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Parks and Recreation - 08/28/1972 i 1972 AUGUST 14 , 28 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION CCd*=SION MEETING August 14, 1972 7:30 p.m. Eden Prairie Village Hall Present: Marvin Erickson, William Garens, Janet Berkland, Frances Blacklock, John Cosmano; Marty Jessen, Park and Recreation Director, Reed Olson, Asst. Director, Ed Handler, part-time staff member, from Urban Corps. Others: ffi0.1 Bonner, The Preserve; Bob Gold and Ed Sorgass, Henn. Cty Park Reserve District. Absent: Terry Fields, Richard Anderson, Dean Holasek, Bob Johnson, Marjorie O'Rran The meeting was called to order by Marvin Anderson, chairman. I. Minutes M/Garens, S/Berkland that the minutesof July 10 be approved with two changes: II H - addition "A recommendation for implementation will follow after staff coordination." and III A - correction - the ' asking price is $1.2 million rather than $1.5 million. Carried. II. Communications A. NRPA Jessen has been appointed chairman of the Minnesota committee on recruitment of new members. E.P. Pk. and Rea. Commission members are members of NRPA . The national organization has gone through a reorganization with new fees and is now out of the financial hole. III. Recommendations & Reports A. Henn. Cty. Bob Gold presented a concept for a 290-:mile trail system in Trail Plan Hennepin County linking county parks, following streams and valleys, utility easements, the Luce Line and traila already established. It would be multiple-use, the only one in the country if it mater- ializes. Snowmobiling (in less developed part of county), snowshoe- ing, ski touring in winter, bicycling, horseback riding and hiking in summer. The trails would be broad, min. width of 150-200 feet so uses such as ski touring and snowmobIIing could be separated. Funding - He said the BOR would like to see this developed so federd funding would probably be available. The DNR has $2 million from snowmobile permits that should go back to the counties - about $50,000 to Hennepin County. HCPR has no funds and no further staff time. They would have to go to the legislature for clarification of their role. Medina has passed #esolution sent to the League of Municipalities stating that the municipality should have the prime responsibility for developing trails with the HCPR District doing the planning, coordinating and getting state and federal financing. Gold is presenting the trail idea to municipalties throughout Hennepin County and asked E.P. to appoint a trails coordinator to meet and work with those from other commurities. No formal action was requested at this meeting. Jessen sAd he has suggested to the Metro Council Open Space Ccam:i.ttee that the concept for a trail system should be bigger than just Hennepin County -- that a wheelage tax on users could be charged to develop a system metro wide. He sees a problem arising from asking for federal funds p- it will take money away from funds available for park land acquisition and he feels that should come first. r E.P. Pk. and Rea. Commission Mtg. Aug. 14, 1972 Page 2 III. A. Summer Roe. (Report on file) Reed Olson went through the report in which C Final Report he summarized what had been done this summer in each area of the recreation program; his room endations for next year; and the financial report for each activity. The fknal result of all activities was a minus $60, considered very good tV the commission since the primary purpose is to provide a good recreation program and not to make money. Jessen complimented Olson on his work. C. "Landscaping" Ed Handler presented the amendment to Ordinance No. 135 which amendment to he helped draw up after checking several ordinances including Zoning Ord. Edina, St. Louis Park and the model from League of Municipalities. The ordinance applies to site plans, not single lots. It includes a strong performance bond covering tpw growing seasons which assures the buyer that what is promised in landscaping will be done. M/Berkla.nd, S/Garens that the Park and Recreation Commission recotim end to the Council that it approve the "Landscaping" amend- ment to Zoning Ordinance No. 135• Carried. (Ordinance on file) D."Floodplain" Jessen discussed this first draft of a floodplairArdinanae (copy Ordinance on file). We will continue to have interim reports on it as more items are included such as steep slopes and wooded knolls. A map will be developed to detail the areas involved. The ordinance as presented reflects models from the League of Municipalities, Nine Mile Creek Watershed, drafted by Haik, the DNR and several municipal- ities, with changes to make it fit Eden Prairie. Such an ordinance is required by state law passed by the last legislature. Bob ( Heinrich. the new village manager will have the responsibility of `�. seeing it through to completion. One of the areas to be clarified will be the compensation of landowners for floodplain acquisition. Jessen pointed out the need for funding -- this purpose is for preservation, esthetics, recharge, flood control eta., not primarily recreation. i= He feels it could be handled by Lawoon and HUD in a separate division and administered by the state. If thrown into the same bag as park acquisition it will suffer. E. Anderson Lks. Copies of a letter from Mr. G. M. Carter, Jr. of The Preserve, Park Boundar- were given each commission member. In it Mr. Carter dated the ies willingness of The Preserve to withdraw its Moorings request until the village has a chance to resolve its park plans. Mr. Bonner, of The Preserve staff said they had entered into a separate agreement with Mark Z. Jones; Dick Schwarz is working on plans for the 75 acres in the basswood area north of the Moorings along the shoreline of the South Anderson Lake. M/Garens, S/Erickson that the Park and Recreation Commission thank The Preserve for their understanding of the situation, and that we recommend to the Council that the Anderson Lakes Park maintain the whole area with the boundary the East- lest Parkway, and if unforseem circumstances arise. the prime area to have in the park is east of the marsh. Carried. Bonner asked horn soon we would know the outcome of our fund applica- tion, and Jessen said he has been told we should know tV the and of the year. Bonner said The Preserve would like to Bell as soon as possible; Jeasen said he has been looking into interim financing and will pursue it further. E.P. PK. and Rec. Comm. Mtg. August 14, 1972 Page 3 III. F. Nine Mile Jessen discussed his report dated June 26 presenting a concept Creek for a trail system following Nine Mile Creek from Birch Island Trail Plan Lake to the eastern border at County Rd. 18. He also showed the possible routes on a working map, for all uses except motorized vehicles. The routes fall into five areas separated by man-made features such as highways which will allow for acquisition in stages. Ebr using dedicated lands and land donations as the local share for matching funds, it is possible the system might not cost E.P. village anything. Jessen said he would check properties with the floodplain map when it is done. G. "Horse" (Copy on file) Jessen said this is a result of working out. some Ordinance factors with the Horseman's Council. It spells out regulations in residential and non-residential areas, and how license fees will } be used. i M/HLacklock, S/Cosmano that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend to the Council that the "Horse" Ordinance be approved. Carried. H. "Dutch Elm"Jessen explained that the ordinance covers Dutch elm disease, Ordinance dead elms and oak wilt. It is based on a model ordinance from the state. A subsequent ordinance will cover financing of the remov]A of trees. At present 34 areas in E.P. are suspect with an estimated 75 to 150 diseased e3m trees. M/Erickson, S/Cosmano that the Park and Recreation Commission C reconanend approval of the "Dutch Elm" Ordinance to the Council, and that implementation be considered in the 1973 budget. Carried. I. Golf M/Garens, S/Berkland that the Park and Recreation Commission Course reccmmend to the Council that land on Duck Lake Trail be acquired Study through dedication or purchase as open space to hold for future golf course development. Carried.' J. Develop- 1, Creek Knolls Flat was passed by the Council without formal ment Pro- action by the Pk. and Rec. Comm. Scenic easement allows no use of posals Purgatory Creek valley by developer. Ideas for developing Purgatory trail plan will be needed. Hustad property off Stuff Road. 2. Valley Knolls land between Duck Lake Trail and Barberry Lane extension adjacent to proposed golf course. Includes no internal system of trails but a park area ties into golf course with road access. Jessen said the staff recommends the plat as well designed but thinks there should be sidewalks or internal trails. M/Garans, S/Erickson that the Park and Recreation Commission recommends to the Council that the Valley Knolls plat be approved and that sidewalk along Duck Lake Road be considered or backyard trailway be part of the plan. Carried. 