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Parks and Recreation - 06/21/1982 1982 JUNE 7 , 21 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE 14 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JUNE 7, 1982 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF MAY 17, 1982 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Resignation of Austin Boulay $ Appointment of Gar), Gonyea V. RECOD9NENDATIONS AND REPORTS C_ A. Reports of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 8:35 a. Baypoint Manor Apartments 8.25 b. Bryant Lake Condominiums I C. Lee Data Center 8:45 2. Park Maintenance Projects 8:50 3. Council Report - May 18 and June 1 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:55 A. Bryant Lake Park Master Plan HCPRD Staff 9:30 B. Gold Medal Award - Slide Presentation 9:50 C. CIP Update VII. NEW BUSINESS C 9:55 A. Tax Forfeited Lands 10:00 B. Removal of Webster House 10:0S Vill. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JUNE 7, 1982 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey (8:45 P.M.) , Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Marty Jessen COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS: Mark Weber, E. P. News I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:50 P.M. by Chairperson, Richard Anderson. Ii. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Lambert added the following: IV.B. Letter Fairview Southdale IV.C. Board and Commission Tour Anderson added the following: V.A.1. Joint Meeting - Chanhassen and Shorewood MOTIOPl: Schwartz moved to recommend approval of the Agenda as amended. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF MAY 17, 1982 MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of the Play 17, 1982 Minutes as published. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Resignation of Austin Boulay & Appointment of Gary Gonyea Lambert reported that Austin Boulay is resigning from the Commission due to illness and introduced Gary Gonyea who was appointed by the Council to serve out the three year term of Boulay that started last March. Anderson offered Gonyea a warm welcome. B. Letter, Fairview Southdale Lambert reported that he received a letter from Fairview Southdale where they expressed interest in installing an exercise course at i Round Lake Park. Lambert said the High School is interested in a joint project with the City and he has requested the High School I . Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- June 7, 1982 let him know what equipment they are interested in. Lambert said he has mixed feelings about these courses in this part of the country, but if the High School is interested in using it perhaps it would be worthwhile. The only cost to the City would be installation--Fairview Southdale pays for the rest. Friederichs asked what a Vista Course. Lambert said it usually consists of 10 to 20 stations along a jogging path for different types of exercises. He said they are very popular in the southwest. C. Board and Commission Tour Lambert said he would like names of Commission members who can attend and participate in the MRPA Workshop in Eden Prairie on June 24-25. Jessen has expressed interest to date. V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners 1. Joint Meeting - Chanhassen and Shorewood Anderson gave a brief report of the trails meeting with Chanhassen and Shorewood. He said Chanhassen is interested in connecting with Eden Prairie's trail system near Riley Lake and Lotus Lake. Minnetonka was not represented at the meeting but is also interested in discussing the Lotus Lake connection. Anderson said Chanhassen feels there is too much traffic (boats) on Lake Riley. They don't presently have any suggestions on how to control this problem but Anderson suggested perhaps the Council appoint a study force to look into this problem. B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Baypoint Manor Apartments Lambert introduced Dick Smith with Jim Miller Construction Co. to review the project. Mr. Smith said G & D Enterprises is requesting PUD Development plan rezoning and preliminary plat approval from Rural to RM2.5. The property is located South of Anderson Lakes Parkway, north of Neill Lake- just west of the Preserve Recreation Area. Mr. Smith said the developer is proposing 152 multi-family residential units on the 12.2 acre site. They plan-to dedicate 165,000 sq. ft. for park and plan to put up a performance bond for completion of a pathway through the site. t Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -3- June 7, 1982 'i i Lambert pointed out the two issues pertinent to this Commission: - trails - this is the last large piece of unzoned property left for the Preserve to develop, so the City should obtain a date certain when all the trail commitments by the Preserve will be completed and a bond that would cover the costs of their commitments through that date should be provided with the understanding that if the commitments aren't met by the specified date, the City will cash the bond and complete the projects. - totlot - Staff recommends a structure be built on the building site and dedicated to the Homeowner's Association. Anderson noted that the park and trail dedications of this project are to the Preserve Homeowner's Association and not to the City. 1 Mr. Smith said the developer favors the pool area for the location of a totlot but cannot assure exact placement at this time. Lambert said Staff is in agreement with the developer's suggested location of the totlot. MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Baypoint Manor Apartments per Staff, report. