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1981
DECEMBER 21
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 21, 1981 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Dick Anderson, chairperson; Austin Boulay,
Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Marty
Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
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7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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III. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 16, 1981
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
l V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
(� A. Reports of Commissioners
NONE
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
7:35 a. CNR Golden Strip
8:00 b. Woodlawn Heights
8:30 2. Park Reforestation Report
8•35 3. Council Report - December 1, 1981
VI. OLD BUSINESS
8:40 A. 1982 Park Projects (continued from Nov. 16)
9:00 B. Fee Structure for Use of School Facilities
9:05 C. City Trail System Plan Update
VII. NEW BUSINESS
9.20 A. Snowmobile Operation on Lakes and in Parks
9:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 21, 1981 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL,
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Dick Anderson, chairperson; Austin Boulay, Marge
Friederichs, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. , by chairperson, Richard
Anderson.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Jessen moved to approve the Agenda as published. Boulay seconded
tie motion and it carried unanimously.
III. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 16,. 1981
MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the Minutes of November 16, 1981, as
published. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
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V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners - None
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
a. CNR Golden Strip
Don Brauer was present on behalf of Condon-Naegele. He said
there will be new owners of the property in January, 1982, but
they have the same development objectives as the present owner.
The developer is requesting PUD Concept Plan Approval for 53.74
acres as Regional Office and Preliminary Plat Approval for
63.79 acres into 9 lots and a public road ROW.
Brauer mentioned that 8 acres of the total acreage will be
open space.
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Kingrey expressed deep concern that the entire wooded area on
this parcel of land be retained. Brauer shares this concern
and does want to preserve a large portion of the woods.
Lambert noted that the Planning Commission approved the proposed
land use designation (office) and the grading plan for the road
system. However, they denied the specific development plan,
as has Lambert.
MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the land use
ec�signation per Planning Staff Report of November 20, 1981,
and approval of preliminary plat for road right of way. Jessen
seconded the motion. The motion carried with a vote of 4-1
(Anderson opposed) .
b. Woodlawn Heights
Gregg Frank of McCombs Knutson was present representing the
proponent, Lyman Lumber Company.
The develop is requesting PUD Development stage approval and
rezoning from Rural to R1 3.5 and RM 6.5 and preliminary plat
approval. The property is located South of Townline Road and
West of Duck Lake Road.
Frank said the developer is willing to provide access to the
park if the park is going to be developed early into Phase I
of construction. Lambert projected that the park will only be
graded at the time of proposed Phase I.
Jessen suggested taking out 3 of the lots that jet out into the
park area. He said the park would flow better and the additional
front footage costs the City would have to pay for the lots might
be a worthwhile investment in the park.
Lambert noted that the Planning Commission recommended removal
of 2 lots across the street from the townhouses because it would
be undesireable to have single family looking into multiple use.
MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend support of the proposal and
recommends approval with the following stipulations: Disagreement
with Planning Commission and recommends leaving 2 lots south of
the townhouses, and instead recommending deletion of 3 or 4 lots
along the park. Further, this may require adding 2 townhouses
or appropriate compensation elsewhere to be negotiated by the
City and the developer. Friederichs seconded the motion and it
carried unanimously.
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2. Park Reforestation Report
Lambert referred to this as an information item.
3. Council Report - December 1, 1981
- Approved Staring Lake Park trail draft easement with Vo Tech.
- Approved construction of information center kiosk at Round
Lake Park.
- Continued City trail system plan and requested changes.
- Considered neighborhood park shelter program and continued to
second meeting in January to discuss alternatives to costs and
construction.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. 1982 Park Projects (continued from Nov. 16)
At the last meeting the Commission requested Staff to look into costs
of a bike trail along Valley View Road from Edenvale Blvd. to Mitchell
Rd. Lambert reported the cost of an 8' bike trail would be approximately
$31,000. Lambert pointed out it would be temporary as is the existing
section of bike trail because Valley View Road will be upgraded in the
future but the City does not know when--perhaps S - 10 years from now.
Anderson suggested the City Council consider upgrading Valley View Rd.
as soon as possible as it is such a dangerous road for pedestrians and
bikers, and it is a major travel route to the school and Round Lake Park.
Jessen asked if the Round Lake warming house is complete? Lambert said
it opened last Saturday and is safe to use even though it will not be
completely finished for about 2 - 3 weeks.
Anderson asked Staff to report on liquor store profits.
MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval per Staff Memo of November
12, 1981. Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Fee Structure for Use of School Facilities
Lambert referred to Staff Memo of December 16, 1981, and the attached r.
letter from Mick Anderson. Staff feels Anderson's recommendation is
a fair one.
Kingrey asked that Staff inform this Commission of the results of this
plan after the first 6 months.
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C. City Trail System Plan Update
Lambert referred to Staff Memo of December 16, 1981, and the attached
map indicating existing and future trails in the City.
Kingrey suggested a trail in the Topview area somewhere in the
Cardinal Creek area on the way to Forest Hills School. Lambert agreed
to a trail in that area.
Anderson said the City should take into consideration possible future
bussing limits changing from 1 to 2 miles. The City is responsible for
providing safe pedestrian routes for children to get to school.
Anderson suggested a trail be extended toward Birch Island Lake from
the Canterbury Rd./ Stratford area.
MOTION: Jessen moved to recommend approval of -the City Trail System
Update with the above revisions. Friederichs seconded the motion and
it carried unanimously.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
CA. Snowmobile Operation on Lakes and in Parks
Lambert cited the City Ordinance and suggested that snowmobiling not
be allowed on any parks, or on Round Lake, Duck Lake and Anderson Lakes
except on designated snowmobile trails.
Friederichs asked why snowmobiling cannot occur in Birch Island Park
as it is allowed on the adjacent lake? She said snowmobilers presently
use the park and the lake and enjoy the area.
Anderson asked if the City should consider banning snowmobiles in Eden
Prairie as other adjacent communities are doing this.
MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of Staff suggestions to
change the Snowmobile Operation Ordinance except delete the part
eliminating snowmobiling in Birch Island Park and Duck Lake.
Friederichs seconded the motion aid it carried unanimously.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Friederichs moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 P.M. Kingrey seconded the
motion.
Respectfully submitted,
Carrie Tietz
Recording Secretary
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