3. Public Pathways through PUD1s There was discussion about respon- sibility for developing paths through PUD19. Garens suggested that the developer should develop internal paths and the village do the public paths. Bonner says they agree with this at The Preserve, and in the case where they need a path that the village would eventually develop and do it themselves, they should get credit for the future. The problem of the smaller developer was brought up who will not have E.P. Pk. and Rae. Comm. Mtg. Aug,, 14, 1972 Page 4 a Hoare Owners Assn for maintaining and developing inner quasi- public trail areas -- Should the village maintiin these when The Preserve and Edenvale are taking care of theirs? The need for a subcommitte in the Commission was expressed to develop a concept of standards, general feelings, and fairness to be reviewed by the whole com, ission. M/Garens, S/Berkland that a committee of three be set up to study the trail concept. Carried. The chairman appointed Willim Garens, Janet Berkland and ? Richard Anderson to serve on this committee with Marty Jessen. K. School-Village Jessen projected several overlay maps of E.P. that had been Study: school developed from several approaches to the problem uCt of determining sites the future development patterns and population of Eden Prairie so the need for the number and location of high schools could be decided. The average population figure at hill development fran several studies is 141,071 with an average school population figure - 36,514. This implies that there will be a need for many more schools than was originally thought. There will probably be a need for four high schools of 2,000 pupils each. In determin- ing school sites it is best to consider where people will be rather than to bass over long distances. Jessen said Mr. Richardson, the interim supt. of schools has been very helpful in working on the problem. Several suggestions for sites have been made. L. C Agency Id.ason Garens said he had the annual report of Purgatory-Riley Creek Reports Watershed District and that he would share it with members. M/Garens, S/Hlackloc that the meeting be adjourned. Carried. Frances Blacklock, Secretary NEXT MEETING: Special meeting ku-mat 28 7:30 p.m. EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION CCMMSION MEETING (SPECIAL) August 28, 1972 7:30 p.m. Village Hall Present: Marvin Erickson, Chairman, Willimn' Garena, John Cosmano, Richard Anderson, Janet Berkland, Rita Kooiman, Frances Blacklock; Marty Jessen, Park and Recreation Director I. RECOMMENDATIONS ANJ) REPORTS A. Hennepin (Staff Repoi^t on File). Jessen outlined what he considered key points County relating Eden Prairie to the county trail plan. County snowmobile trails Trail are not applicable to E.P. so they wouildntt help our problem of provid- Plan. ing trails for snowmobilers. The county is planning on financing with state and county funds; Jessen feels that registration fees are a better source of revenue. He considers parkland acquisition a higher priority, that trails can be acquired through dedication as were getting ours along Purgatory, and that getting state and county funds for trails would take from the same funds needed for parks. Garens suggested that Jessen and one member from the Pk. and. Rea. Commission represent E.P. on the county coordinating committee. M/Garens, S/Anderson that the Park and Recreation Commission feels that the County- Wide approach to trail planning is desirable and is worthy of our support. We think it requires a better analysis of the funding possibilities than that outlined in the Park Reserve District report; that funds should cone from some user fee or regis- tration fee that assesses cost to those using the trail rather than state or federal funding. Carried. Erickson appointed Garens to Cserve with Jessen on the county coordinating corm ittee. B. E. P. Garens presented the TraiWay Committee Report and said they would Trail need more meetings to draw up more finished plans. (Report on File). Sub- There was discussion as to whether or not we should plan for contin- Commitee uous trails in spite of barriers such as highways, or whether to plan Report for segments of trails. Anderson felt strongly that it was not our job to say how to finance the trails but to provide long-range planning, that Nine Mile and Purgatory Creeks be top priority for under or over- passes whenever they are crossed. Sections K and L of the report were changed to read: "That long uninterrupted trails along creewways are not economically feasible because of mantmade obstructions that exist today. But plans should be made for future connections. That trails be established along creekways even though they are not interconnected at this point, but options remain for long-range possibility of building those connections." II. DISCUSSION A. Metro Jessen distributed copies of "A Recreation System Classification for Open the Metropolitan Area." (Copy cd' File) Jessen serves on the advisory Space committee to the Open Space Board. B. Highway Anderson raised the question of how many highways are needed and going to be allowed - that some run almost parallel very close to each other, that the next extension of County 62 may out through Bryant Park, and that Eden Prairie may be at the saturation point of freeways. There has been no final alignment of 62 west of Shady Oak. M/Garena, S/ffiac ock that the meeting be adjourned. Carried. Frances Hlacklock, Secretary