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Bryant Lake Condominiums Lambert introduced John Uban to give a presentation of the project. Uban said the developer, Metram Properties Co. , is requesting the Comprehensive Guide Plan Change PUD Concept Plan Approval , rezoning and preliminary plat approval . He located the 65 acre project north of Bryant Lake, west of Bryant Lake Park. The proposal is for 218 condominium units and 3 single family lots. Uban said the developer is proposing 40 acres (2/3 of site) for parkland. The 40 acres of proposed parkland is the portion of the site directly adjacent to Bryant Lake, and the northern area of the site would be the condominium location. Uban said there are a few unique and historic outbuildings located near the lake and those buildings would be included in the park dedication. Uban reviewed the site plan and renderings of the proposed buildings. He noted the developer plans to incorporate a trail system would connect to the City's system. Lambert said Staff feels this is a good proposal and appears advantageous to everyone involved. The interitions are to sell the park property to the Hennepin County Park Reserve District for development of Bryant Lake Park. i Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -4- June 7, 1982 MOTION: Schwartz moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Bryant Lake Condominiums per Staff recommendation. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. DISCUSSION: Anderson commended the developer and planner on a very f ine proposal . c. Lee Data Center Lambert reported that there is no representative from the developer at this meeting. _ Anderson suggested continuing this proposal until a representative is present to speak to concerns regarding this project. 2. Park Maintenance Projects Lambert said Staff has provided the Council , this Commission and presidents of each of the Athletic Associations a copy of the park maintenance project list in order to help understand why all of the requested projects aren't completed as yet. This is an information item only. 3. Council Report - May 18 and June 1 At the May 18 meeting there were no issues directly regarding this Commission. June 1, 1982 Meeting: - Approved acquisition of tax forfeited lands per Resolution 82-127. - Approved first reading of Ordinance 82-13 amending the Park Use Ordinance (regarding vendors in parks) . - Appointed Gary Gonyea to this Commission. - Approved updated Five Year Capital Improvement Program. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Bryant Lake Park Master Plan - HCPRD Staff Gregg Mack (Hennepin County Park Reserve District HCPRD) gave a brief history and introduction to the Park Master Plan. He said this Master Plan will go before the Eden Prairie City Council on June 15, 1982. He pointed out that the Metropolitan Council ultimately gives final approval to the plan. Mack introduced Don King (Senior Landscape Architect) and Bruce Mantel (Landscape Architect assigned to project) from HCPRD. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -5- June 7, 1982 C Mantel presented the park plan. The park is located on the NE portion of Bryant Lake. The approved park boundaries include 228 acres-- to date the HCPRD has acquired 157 acres. Mantel said a good portion o-F the site is in excess of ,a 10% slope with elevations ranging from 990 feet to 850 feet, which translates to roughly a 150 foot drop. 16% of the total area is in forest. Mantel reviewed each of the site maps. The proposed park development consists of 50 acres developed for intensive recreation, 4 miles of bike trails, 31 miles of horse trails and 1 mile of paved roads. The park also includes 2 group overnight camping sites. This park will have an equestrian facility (present stable and pasture area) emphasizing public use such as supervised riding trails, hay rides, grooming instruction, etc. , in conjunction with the VoTech. The pasture area will be expanded which will allow more acres per horse than the present situation. Mantel said the total parking spaces in the park will be about 1,000 cars which includes 20 car/trailer spaces near the public boat access. Mack added it is planned the park will be open from 6:00 a.m. to sunset ( on weekends and holidays. Weekdays from 7:00 a.m. to sunset. Lambert asked for a more detailed explanation of the group overnight camping areas. Mack said at the April 28, 1982 meeting with property owners, the majority were opposed to overnight use but supported day use. He said open air shelters will be provided, picnic tables, fire rings, water pumps, etc. , but no structures are proposed. He emphasized that this will be a controlled camping situation and advance reservations will be required. Anderson asked if cross country skiing will be provided. Also, he asked what the opening dates of the park area. Mack responded that there will be only informal cross country skiing--no groomed trails. He said an option might be to make an agreement with the equestrian center that the horse trails be available to other recreational groups. Mack said the park will be open year round. The intention was for the park to be open for fishing season this year but the roads were not passable due to wet, muddy conditions. Resident John Golle, 7039 Willow Creek Road said he is pleased with the time and effort that has gone in to the park plan. He expressed two concerns: 1. boat traffic--20 boats is too many, any more than 5 or 6 is very dangerous. �. 2. overnight camping--against this type of camping, fears it will be too noisy for neighbors. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -6- June 7, 1982 C- Anderson said the City has control over the use of the water surface and asked the homeowners for suggestions that everyone can live with regarding boat use. Resident H. M. Larson, 7011 Willow Creek Road, said years ago the Holaseks allowed picnics and swimming on their property and it was very noisy for residents around the lake. Resident Bob Fransen, 6851 Beach Road, said he is very opposed to overnight camping due to noise. Resident Mark Omally, Beach Road, commended HCPRD on the plan. He shares the other residents concern for overnight camping. He feels 20 parking places for car trailers at the boat launch seems workable. Resident Jan Garfield, Golden Ridge Road, said she would appreciate more consideration given to omit overnight camping. She said noise carries so readily across the lake and suggested perhaps day camping only. Resident Wally Cruz, 7042 Willow Creek Road also expressed objection to overnight camping due to noise. John Uban (Metram Properties, Bryant Lake Condominiums) said, as prospective neighbors, his client is not in favor of overnight camping in the northern location. He feels the camping could be located in a more interior, protected portion of the park. Resident Curt Botcoe, 7036 Willow Creek Road, said he is opposed to overnight camping and feels the park is opening too early in the morning. John Golle said he is in favor of horses in the park but a large horse operation scares him. Mack said the equestrian operation will be a very controlled operation and even though the programming is being expanded, the increase in numbers of horses will not be that great. Kingrey requested HCPRD take another look at the southern camping site to see if it couldn't be moved away from the residential areas. John Golle asked that the County use reason and constraint as they plan the park. He feels it better to start small and expand if there is a need. MOTION: Gary Gonyea moved to recommend to the Council approval of the Bryant Lake Park Master Plan as is, with the exception of no overnight camping. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimoL-sly. DISCUSSION: Lambert said Staff would support this motion. This reco— mmenaation goes to the City Council but he asked people to realize that the Council 's recommendation is only a recommendation to the Metro Council as they make the ultimate decision. He added that a 200 acre •j Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -7- June 7, 1982 park such as this is the minimum size for overnight camping, and due to the shape of the park it is not good for this use. Perhaps in the future, if other campsites are full and there is still a demand, there could be reconsideration of overnight camping in the central part.of the park. B. Gold Medal Award - Slide Presentation Lambert said he would give the slide presentation after adjournment of this meeting. C. CIP Update Lambert referred this as an information item only. VII. NEW BUSINESS 1 A. Tax Forfeited Lands Information item, no action required. B. Removal of Webster House NOTION: Schwartz moved to recommend to the Council approval to remove tt a 14ebster House per Staff recommendation. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Schwartz moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:20 p.m. Kingrey seconded the motion. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary i f 1 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL 'RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JUNE 21 1982 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III . MINUTES OF JUNE 7, 1982 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 a. Lee Data 7:55 b. Ridgewood West Two 8:20 c. Eden Prairie Partnership 8:45 d. Edenvale 16th 9:00 e. Edenvale 9th 9:15 2. Council Report of June 15, 1982 VI . OLD BUSINESS 9:20 A. 1983 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Application Preliminary Ranking 9:25 B. Fairview Southdale Hospital Proposed Donation of Vita Course VII . NEW BUSINESS f 9:30 A. Cancel Meeting of July 5, 1982 l 9:35 B. Dedication Plaque for Community Center 9:40 VIII . ADJOURNMENT l APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JUNE 21, 1982 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey i COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:32 P.M. , by Acting Chairperson, Jerry Kingrey. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Friederichs recommended approval of the Agenda as published. 3essen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF JUNE 7, 1982 MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of the Minutes of June 7, 1982, as published. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried, Jessen abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS - None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Lee Data Lambert introduced John McKenzie from Rauenhorst to give a presentation of the Lee Data Center proposal . McKenzie said the developer is requesting PUD Concept Approval for industrial and private park and floodplain uses. Rezoning from RM 2.5 to I-5 for approximately 20 acres. Preliminary plat approval of one lot and three outlots. The project is located east of Highway 169/212, south of Flying Cloud Drive. ( McKenzie said 2,000 s.f. of office and light manufacturing is proposed and Lee Data, presently located in Eden Prairie, will be a tenant. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- June 21, 1982 Lambert suggested the Commission consider the following regarding this project: i - sidewalk along Flying Cloud Drive extension - grading - what is being preserved - land use Lambert added that the Staff is satisfied with office industrial land use due to surrounding uses, and Staff feels the developer has retained as much as they can of the natural amenities considering the industrial use. MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend approval of Lee Data Center per Staff recommendations. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Ridgewood West Two (This item was delayed pending arrival of Dick Krier from Westwood Engineering. Krier did not show up so Tom Boyce from Westwood reviewed the project.) The proponent, Centex Homes Midwest, Inc. , is requesting Comprehensive Guide Plan change from low density residential to medium density residential for approximately 64 acres. PUD concept approval for 168 small lot single family detached units and 168 condominiums and preliminary platting for 57 single family lots. The property is located east of Mitchell Rd. , north of Research Rd. and west of Purgatory Creek. Boyce said they are proposing to take 64 acres in the southwest part of the property adjacent to single family homes and replat into cluster homes and condominium units. Boyce said there will be two Homeowner's Associations; one representing the condominium owners and the other the cluster home owners. He added the cluster homes are planned to range in price from $65,000 to $75,000. Lambert suggested that the proposed southern tot lot is too small and the developer should consider investin more in the development of the mini park north of Cumberland Road ?2 acres). Lambert also added that Staff feels this is a well planned development with consistent architectural style. MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend approval of Ridgewood West Two per Staff report. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. i I Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -3- June 21, 1982 c. Eden Prairie Partnership Lambert introduced Jeff Martin from Howard Dahlgren Associates to give a presentation of this proposal . Martin said the developer, Undestad Investment Co. , is requesting PUD Concept approval for 32 acres of industrial , preliminary plat approval for 6 industrial lots & 3 outlots and rezoning of 5.5 acres from Rural to I-2 Park. The project is located North of Ponderosa Hills Addition, west of Baker Road, south of 62 Crosstown and east of the Chicago Northwestern Railroad. Martin said there is heavy industrial to the north of this site and planned single family residential to the south. He said the Planning Commission approved upgrading the cul-de-sac into the site but surrounding developers would like to see the east/west collector go through. This through road would tie into Edenvale Boulevard. Martin said the developer plans to heavily berm the area adjacent to the single family residential to the south. Much of the oak woodlands in this area will be retained. (250' buffer is planned) Martin said, due to recent legislation, the developer feels cash park fees are not necessary in this case. Kingrey commended the planner on the time they spent with the neighboring residents. They held many meetings with the residents and Kingrey said he feels the residents ended up quite satisfied with the proposal . Lambert said until the City attorney advises otherwise, he feels cash park fees are applicable to this development--the City has always charged industrial users the fees because they are heavy users of the park systems (trails, athletic teams, picnic grounds, etc.) He added that because the developer has been required to provide a buffer that is not an adequate reason for alleviation of cash park fees. Lambert also noted that the City has required a larger buffer between incompatible land uses that this development proposes in many cases. Lambert said that Staff would like to see the east/west collector become a tb•rough street as it would connect neighborhoods, getting people from the Forest Hills area to Birch Island Park. A through street in this location has been on •the guide plan and trails map. Also, Staff suggests an 8' asphalt bikeway be installed from Baker Road west. Jessen asked if, as a compromise to those not interested in a through street, a trail connection from Canterbury Lane be put in. Lambert said that would not be as direct a course but that it may be a satisfactory compromise. r Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -4- June 21, 1982 Martin said a traffic count of the east/west route shows it as being more of a residential through street than a collector. Kingrey asked what the developer plans to do with Outlot A. Martin said they plan to enhance it as much as possible because it is such an asset to the development. Gonyea asked Lambert if he was familiar with the new legislation regarding Cash Park Fees cited by Martin. Lambert said �he was not aware of any "new" legislation. He will check with the City Attorney. MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend approval of Eden Prairie Partnership proposal without the east/west collector, with cash park fees, and that a trail connection be made south to Canterbu y Lane and east to adjoining property (Centurion Homes). Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. d. Edenvale 16th MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend deferring this item to the next meeting. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. C e. Edenvale 9th MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend deferring this item to the next meeting. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. 1983 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Application Preliminary Ranking Lambert reported the City of Eden Prairie is ranked third out of 21 projects. However, there is no funding cutoff line at this point due to the lack of information on the final amount of grant funds to be available both in the LCMR program and LAWCON. Staff will keep the Commission informed on t4lis situation. B. Fairview Southdale Hospital Proposed Donation of Vita Course i Lambert reported that Fairview Southdale Hospital wants to donate a 10 station Vita Course on the west side of Round Lake. If the City approves, it will be the City' s responsibility to install the course. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of a Vita Course at Round Cake Park as proposed by Fairview Southdale Hospital in coordination with Eden Prairie High School . Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -5- June 21, 1982 VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Cancel Meeting of July 5, 1982 MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission meeting of July 5, 1982 be cancelled. If need be Staff and the Commission chairperson can schedule a makeup meeting. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Dedication Plaque for Community Center MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend support to install a dedication plaque per Smiley Glotter's proposal . Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Friederichs moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 P.M. Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary