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Parks and Recreation - 01/17/1983 r 1983 JANUARY 17 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE r AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JANUARY 17, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL ` COMMISSION STAFF: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA b III . APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 20, 1982 MINUTES IV. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS 7;35 A. Eden Prairie Marching Band - continued from Dec. 6, 1982 V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none t, B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:45 a. Towers Addition 8:10 b. Rymerland Camp 8:20 2. North Star Professional Hockey Organization Proposal 8:25 3. Snowdrifters Snowmobile Club Request 8:30 4. Council Report of January 3, 1983 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:35 A. HCPRD 5 Year Plan - continued from Dec. 6, 1982 8:40 B. HCPRD Plan Recommendations for Anderson Lakes Regional Park 8:45 C. Indian Road (trail status) 8:50 D. Report on Riding Arena Costs and Location VII . NEW BUSINESS 8:55 A. Report on Edenvale Park Dedication Commitments l_ 9:10 VIII . ADJOURNMENT r APPROVED MINUTES ` EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JANUARY 17, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Marge Friederichs, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Raiford Baker, Gary Gonyea COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS: Mark Weber, E.P. News I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Lambert added Item V.B.5. - Reschedule Opening of Staring Lake Community Park. MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend approval of the Agenda as amended. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 20, 1983 MINUTES MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend approval of the Minutes as published. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Eden Prairie Marching Band - continued from December 6, 1982 Lambert checked with the City attorney on this matter and reported the State law says it is illegal to give funding to any organization that is not under the direct control of the City. In light of this finding, the City would not be able to give the eescendo's of Eden Prairie the $200 they requested at the last meeting. Kingrey asked that the City still investigate the possibility of the City setting up a promotional fund. This fund would be created expressly for promoting Eden Prairie through such organizations as the Crescendo's and the Eden Prairie Marching Band. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend to the Council the City investigate creating an "Eden Prairie Promotional Fund" for the specific purpose of promoting the City in such a way seen fit by authorized person or persons. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. t DISCUSSION: Jessen and Friederichs expressed concern that this issue may be best handled outside the Parks and Recreation Commission. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- January 17, 1983 V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Towers Addition Mr. Carmody was present to request PUD review for a medium density residential and single family, rezoning from Rural to R.M 6.5 for 8 quads and from Rural to R.13.5 for 2 single lots and prelim- inary plat review of 6.75 acres for 8 quadraminiums and 2 single family lots. The property is East of Mitchell Road, north b of Carmody Drive. Mr. Carmody briefly reviewed the grading and site plans. Lambert noted that there are really no park issues with this proposal but just wanted this Commission to be aware of the project. MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend to the Council approval of this Towers Addition per planning Staff reports. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Rymerland Camp Mr. Milt Quam was present on behalf of Rymerland Camp Third Addition. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend to the Council approval of Rymerland Camp as outlined in Staff report of January 13, 1983. Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. North Star Professional Hockey Organization Proposal Lambert reviewed a verbal interest by the North Stars in the Eden Prairie Community Center as their first choice for constructing locker rooms, a training room, equipment storage area, small office and possible laundry area (west side of the Center) and buying ice time for training camp and seasonal practice. City staff has requested the North Stars provide in writing a proposal reflecting their interest. All Commissioners expressed positive interest in this proposal feeling it would be an asset to the community and support the idea. ( Lambert said Staff is considering non prime time rates if the North Stars use our facility. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -3- January 17, 1983 I 3. Snowdrifters Snowmobile Club Request MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Resolution No. 83-11 approving construction and maintenance of a public snowmobile trail within the City of Eden Prairie. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 4. Council Report of January 3, 1983 Lambert said there were no Parks issues at the meeting. 5. Reschedule Opening of Staring Lake Community Park Lambert reported the opening of the Staring Lake Park has been rescheduled for Friday, January 28, 1983, from 7-10 p.m. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. HCPRD 5 Year Plan - continued from Dec. 6, 1982 Lambert asked Commission members to comment on the Plan as it goes to the Council January 18, 1983. Jessen asked for a review of the Anderson Lakes area. Lambert said the Park Reserve District complied with the City's request to move the parking lot to the east in the location of Amsden Way and Anderson Lakes Parkway. However, the Board support District Staff in retaining the walking path around the south lake. Also canoeing on the south lake will only be led by interpretive naturalists. Also the name of the Regional Park is open for suggestions--Bloomington feels it should be called "Bloomington Regional Park Reserve", but does not feel that will be the final decision. B. HCPRD Plan Recommendations for Anderson Lakes Regional Park j There were no further recommendations for the Park by Commissioners. C. Indian Road (trail status) Lambert reported that the City Attorney indicated cities cannot lose road right-of-way through adverse possession; however, he agreed to draft a letter to Sever Peterson requesting his signature on a letter indicating he (Peterson) is aware that the road is closed temporarily and that it is a designated snowmobile trail and equestrian trail and will be developed as such in the future. This letter will be prepared and sent to Mr. Peterson within the near future. C i t i Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved ( Natural Resources Commission -4- January 17, 1983 i D. Report on Riding Arena Costs and Location Lambert reported that Staff questions whether the requested MAC Flying Cloud Field location is appropriate for a riding arena. Staff suggests looking at MAC property adjacent to Spring Road for the construction of a riding arena. Staff investigated cost estimates for construction, assuming there would be no grading involved, and they would be about $6,000 for the arena and an additional $2,000-3,000 for a gravel parking lot depending on the size required. Mike Pauling was present for the second half of this discussion and seemed in favor of the suggested location. He will report to his organization on location, price and get a feeling for their commitment j of both time and money on this issue. Lambert said staff will not approach MAC until the City is sure the equestrian organization is serious about plans for an arena. Pauling asked what kind of costs are involved in leasing property from MAC. Lambert said the present rate is $5.00-$10.00/acre/year but the City has yet to be billed. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Report on Edenvale Park Dedication Commitments Lambert referred to Staff Memo of January 13, 1983 reviewing the history of Edenvale PUD commitments. In short, the City of Eden Prairie has not charged cash park fees on any parcels within Edenvale from 1970 through 1982, because Edenvale was to dedicate approximately 70.6 acres of parkland. Edenvale delivered deeds to some of the ;parcels in 1978; however, the City couldn't file the deeds without paying back taxes and assessments. The City has waived fees on Eden Edenvale since 1970. Lambert added the City attorney is reviewing the entire situation and will report to the Council January 18, 1983. Jessen suggested the City should look into sueing Edenvale for back taxes and assessments. MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend to the Council that this Commission supports Staff' s position to begin charging cash park fees on all remaining undeveloped parcels in Edenvale that have been platted and zoned as those parcels would also generate nearly $150,000 in park fees. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. DISCUSSION: Schwartz questioned that with all the money Edenvale owes the City, why would the City even consider paying them $40,000 for a parcel (Equitable is requesting this of a 2 acre site for future road right of way.). "1 Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -5- January 17, 1983 Jessen asked that the City make sure the two acre site Equitable is requesting payment for has a valid appraisal . VIII. ADJOURNMENT Jessen moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 p.m. Schwartz seconded the motion. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary i C.