- March 21 , 1983 MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of the Oak Park Business Center Development Proposal in accordance with the Community Services Staff recommendations. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. It was suggested to Lambert that items for future Agendas for the commission would be to look at re-assessiong trails and the review the policy on use of cash park fees. Baker suggested that an overview of adjacent property would be helpful to commission members. 2. 1982 Annual Report Report was presented to commission but no action was necessary. 3. North Star Update Lambert presented the proposal being considered and outlined n in his memorandum of March 17, 1983. I MOTION: Gonyea moved approval of negotiation terms and conditions as outlined in the March 17th memo. Kingrey seconded and the motion carried unanimously. 4. March 12 Council Meeting Action a. Idlewild Office Center was continued to April 19. b. North Star Proposal will renegotiate and continue to negotiate. c. Cummins Grill House architect selection and update. Council allowed $20,000 for restoration of the Grill House. d. Eden Prairie Athletic Association request for a membership to give away was approved. e. Approved language in the park trail agreement with Vo-Tech with changes recommended by City attorney. VI. OLD BUSINESS - none VII. NEW BUSINESS A. April 4, 1983 Meeting - Schwartz moved to cancel the April 4th meeting and reschedule it if necessary. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Prairie East Park Basketball Court - Jerome Mott, Citizen, wrote to City requesting the basketball court. Minutes - Parks, Recreation 8 iapproved March 21 , 1983 Natural Resources Commission -4- MOTION: Baker moved to put the request on the list of requests for t e end of the year and maybe fit into next year's budget. Schwartz seconded the motion. All voted aye. Motion carried. Schwartz moved to amend motion to include petition requesting, for commission consideration, letter in the fall when monies would be available. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Lambert was instructed to write to Mott and keep him informed and also to ask him to get. petition from the neighborhood. VIII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m, RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Shirley Hanson Acting Recording Secretary i I � I