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Parks and Recreation - 02/04/1991 _-:... �. w.. .�i�_. .�....._.. �.iu..• r..:...�.�r ... S _,.(t._:4 u3.,...�..^Y.��......�. Fi,...i ..�L M, 1991 FEBRUARY 4 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA C ' EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1991 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS: Raiford Baker, chairperson; Karon Joyer, Paul Karpinko, David Kuechenmeister, Pat Richard, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JANUARY 21 1991 IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. RNuest from Banizu F. C. to Use Eden Prairie Soccer Fields B. Pglition for Hikewav/Bikeway Along CSAH #1 from Spoon Ridge to Bennett Place C. Request from Camp Eden wood Re; Community Center F V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Cub Foods B. KMSP C. Amoco VI. OLD B- NESS A. U12date on Garden Club VII. NEWBUSI� A. Entry Monuments for Major Center Area VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONFR AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks recreation & Natural Resources 1. Consideration of Revision to the Park Use Ordinance a. Adult Alcohol Use at Warming Mouses or on Ice Rinks b. Private Garbage Being Dumned in Public Trash Rece ac,les 2. Evaluation of Outdoor Rink Hours and Policies I Discussion Regarding Consideration of Student Ad Hoc Members on the Parks Recreation and Natural Resources Commission B. Rgports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources �s 1. Tax Forfeited Lands r; C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services 1. Season Ending R"rts a. Men's Senior Hockey - Fall 1990 IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL X. ADJOURNMENT agenda/1 ?PROVED MINUTES C : EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, February 4 , 1991 7: 30 p.m. , City Hall 7600 Executive Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bud Baker, chairperson; Karon Joyer, Paul Karpinko, Pat Richard (late) , Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: David Kuechenmeister COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of . Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources; Barb Cross, •� Landscape Architect; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services ; Dave Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7 :30 p.m, by chairperson, CBud Baker. J II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Cross added VII . B. Staring Lake Amphitheater Storage Building. MOTION: Joyer moved to approve the agenda as amended. Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JANUARY 7, 1991 ' MOTION: Joyer moved to approve the minutes as printed. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Petition for Hikeway/Bikeway Along CSAH #1 from Spoon Ridge to Bennett Place Refer to memo dated January 30, 1991 from Barb Cross, Landscape Architect. 1 1 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -2- Cross introduced Michelle Grindall who was at the meeting representing the residents in the Bennett Place-Spoon Ridge neighborhood. The City received a petition from the residents requesting a trail along Co. Rd. 1 from Bennett Place to Spoon Ridge. Cost of the trail would range from $20,000 to $47 ,000. The $20,000 cost would be if the City crews did the work and the $47,000 cost would be using outside contractors, purchasing additional right-of-way from Olympic Hills Golf Course and moving the existing chain link fence. Cross added that there is no money available to install this trail in 1991 and she suggests adding it to the 1992 budget. This trail is considered number one on the priority list which is based on speed of traffic, site distances, whether the trail is a connecting link to the neighborhood, if the residents have submitted a petition and if the trail has been on a previous bond referendum. MOTION: Richard moved to recommend that the trail along Co. Rd. 1 from Bennett Place to Spoon Ridge be built as soon as possible when funding is available. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. Request from Banqu F.C. to use Eden Prairie Soccer Fields Refer to memo dated January 30, 1991 from Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services. Helling said that staff received a request from Larry Werner, Club Director of the Bangu F.C. to use the City athletic fields for their 1991 season. Staff recommends denying the request because of overuse of the fields. Richard asked if the group would be allowed to hold tournaments over the weekend. Helling said it would not be allowed because the policy is not to allow use by a private organization or business for profit. MOTION: Joyer moved to recommend denial of the request by the Bangu F.C. per staff recommendation. Richard seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -3- C. Request from Camp Edenwood Re• Community Center Fees Refer to memo dated January 29, 1991 from Dave Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor. Lambert introduced Tom Gode who was present at the meeting representing Camp Edenwood. Camp Edenwood has requested group home status and a 50% reduction of Community Center membership fees. The membership would be used for 300 residents and six staff members for open swimming. Lambert said that in 1981 the Human Rights and Services Commission recommended that resident senior citizens be granted a 50% discount and the handicapped residing in Eden Prairie group homes be considered a family and given a 50% discount on Community Center family memberships. Lambert said that Edenwood is not a group home, but is a year-round camp offering trips, summer camps and weekend respite programs. Staff is recommending offering Edenwood a 50% discount on a family membership to be used by the staff and the residents would pay the daily user fee for open swim. Gode defined the respite program Edenwood offers to its residents and said that these would be the people using the facilities. Lambert added that Camp Edenwood was formerly Camp Indian Chief and it is located on the Eden Prairie- Minnetonka border. Richard asked if the City needs additional staffing when the residents are at the Community Center. Gode said that there is usually one staff person per resident so this is not a problem. Richard asked if other City facilities are being used by Camp Edenwood. Gode said that they use Round Lake often and have been swimming at the Community Center for two years. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -4- Lambert indicated that we have not had any problems with their programs, and that we encourage their use of our facilities and recognize the great service they provide the metro area, including Eden Prairie. MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to recommend that Edenwood be offered a 50% discount on a family membership to the Community Center and that the daily user fee be wavied, as ARC provides a valuable service to families in the Twin Cities who are in desperate need. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. i. w V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Cub Foods Refer to staff report dated January 25, 1991. Cross reported that this site is located in the northeast corner of W. 78th St. and Prairie Center Dr. The developer is requesting a zoning change, site plan review and preliminary plat. Two variances are necessary because the setback will be less than 35 ' and for the runoff to go to Anderson Lakes would require extending the storm sewer and the construction of a storm water pond. the Commission discussed different styles of entrance monuments, the first of which will be constructed on the east building wall of Cub Foods. Cub Foods supports this idea and is willing to construct the wall and gateway monument. The wall, which would enclose loading areas , is 50 ' x 181 . Richard referred to the wooded outlot on the west side of the site and asked if the City had any interest in acquiring it for parkland. Cross said that it will be developed by Cub Foods in the future. The Commission discussed the landscape plan and questioned whether there would be sufficient plantings to screen the building. Lambert said he did not feel it would be unreasonable to request to see a profile of the landscape plan. He added that staff could make a plan with their recommendations on where future flower bed plantings should be located and submit it to Cub Foods. •1 w Ma APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4 , 1991 II -5- f6. I: MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of Cub Foods with the requirement that a landscaping plan be submitted to the Commission prior to the second reading. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. KMSP Refer to staff report dated January 11, 1991. Cross reported that this site is located in the northeast quadrant at the intersection of Prairie Center Dr. I and Viking Dr. There are no existing trees and the sidewalks are already in place. The only concern was the height of the tower. It was compared with other towers in the area and found to be comparable. Baker asked what the tree replacement requirement is for areas that do not have existing trees. Cross said r there are screening requirements. The Commission discussed several residential areas in the City that have very few, if any, trees. They talked about the possibility of a requirement for homeowners similar to the one for businesses. ! MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of KMSP Corproate Headquarters per staff recommendation. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. C. Amoco Cross reported that this site is located at Edenvale Crossings which is east of Mitchell Road and north of McDonald' s and Mexican Village. The PUD was approved earlier, but the site plan was not completed at that time. MOTION: Joyer moved to recommend approval of Amoco per staff recommendation. Richard seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. i _ •a+ t APPROVED MINUTES i.. , t EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -6- VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Update on Garden Club Lambert said that Rod MacRae had provided a summary of the January 14 meeting which was included in the packets. There will be one-fourth page in the spring catalog inviting interested residents to attend the April 9 meeting. The two initial projects for the club will be wildflowers and the garden site at Round Lake Park. Joyer added that the Historical and Cultural Commission might be interested in being involved in this program in order to beautify the historic sites in Eden Prairie. Baker suggested that not only the Historical and Cultural Commission, but also the Planning Commission and City Council , should be made aware of the program by giving a presentation to them at one of their meetings. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Entry Monuments for Major Center Area Refer to memo dated January 25, 1991 from Don Uram, Planner. The Commission briefly reviewed the design options for entrance monuments to the major center area when discussing Cub Foods. After reviewing the options more closely, they agreed that the best design was the glass block using colored back lighting which could be changed. MOTION: Richard moved to recommend that the City Council pursue the back-lit glass block design with changeable lights. Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. t B. Staring Lake Amphitheater Storage Building i . Cross said that there is $17, 000 in the budget to construct a storage building at Staring Lake. It was suggested that the building be constructed on the stage which would not only make it easier to store equipment, but also serve as a backdrop and sound barrier. Cross showed the Commission a model of the type of building a APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 i -7- that is planned. She did not know what the cost of the building would be. Lambert said that construction of the building would not begin until the concert series is over in August and should be completed by October. MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to recommend the construction of a storage building at the Staring Lake Amphitheater incorporating the design recommended by staff. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources 1. Consideration of Revision to the Park Use Ordinance a. Adult Alcohol Use at Warming Houses and on Ice Rinks Refer to memo dated January 29 , 1991 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources. Lambert said that the only two parks where alcohol is prohibited are Prairie View and Forest Hills. Staff does not recommend changing the ordinance at this time because there have not been many problems. b. Private Garbage Being Dumped in Public Trash Receptacles Refer to memo dated January 29, 1991 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks , Recreation and Natural Resouces. Lambert said that household garbage has been dumped in public trash cans at City Parks. Much of it seems to have been from remodeling and includes carpeting, etc. Staff recommends that ordinance be reworded to include specific i language addressing this issue. 1 f: 'APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -8- MOTION: Richard moved to recommend thatithe ordinance be changed to include that household trash cannot be deposited in public trash receptacles. Karpinko seconded the motion. On call for discussion, Karpinko asked if there is a set fine for disobeying the ordinance. Lambert said the City does not have authority to do this, but a judge would set a fine based on each incident prosecuted. Vanderploeg suggested that signs be placed on public trash receptacles clarifying this ordinance. The motion passed 4-0. 2. Evaluation of Outdoor Rink Hours and Policies Refer to memo dated January 29, 1991 from Lyndell Frey, Recreation Supervisor. Lambert said that a complaint was received from a resident who did not feel that Eden Prairie was being fair with the amount of ice time that is available for youth skating. The resident came to the Round Lake rink on January 18 with his son and could not skate because of adult broomball. The person proceeded to skate anyway and had to be escorted off the ice. The Commission reviewed the current hours of rinks availability, weekly total of hours available and exceptions to current usage. Baker asked how long Friday nights have been set aside for adult broomball makeup games. Helling said this has been the policy since broomball was started at least ten years ago and is the least used time of public skating or Hockey Association practices. Baker said he feels the same type of evaluation should be done for both adult and youth usage of other facilities in the City and sent to this individual. f C' .APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -9- Richard asked if there have been other complaints on this issue. Helling said she was not aware I , of any in the last five years. Richard asked if there have been complaints in other areas that require documentation on usage. Lambert said no. Lambert said that some youth coaches complains bout the quality of the fields at other parks compared I �' to Round Lake, but reminded the Commission that the adults came to the City Council several years ago and offered to be charged additional money each year to pay for irrigation , lights and fences. The adult teams are paying for their facility's improvements with the increased team fees. Richard said he feels that we are rewarding one individual ' s very immature behavior by providing him with all of the information to justify our actions. 3. Discussion Regarding Consideration of Student Ad Hoc Members on the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Refer to memo dated January 30, 1991 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks , Recreation and Natural Resources. Lambert feels that students on the Commission should be treated like a regular Commission member except they would not be allowed to vote, and would not affect the number needed for a quorum. MOTION: Joyer moved to recommend that two student ad hoc members be added to the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission for a term of one year beginning in either their sophomore or junior year. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. i B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources 1.Tax Forfeited Lands �. Refer to memo dated January 16, 1991 from Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources. ' ._. .. �..... ... .. ... .. .,.:.......,-_........._. .. ......... ..yr n-.. ............_-........�. .....'..........+J.r .w.n. .rv....... .sir.rr .s.x ..i.s4u nur.v..a.,..........,.�,...rv.....n.......,...._._.w�� '�I�' w' r, APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. tG NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Feb. 4, 1991 -10- This is an information item only. C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services ' 1. Season Ending Reports a. Men ' s Senior Hockey - Fall 1990 ' This is an information item only. IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL There was no report. X. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Richard moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:25 p.m. Karpinko seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary