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Parks and Recreation - 09/17/1990 r ......_ ...... , ,.�.,.::'J?r._ )",z.t....,.. .�..... � ..,.'.1 ._..... ..... 4..0 �..�..:.. .... 'S Sw"!!T. l.. 1.nt4Yit�`^f ....it.uw-naltrt•u+.nw r 1 f. 1• 1990 S N SEPTEMBER 17 I TES 1�1I hTT.J CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE I 1 ... r '. �i �.. •, ... .ti ;... .: "I� \ � , l 1 iJ\a1J,�. .:H +� ?I f 'F...G t t+. t AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1990 7:30 P.M. , CITY BALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS: Raiford Baker, chairperson; Karon Joyer, Paul Karpinko, David Kuechenmeister, