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Parks and Recreation - 11/18/1991 1991 NOVEMBER 4 18 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN P-R-A-IRIE ,L AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBE:R 4, 1991 7:30 p.m., CITY HALL � 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Paul Karpinko, Joanne Kube- Harderwijk, David Kuechenmeister, Diane Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and s. Natural Resources I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 7. 1991 IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. RRgQuest from Wooddale Church for Use of Rinks at Round Lake Park V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Eden Prairie Car Dealership B. Golf Pointe VI. OLD BUSINESS VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Clean Water Partnership Project Development Grant Application for Chain of Lakes Watershed VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Report of Commissioners 1. Wildlife Management Program U2date B. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services l 1. 1991 Fall Entertainment Eden Prairie Style Final Report _.L Agenda - PRNRC ' November 4, 1991 Page 2 2. Summer Olen Hockey Season Ending Repgrt 3. Adult Athletic Final Reports a. Men's Volleyball: 1990-91 b. Women's Volleyball: 1991 C. 1991 Co-Rec Wallyball Holiday Tournament d. 1991 Winter Wallyball e. "Freeze Your Face Off" Snow Softball Tournament f. Table Tennis: Winter 1991 League g. RacQuetball: Winter 1991 h. Senior Men's Hockey: Winter 1991 w i. Men's Broomball: 1991 j. Men's Boot Hockey; 1991 k. Co-Rec Broomball: 1990-91 1. Men's 5-Man Basketball: 1990-91 C. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager 1. Rgquest for Ice Time on Saturday �. 2. Community Center Ice Plant Repairs Update IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL X. ADJOURNMENT parkag/Bob APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, November 4, 1991 7:30 p.m. , City Hall 7600 Executive Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, chair; Bruce Bowman, Paul Karpinko, Diane Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kuechenmeister COMMISSION STAFF Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources; Laurie Helling, Recreation Supervisor; Barb Cross, Landscape Architect, Dave Black, Community Center Operations Manager I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7: 35 p.m. by chair, Pat Richard. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Lambert added VIII. D. Reports of Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources 1. Parks and Recreation Facility Needs Study Committee. MOTION: Karpinko moved to approve the agenda as amended. Lynch seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 7, 1991 MOTION: Lynch moved to approve the minutes as printed. Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Request from Wooddale Church for use of Rinks at Round Lake Park Refer to memo dated October 27, 1991 from Lyndell Frey, Recreation Supervisor. l f.4 1. 14APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL, RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 4, 1991 -2- Lambert said that reservations are generally not taken for private groups. Wooddale Church is requesting the use of both outdoor ice rinks at Round Lake Park for a broomball tournament. They have been advised that both ice rinks would not be reserved for a private group and use taken away from the public. Staff recommends that one rink at Round Lake be reserved along with one rink at either Prairie View or Edenvale. Vanderploeg asked how many years Wooddale Church has made this request. Lambert said the request has been made for 3-4 years. Karpinko asked if Wooddale Church is allowed to reserve the rinks, would this be setting a precedent for other groups. Lambert said that other churches have been invited to participate in the tournament so it would be mainly for use by Eden Prairie residents. Richard asked if there is room at Prairie View or Edenvale to add a field for broomball. Lambert said he would not recommend adding a field unless it was lit or it could be used only for broomball and softball. Bowman asked how many people would participate in this tournament and how many people attend. Lambert said this has not been checked. MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to recommend that Wooddale Church be allowed to reserve one rink at Round Lake Park and one rink at either Prairie View or Edenvale for their broomball tournament on Friday, January 24. Karpinko seconded the motion. On call for discussion, Karpinko said he is concerned that Friday nights are already used for makeup games. Lambert said that no makeup games would be scheduled for that night. The motion passed 5-0 . V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Eden Prairie Car Dealershi Refer to staff report dated October 4, 1991. A Y ,APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 4, 1991 -3- Cross introduced Dave Trucker of Accent Realty and Dick Zenesik, architect. The proposal is planned for the old factory outlet site with 16 acres of land to be developed into a 158,800 sq. ft. auto dealership. Trucker said that green space on the east side of the property has been added. There will be 8.58 acres of parking which has been reduced from the original plan. Islands in the parking lot on the site have already been removed. Two dealerships will be located on the east and south sides of the existing building with a body shop. There will be parking for 1000 