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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, AUGUST 2, 1993 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown,
Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Adam Harju,
David Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch, Thomas Marcus,
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 19, 1993
IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
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V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. giant Lake Regional Park Development Plan
VI. OLD BUSINESS
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VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Consider Change of Meeting Time from 7:30 p.m. to 7:00 12m
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Director of Parks. Recreation & Natural Resources
1. Annual Report Summary- continued from July 19th Meeting
B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
1, Riley Purgatory Creek Watershed District Annual Report and Town
Meeting Notice
2. Selection Process for the Deer Study Co mmittee
IX. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, AUGUST 2, 1993 7:30 p.m., City Hall
7600 EXactutiVe Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman,
Claire Hilgeman, Thomas Marcus,
Richard Brown, Diane Popovich Lynch,
Adam Harju
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Dave Kracum
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of
Parks, Recreation and Natural
Resources
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chair, Pat
Richard.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Richard Brown brought up the trail markings at Staring Lake.
Painting of arrows on trail is not clear; which direction for
walkers path vs. bikers is confusing; currently roller blades
can go either direction. Signs are, on order to correct this.
MOTION: Brown moved to approve the Agenda for the August 2,
1993 meeting. Motion seconded by Hilgeman. Motion
passed 7-0
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 19 1993
A. Corrections noted were:
1. Page 3, last paragraph - cited misspelled.
2. Page 7, B. second paragraph - Hilgeman misspelled.
3. Page 7, B. fourth paragraph - take out were in
first sentence.
MOTION: Hilgeman moved to approve the Minutes as Amended
above of the July 19, 1993 meeting. Motion
seconded by Bowman. Motion passed 7-0.
IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Bryant Lake Regional Park Development Plan
Donald Uram, Planner, with Suburban Hennepin Regional
Park District presented a site plan review.
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The Bryant Lake Regional Park Development is 167 acres
plus a small piece (under 2 acres) . The proposed project
is the first phase of a three phase project.
Construction includes the main park entrance, a
maintenance building, picnic pavilion/visitor center with
parking for 120 cars plus 6 handicap, a play area, boat
rental/changing shelter, a boat ramp with parking for 20
cars, the beach and a retaining wall for the pond.
Phase II is for a reservation picnic area on the East
side of the park. It will include 4 picnic sites, picnic
shelter, restrooms and parking for 25 cars.
Phase III will add an additional reservation picnic area
and parking for another 120 cars.
1. Would like to start taking bids next month if
project is approved.
2. They will build the beach during the winter per the
DNR permit.
3. Where is the new access to the park?
- Back away from Raspberry Hill Road.
- Pulled it 60' into the park to save trees and
provide a buffer for traffic.
4. Concern of neighbors regarding the location of the
maintenance building.
- Provided landscape plan utilizing earth berms and
plantings to provide screening.
- It will be 450' to the closest home.
5. All park roads will be curbed and guttered.
6. There will be room to double stack cars and
trailers off of Rowland Road (not allowed to park
at boat launch) .
7. This plan will improve the quality of the lake's
water.
DISCUSSION:
Bowman:
- What landscaping is in the area of the maintenance
shop now? Box elder trees and some natural
vegetation.
- Will this limit residents view of the lake? No,
none of the neighbors have a clear view of the lake
now.
C - Is there a limit to the number of boats on the lake
and/or that can launch? The park will provide
space for 20 boats to launch, once those spaces are
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filled no additional boats can launch from Bryant
Lake Regional Park until another space frees up.
The parking lots are also gated. However, we can
not control launches from other sites on the lake.
- This is a 170 acre lake and the formula provides 1
boat for every 20 acres. Historically this has
been a 20 stall lake since 1967.
- There have been noise complaints on this lake - can
we limit the use of 'jet skis?
Control would have to come from the city.
Perhaps some type of enforcement program to
limit.
Hennepin County is willing to work with the
City on this.
Brown:
Do we have anything in place to limit noise on any
of our other lakes? You could limit speed to 10
m.p.h. but that will prohibit skiing and discourage
many fishermen. There is a state law limiting
noise.
Bowman:
Are there any provisions for milfoil inspection or !!!
a cleaning station?
- When boats come into the park they are
inspected.
- DNR/Park arranges for spot checks on the
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Spot checks help but they are not pe
With unlimited access to the lake there is no
way to check or control.
Brown: a
Have dates been set for Phase I or II?
- Phase I - estimated at $1.2 MM - completion in
Spring 1995.
- Park will be closed during construction - all
of 1994.
- This will be a three season park
spring/summer/fall.
- Cost of grooming trails, lighting and snow
making equipment ruled out use for Winter
activities. Park will be open in the winter
for limited use.
Doug Bryant indicated that developing parks for
cross country skiing is very expensive. The
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decision the Park District made is to limit the
number of parks where cross country skiing is
provided. This is similar to the decision many
cities have made on outdoor hockey rinks. Many
cities once provided for hockey rinks at all park
facilities within the city - it became prohibitive
to provide staffing, parking, restrooms and
maintenance at all locations. Now hockey rinks are
maintained at selected locations only in most
cities.
Popovich Lynch:
Will picnic sites be available with the completion
of Phase I?
- Phase I will provide reservation picnic areas
only.
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MOTION: Popovich Lynch moved to approve the Bryant Lake
Regional Park Development Plan per the July 23,
1993 Staff Report. Motion seconded by Brown.
Motion passed 6-0.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None f
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Consider Change of Meeting Time from 7 30 b m to 7.00
p•m•
Hilgeman and Richard are in favor of meeting earlier.
Popovich Lynch - if we are going to start 30 minutes,
let's plan on leaving 30 minutes earlier. The motivation
is to leave earlier and not just expand the length of the
meeting.
Staff has no objection to changing the meeting time.
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MOTION: Hilgeman moved to change the starting time of
the August 16, 1993 meeting to 7:00 p.m.
Motion seconded by Brown. Motion passed 6-0.
NOTE: Richard will make sure that Kube-
Harderwijk and Kracum are notified
of the time change.
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VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. geports of Director of Parks Recreation & Natural
Resources
1. Annual Report Summary - continued from July 19th
Meeting
See Financial Section of 1992 Annual Report.
B. ge orts of Manager of Parks and Natural Resot3r-sces
1. Riley Purggtory Creek Watershed District Annual
Report and Town Meeting Notice
For Your Information - see attachment - Bob Lambert.
2. Selection process for the Deer Study Committee
For Your Information - see attachment - Bob Lambert.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Hilgeman moved to adjourn the meeting. Popovich
Lynch seconded the motion. Motion passed 6-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Hengel
Recording Secretary
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMIVIISSION
MONDAY, AUGUST 16, 1993
7W P M , CXTY HALT,
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown,
Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Adam Har u,
David Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch, Thomas Marcus
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 2, 1993
IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
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V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Boulder Pointe 5th Addition
VI. OLD BUSINESS
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VII. NEW BUSINESS
None
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager
1. Rgquests for Hockey Tournaments
IX. ADJO RNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
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MONDAY, AUGUST 16, 1993 7:00 P. M., CITY HALL
7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
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COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown, Claire Hilgeman,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kracum, Diane
Popovich Lynch
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Richard
COMMISSION STAFF: Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. by acting chair Diane Popovich Lynch.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Add: NEW BUSINESS - A. Status Report of Referendum
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 2j 1993 ^I
MOTION: Moved by Hilgeman, seconded by Brown. Motion passed 4-0 with Kracum
and Kube-Harderwijk abstaining.
IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
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A. Boulder Pointe 5th Addition - Cross state that Randy Travalia of Mason Homes
was unable to attend the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission 7
meeting because he had a conflict with a Council meeting in another city. Cross
reviewed the 1998 PUD and described the extension of the sidewalk along
Boulder Pointe Road, the storm water ponds and the tree loss. The developer has
replaced enough trees in previous phases that no additional tree replacement is
required by code on this project. Brown asked if there was an ordinance against I '�
bicycles riding on a sidewalk. Cross stated that Eden Prairie does not have this
kind of ordinance. Kube-Harderwijk asked if the City would erect at fence along
the property line of the park to screen the homeowner. Cross answered that the
City does not put up a fence. A row of spruce trees are planted within the park
property for screening and that the owner could erect a fence if desired.
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MOTION: Moved by Kracum, seconded by Kube- Harderwijk, to approve the
Boulder Pointe 5th Addition project as per the recommendation of the Planning
Staff Report by Michael Fransen dated August 6, 1993. Motion passed 5-0.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Status of Referendum - Popovich Lynch inquired what the status of the
referendum to acquire the lands selected by the Natural Resource Study
Committee. Cross explained that we were in the process of having the three
properties appraised. The committee members will be notified when the
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appraisals are completed and negotiations would then begin with property owners.
Kracum asked if the City was running out of time to market the bond referendum.
Hilgeman stated that the last bond referendum was given a six week time frame i
for marketing. a
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager
1. Request for Hockey Tournament -Cross stated we have two requests for
additional hockey tournaments at the Eden Prairie Community Center.
One request was from the Hockey Association of Eden Prairie and one 1
from Dictrict 6 Youth State Hockey. The Hockey Association of Eden
Prairie usually has two tournaments to serve as fund raisers for their
association. They are asking for two additional tournaments. Lesson
programs would not be affected, but public skating times would need to
be cancelled. Popovich Lynch stated concern that public skating would
be cancelled the day after Thanksgiving. Brown stated that this
tournament is a fund raiser for the Eden Prairie Hockey association and
not only would the City gain revenue for this ice time, but the money that
was raised would pay for additional ice time for the Hockey Association.
MOTION: Moved by Brown, seconded by Hilgeman, to approve the
Hockey Association of Eden Prairie tournaments at the Community Center
as laid out in Dave Black's August 10, 1993 memo. Motion approved 5-
0.
MOTION: Moved by Brown, seconded by Hilgeman, to approve the
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August 16, 1993
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District 6 Hockey to host the Youth State Hockey Tournaments at the
Community Center based on Dave Black's August 10, 1993 memo.
Motion approved 5-0.
Hilgeman initiated discussion about the future of an outdoor pool in Eden
Prairie. She stated that she had been visiting pools of other communities
this summer and Oak Point would be a good place to build an indoor
swimming pool, but Eden Prairie should strongly consider building an y
outdoor swimming pool. Popovich Lynch suggested talking with the
Preserve to obtain public use of their pool. Hilgeman stated her desire to
contact other community outdoor pools for information.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION: Moved by Kube-Harderwijk, seconded by Bowman, to adjourn the meeting.
Motion passed 6-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. by acting Chair Popovich Lynch.
Respectfully Submitted, I
Barbara Penning Cross
Recording Secretary
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