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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMIVVJ[ISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1992 7:30 P. M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Claire Hilgeman,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kracum, Diane
Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 17. 1992
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMML>NICATIONS
CA. RRNuest from Pr=M Owners to Eliminate "Ecklund Swedlund" Trail
B. $west from FoZjet Swim Club
C. Utter from Minnesota Shade T= Advisory Committee
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
None
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Joint Meeting with City Council - October 6. 1992
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONS AND STAFF
A. RR=rts of Director of Parks Recreation and Natural Resources
1. Fall Construction Projects - Update
2. Cedar Forest Park Acquisition Status
B. Reports of Architect
C1. Garden: Status and Design at Valley View Road and County Road 4
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C. R=rts of Manager of Recreation Ser...�ps
1. 1,992 4th of July Report
2. 1992 Dramatic Production (L,I'I ABNER) Report
VIU. REP RTS OF CITY COUN['IL
]EX. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1992 7:30 P.,M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bruce Bowman, Joan Kube-Harderwijk, David
Kracum, Del Vanderploeg, Claire Hilgeman
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Diane Popovich Lynch, Pat Richard
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barb Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Del Vanderploeg.
II. APPROVAL OF A tENp
C MOTION: Hilgeman moved, seconded by Kube-Harderwijk to approve the agenda as
printed. Motion passed 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES AUGUST 17. 1992
Vanderploeg noted that Rusterholz on page five is spelled incorrectly.
MOTION: Hilegman moved, seconded by Kube-Harderwijk, to approved the minutes
as corrected. Motion passed 4-0, Bowman abstained
IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS & COMMT NICATIONS
A. Request from ProWrty Owners to Eliminate Eckl„nd Swedlund Trail - Terry
Thimsen, 7440 Parkview Lane, and Dick Gunderson, 18220 South Shore Lane,
represented five property owners requesting approval of a subdivision of Outlot
A of Hidden Ponds development. Mrs. Thimsen indicated that a Homeowner's
Association was never developed for the First Addition of Hidden Ponds, and that
they have requested in the past to have the City take over the trails. The outlot
is owned by a defunct company, Ecklund and Swedlund; however, Mr. Swedlund
has signed a quit claim deed for each of the proposed subdivide parcels. The
property owners need approval of the City Council to subdivide the outlot. The
property owners will remove the trail behind their homes at their own expense.
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Commission members then questioned staff as per the need for the trail. Lambert
replied that the trail has been in disrepair since the late 1970's and the property
owners in the neighborhood have been unwilling to form an association and repair
the trail; therefore, it is his opinion that the trail is apparently not needed or
wanted by the neighborhood. In the past, the City Council has rejected City
acquisition and maintenance of the trail, unless the trail is brought up to City
standards. City staff believe the existing trail condition is a liability concern for
the adjacent property owners and concur with the request to allow the subdivision
of the outlot and the removal of the trail by the adjacent property owners.
MOTION: Hilegman moved, seconded by Kube-Harderwijk, to recommend the
City Council approve the subdivision of Outlot A as per the property owners
.; request. Motion passed 5-0.
B. RrQuest from Foxiet Swim Club - Lambert referred to the September 11, 1992
memorandum from Elyce Kastigar, Recreation Supervisor for Aquatics. Lambert
explained that the Foxjet's program continues to grow and they need additional
pool time in order to accommodate the 170 children presently in the program.
Their request is to share lane space with the open swim time. City staff concur
with this request, due to the light attendance of the open swim time in the evening
hours. Lambert indicates that with this request the Foxjets will be using four
lanes until 8:30 p.m., and the open swim will be restricted to the remaining four
lanes and the diving well. This will easily accommodate the 25-30 people that
generally use the open swim period at that time.
Vanderploeg questioned whether or not the City should begin charging a prime
time rate and non prime time rate in order to encourage the Foxjets to use later �•
hours. Lambert replied that the Foxjets are already paying more per hour than
most other swim clubs in the state and that most of their swimmers are
elementary or junior high age children that probably would elect not to swim if
they were required to practice after 8:30 or 9:00 p.m.
MOTION: Bowman moved, seconded by Hilgeman, to approve the Foxjet
request to expand their current scheduled practice hours at the Community
Center, Motion passed 5-0.
C. Utter from Minnesota Shade Tree Advisory Committee-Lambert indicated that
this was an information item only.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS - None
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VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Joint Meeting with City Council - October 6, 1992 - Lambert reminded
commission members that the special meeting with the City Council will be held
at 6 p.m. on Tuesday, October 6, 1992, prior to our regularly scheduled City
Council meeting. The actual meeting time will be limited to approximately one
hour; therefore, the commission members may want to limit the agenda and
prioritize which items should be discussed first on the agenda.
Commission members agreed that the agenda ought to be as follows:
1. Priority of Preservation of Natural Features - Study of Minnesota River
Bluff and Creek Valleys, "Big Woods"
2. Role of the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission in the
Development Review Process
3. Purgatory Creek Recreation Area Land Acquisition
4. Swimming Pool Needs (possible discussion of a joint meeting with the
School Board)
C Commission members believe that the other issues listed in the September 15th
memo should be addressed in future meetings, but that it is unlikely we would
have sufficient time to discuss those issues at the October 6th meeting.
Lambert agreed to provide a memo providing background and stating the issues on each
of the items listed for discussion at the October 6th meeting.
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Revorts of Director of Parks. Recreation and Natural Resources
1. Fall Construction Projects - Update - The September memo outlining fall
construction projects is provided to members of the Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission and the City Council to simply provide up
to date information on the tentative schedule for completing those projects.
Staff is aware that citizens often ask commission and councilmembers the
status of projects that are anticipated to be completed near the end of the
year. Hopefully, this memo will allow commission and councilmembers
to answer some of those questions.
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2. Cedar Forest Park Acquisition Status-The purpose of the September 15th
memo is to bring commission and councilmembers up to date on the
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Cedar Forest Park acquisition project. Lambert explained that staff will
return to the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission and
City Council with additional information within the next 30 days.
B. Reports of LandscaW Architect
1. Garden Status and Design at Valley View Road and County Road 4 -
Cross showed the phasing plan for development of the flower garden at
the intersection of Valley View Road and County Road 4. Cross indicated
that the plans for the garden are relatively close to complete; however, the
plans for the centerpiece of the garden, a possible grape arbor, is still in
the schematic design phase.
Lambert indicated that it was his hope that this entire site would feature
improvements that are funded through donations such as the Garden Club,
the Eden Prairie Foundation, Lions Club, Lioness, etc. He believes it is
important to recognize each of the donations on a formal plaque that
would encourage future gifts, as this project will phased over a five to ten
year period. It is a highly visible corner that could provide a very
impressive entry to Round Lake Park and the high school campus.
C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services
1. 1992 4th of July R=rt - Lambert indicated that this was an information
item only. Commission members commended Laurie Helling and her
staff for another tremendous job with the 4th of July this year.
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2. 1992 Dramatic Production (Li'l Abnerl - Lambert indicated this was an
information item only. Several commission members indicated that they
enjoyed the production and encouraged the staff to continue similar
productions in the future.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Hilgeman moved, seconded by Kube-Harderwijk, to adjourn the meeting.
Motion passed 5-0.
Meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Robert A. Lambert, Recording Secretary
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