cars. Cross asked Trucker to elaborate on the customer parking area and where cars will be stored. Trucker showed the location on the site plan. Lambert asked where the new cars will be located. Trucker showed the location on the site plan. CCross said that one acre of green space is berming and added that banners will not be allowed except for grand openings. Trucker said that there are four dealerships planned on the site at this time with the possibility of more to be added. Richard asked if the City logo will be incorporated into the logo for the dealership. Zenesik said that the City logo is just in the beginning stages, but the developer would have no problem doing so. Cross commented that there are no significant trees on the site, the developer is meeting the tree code requirements and the only grading that will be done will be for berming. Bowman asked about lighting on the site. Zenesik said that this has been discussed with the Planning Department and the developer has agreed that lighting will be a maximum height of 24 feet and use down lighting. Cross added that the sidewalk system is already in place. Lambert asked if customers will be able to go from one dealership to another without going outside. Zenesik said that this is the plan. � . ' ; APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 4, 1991 -4- MOTION: Karpinko moved to recommend approval of Eden Prairie Auto Center per staff report. Lynch seconded the motion and it passed 5-0 . B. Golf Pointe Refer to staff report dated October 4, 1991. Tom Robertson from Associated Investments was present at the meeting. He said that the proposal was originally reviewed in 1988, but was delayed pending a decision by the railroad, Graffiti Bridge and the updating of Valley View Road. Due to the changing economic conditions , the developer is requesting a subdivision of five single family lots. Cross added that the sidewalks are already constructed and there are no significant trees on the site. Half of the site is within the conservancy zone and the balance is in the transition zone, but because of the golf course, the natural character of the site has already been changed. MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of Golf Pointe per staff recommendation. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Clean Water Partnership Project Development Grant Application for Chain of Lakes Watershed Refer to memo dated October 10, 1991 from Alan Gray, P.E. City Engineer. Cross said that there is funding available from the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency for diagnostic feasibility studies. Bryant Lake has already been applied for a grant. There have been problems asssociated with the run-off from the vo-tech riding arena. Bryant Lake has been rated #6 for funding this year and there is funding available for four to be done in 1992. The City would like to apply for funding for studies on ` Rond Lake, Red Rock Lake and Mitchell Lake. This is a matching program which has not been budgeted for this year. I ,4 rwm.`t. -n..:r� s�.Y....-.s.tx.n.N...r. ♦n,..w..........� '!i k •APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 4, 1991 -6- Vanderploeg asked about Lake Riley. Cross said that the City wants to start with the more manageable lakes first. MOTION: Lynch moved to recommend support of the clean water partnership project development grant application for the Chain of Lakes Watershed. Karpinko seconded the motion. On call for discussion, Lynch asked if the grant is not received, will the City still go ahead with the project. Lambert said there is was also a plan to add a full-time staff person, but this has already been eliminated from the 1992 budget. Vanderploeg asked when the study would begin. Lambert said it would most likely begin in 1993. Vanderploeg asked if the Commission should be considering studies on other lakes at this point. Lambert said that Lake Riley will be included with two lakes in Chanhassen which have already been applied for. The motion passed 5-0. VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Report of Commissioners 1. Wildlife Management Program Update Lynch reported that she met with Stu Fox and Mitch Schneider who recommended that the City focus on six different species including deer, geese, raccoon, muscrat, opposum and beaver. They felt that complaints should be handled on an individual basis and that a wildlife managment office should be established to handle calls and complaints. Lambert said that he referred to the Bloomington wildlife management plan as an example and said he feels Eden Prairie should be considered as one area rather_ than divided into several different areas. • C APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 5 , 1991 -7- Bowman asked how the different areas would be differentiated. Lambert said he feels that complaints need to be handled on a case by case basis and that costs for removal should be the responsibility of the individual that makes the complaint unless health or danger to public property is involved. Lynch asked what the next step of the program will be. Lambert said that he will discuss it with the F department heads, Vanderploeg will continue working with Schneider on the public information fact sheets and a resolution will be drafted. B. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services 1. 1991 Fall Entertainment Eden Prairie Style Final Report 2. Summer Open Hockey Season Ending Report 3. Adult Athletic Final Reports a. Men' s Volleyball: 1990-91 b. Women ' s Volleyball: 1991 C. 1991 Co-Rec Wallyball Holiday Tournament d. 1991 Winter Wallyball e. "Freeze Your Face Off" Snow Softball Tournament f. Table Tennis: Winter 1991 League g. Racquetball: Winter 1991 h. Senior Men' s Hockey: Winter 1991 i. Men' s Broomball : 1991 j . Men' s Boot Hockey: 1991 k. Co-Rec Broomball: 1990-91 1 . Men' s 5-Man Basketball : 1991-91 These are information items only. C. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager 1. Request for Ice Time on Saturday Refer to memo dated October 29, 1991 from Dave Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor. Black reviewed the regular public skating season hours noting the exceptions of the Eden Prairie High l School home hockey games and two tournaments held by the Eden Prairie Hockey Association. ( APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 5, 1991 -8- There have been requests made by the high school and District VI Hockey. Staff recommends approval of the requests. MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of the requests for exceptions to normal public skating sessions by Eden Prairie High School and District VI Hockey. Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. 2. Community Center Ice Plant Repairs Update Refer to memo dated October 7, 1991 from Dave Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor. Black noted that the October 25 goal for completion was met. Total repair costs are approximately $10,000- $15,000 and $10,000-$15,000 in lost revenue. D. Reports of Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources 1. Parks and Recreation Fac" ity Needs Study Committee Lambert said that the next Commission meeting will have a very light agenda with regular Commission business to be completed by 8 :00 p.m. Invitations have been sent to those who may be interested in participating in the Parks and Recreation Facility Needs Study Committee. The participants will be divided into five sub-committees with the following staff liaisons : trail needs (Stu Fox) ; community recreation facility needs (Bob Lanzi, Lyndell Frey, Laurie Helling) ; swimming pool needs (Laurie Helling, Elaine Kastigar) ; community parks and open space development (Bob Lambert) and neighborhood park acquisition (Barb Cross) . These sub-committees will then meet on an individual basis and then will meet with Bob Lambert and present their requests to the City Council. Lambert said that this should be accomplished in no more than four meetings. Lambert will send a copy of the news release to all members of the Commission. IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL i None "fiAPPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 5, 1991 -9- X. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to adjourn the meeting at 9 :20 p.m. Lynch seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois�LaJ \7:..ZO�C.0 Cih�2.V Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary C AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1991 7:30 p.m., CITY HALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Paul Karpinko, Joanne Kube- Harderwijk, David Kuechenmeister, Diane Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 4, 1991 IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS �•. V. OLD BUSINESS None VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Proposed Study_of Birch Island Lake B. Contract Format for Use of Community Center VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF i i A. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services j I i 1. Athletic Coordinator's Season Ending Repgrts a. Monday Men's gym Night/Saturday Opcn Gym 1990-91 b. Senior Men's Hockey - Summer 1991 C. Senior Men's Hockey - Spring 1991 d Men's 3-Man Basketball - Spring 1991 e. 1991 Spring Wallyball f. Saturday Volleyball Open Corm 1990-91 iT PRNRC AGENDA November 18, 1991 Page 2 g. Racquetball - Summer 1991 h. Sand Volleyball - Summer 1991 i. Fantasy Baseball - 1991 j. Soar with the-Eagles Football Clinic - 1991 k. Adult Tennis - Summer 1991 1. Doubles Horseshoe Uague - 1991 M. Co-Rec Volleyball - Winter 1991 n. Adult Tennis - Sgn�g 1991 2. Adaptive Rec Sgr&ialist's Program Ending Reports - Summer 1991 a. ExRlorers b. Adaptive Swim Lessons C. D.A.S.H.E.R. d. Walking Club e. E-Z Sports f. Integration Summary C VIII. ADJOURNMENT Parkag/bob 4 H r APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, November 18, 1991 7:30 p.m. , City Hall " 7600 Executive Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, chair; Bruce I Bowman, Paul Karpinko, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Diane Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: David Kuechenmeister COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources, Barb Cross, Landscape Architect, Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chair, Pat Richard. C II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Vanderpleog moved to approve the agenda as printed. Bowman seconded the motion and it passed 6-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER % 1991 MOTION: Lynch moved to approve the minutes as printed. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 6-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. OLD BUSINESS None VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Proposed Study of Birch Island Lake Refer to memo dated November 13, 1991 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources. ♦' APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 18, 1991 -2- Lambert reported that a 'letter was received from David Sonnenberg, Director of Engineering for the City of Minnetonka from Barr Engineering about a proposed study of the decline in the water surface elevation of Glen Lake, Shady Oak Lake and Birch Island Lake. The first phase of the study would cost approximately $40, 000 and would be shared by the Watershed District who would pay $13,332, the City of Eden Prairie who would pay $8889 and the City of Minnetonka who would pay $17,778. The purpose of the first phase of the study would be to identify the problem and find out what is causing the decline in the water surface elevation. A decision would then be made to fund Ptiase 2 of the study which would provide a solution to the problem at a cost of $25, 000 to $60 , 000. Phase 3 would be construction plans and actual implementation of the program. Lambert recommends that Phase 1 of this study be done with funding from the 1991 general fund reserve. C_ Vanderploeg asked what type of development is going on in this area. Lambert said there is not much new construction, but there is possible reconstruction in the area. MOTION: Lynch moved to recommend authorization to fund up to $8889 for a study to determine the cause for the receding water table at Birch Island Lake using funding from the 1991 general fund reserve. Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 6-0. B. Contract Format for Use of Communit Center Refer to memo dated November 12, 1991 from David Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor. Lambert said the Community Center has been operating without a contract for long-term users. Some questions have been raised about what is included in the rental, cancellation terms, etc. A draft copy of the contract was sent to each of the main user groups and the only group that has a problem at this point is the Figure Skating Club. Jerry Weinken Of the Figure Skating Club was present at the meeting. r «.,.... . ............____..... ._._.. - ... lip SNi! APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 18, 1991 -3- Weinken said the purpose of the contract is good, but it is his opinion that the user groups could not sign I it without the advise of legal counsel. He has a problem with the legal issues in the contract and has given a copy of the contract to his attorney for comment. He said all liability and responsibility for the figure skaters would go to the figure skating club. Bowman said he understands that even when the facility is rented by a particular group, it is still open to the public. Weinken said the contract is too broad based. Karpinko asked if the City attorney has made any comments about the contract. Lambert said that there were four separate contracts which the City attorney drafted into one. The contract will be discussed again at the next Commission meeting. MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to table the issue until the next Commission meeting. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 6-0. VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF A. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services 1. Athletic Coordinator's Season Ending Reports a. Monday Men' s Gym Nights/Saturday Open Gym 1990- 1991 b. Senior Men's Hockey - Summer 1991 c. Senior Men' s Hockey - Spring 1991 d. Men' s 3-Man Basketball - Spring 1991 e. 1991 Spring Wallyball f. Saturday Volleyball Open Gym 1990-91- g. Racquetball - Summer 1991 h. Sand Volleyball - Summer 1991 i. Fantasy Baseball - 1991 j . Soar with the Eagles Football Clinic - 1991 k. Adult Tennis - Summer 1991 1. Doubles Horseshoe League - 1991 m. Co-Rec Volleyball - Winter 1991 n. Adult Tennis - Spring 1991 ( These are information items only. -r 1, 1 j APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Nov. 18, 1991 -4- Helling introduced Elise Kastigar, former Adaptive Recreation Specialist, who was promoted to the position of Aquatics Supervisor. 2. Adaptive Rec Specialist ' s Program Ending Reports Summer 1991 a. Explorers b. Adaptive Swim Lessons c. D.A.S.H.E.R. d. Walking Club e. E-Z Sports f. Integration Summary These are information items only. VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Karpinko moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:45 p.m. Lynch seconded the motion and it passed 6-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary ' .. _. • i j. A APPROVED MINUTES FACILITIES NEEDS STUDY COMMITTEE Monday, November 18, 1991 8: 00 p.m. , City Hall I. INTRODUCTIONS Pat Richard introduced Mayor Doug Tempas who spoke on behalf of the City Council and thanked the group for attending the meeting. Richard introduced Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources. II. REVIEW PURPOSE OF COMMITTEE AND PROCESS A. Purpose of Committee w 1. Review and Question Existing Data 2. Provide Input and Opinions on Various Needs and Priorities 3. Assist with Cost Estimates 4. Make Recommendations on Priorities Within That Particular Subcommittee Lambert said that the purpose of the committee should not be a long process. The work of the subcommittees should be completed in four meetings from now through January. The purpose of the committee is to study the facility needs in the City by reviewing and questioning data, providing input and opinions on various needs and Priorities, assisting with cost estimates and making recommendations on priorities within the particular subcommittee. B. Process 1. Initial Meeting November 18 2. First Subcommittee Meetings Week of December 2 or 9 3. Second Subcommittee Meetings Week of January 6 or 13 4. Final Meeting January 20 - Report Back to Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission The initial meeting is tonight and the first subcommittee meeting should be held the week of December 2 or 9, the second meeting January 6 or 13 and the final meeting on January 20 which will be reporting back to the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission. APPROVED MINUTES FACILITIES NEEDS STUDY COMMITTEE Nov. 18 , 1991 -2- III. DEFINE SUBCOMMITTEES A. Neighborhood Park Acquisition and Development B, Trails C. Community Recreation and Athletic Facility Needs (ice arena, swimming pool, ballfields, etc. ) D. Community Park and Open Space Acquisition and Development Lambert said that the subcommittees would be divided into four different areas: neighborhood park acquisition y and development, trails, community recreation and athletic facility needs and community park and open space w • acquisition and development. Lambert defined a neighborhood park as one being located within a one-half mile radius of a neighborhood. Rice Marsh, Crestwood and Cedar Forest still need to be developed. Examples of neighborhood parks include Franlo, Homeward Hills, Edenvale, Nesbitt and Wyndham Knolls. This subcommittee will also look into improvements for existing parks. The subcommittee on trails will include both recreation and transportation trails. Connections on trails along County Roads 1 and 4, Prairie Center Drive and Dell Road to Lake Riley and Homeward Hills need to be completed as well as several trails located in creek areas. The City has also received requests to improve the trails near Round Lake and Lake Riley parks. The subcommittee on community recreation and athletic facility needs will include the need for an ice arena, swimming pool and additional ballfields. The subcommittee on community park and open space acquisition and development will include several areas in the City which are to be preserved in their natural state. IV. REVIEW OF EXISTING GENERAL INFORMATION ON NEEDS IN EACH AREA A. Park and Open Space Flan 1. Neighborhood Parks 2. Trails 3. Community Parks and Athletic Facilities 4. Open Space Preservation i i APPROVED MIINUTES FACILITIES NEEDS STUDY COMMITTEE Nov. 18, 1991 -3- B. Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Lambert said that both the Park and Open Space Plan and Capital Improvement Program should be reviewed prior to the first subcommittee meeting. It is expected that these reports will be updated in the near future. V. BUDGET LIMITATIONS AND FUNDING SOURCES Lambert said he feels that the total needs will come to approximately $15 to $20 million. The maximum funding from a bond referendum woujld be $4.5 million in 1993, $2.2 million in 1995 and $4. 5 million in 1996. He discussed different methods of funding that are also available. Lambert explained cash park fees and how they work in developing neighborhood parks. Other methods of funding include tax increment financing, grants and donations. VI. DIVIDE INTO SUBCOMMITTEES FOR PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING MEETING C DATES AND TIMES AND SELECTING A CHAIRPERSON TO WORK WITH STAFF LIAISON Lambert asked the group to indicate their interest in participating in a particular subcommittee by a show of hands. Interest level was as follows: Neighborhood parks - 1 Trails - 7 Community park and open space acquisition and development 2 Community parks and athletic facility needs - remainder There will be two separate subcommittees formed, one for the community parks and athletic facility needs and one combining neighborhood parks, trails and community park and open space acquisition and development. Lambert said that the City Council will be the final decision- maker by recommendation from the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission. Lambert asked for any questions from the group. It was asked if there is a budget figure established. Lambert said to assume it is zero. APPROVED MINUTES FACILITIES NEEDS STUDY COMMITTEE Nov. 18, 1991 -4- Lambert was asked if a park bond referendum can be divided into more than one question. Lambert said yes, but it does not seem to work well with the yes voters. Jim Swezey said he does not understand why current facilities are not being replaced as needed rather than adding new facilities. Lambert said there is a maintenance policy in place, but it needs to be expanded because of the rapid growth of the City. Helling asked Lambert to explain how the recommendation of the committee will be explained to the general public and what the public' s input will be. Lambert said that if the City Council agrees with the recommendations made by the committee, they will approve it. However, if they feel that it is representative of the needs of only some of the community, they may decide to do a random sample survey. It was asked what the committee' s position will be to support the bond referendum if the City Council approves their recommendation. Lambert said he feels that a spring referendum would interest those persons who participate in summer sports. A public information meeting would be held trying to gain community support of a referendum. VII. TENTATIVE DATE TO REPORT BACK TO WHOLE COMMITTEE JANUARY 20, 1992 VIII. ADJOURNMENT At 9: 00 p.m. the group divided into the two subcommittees to set up the next meeting date. Lambert requested that the meetings be scheduled for Wednesday or Thursday evening if possible. Respectfully submitted, 111 a-11 �Gt/ Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary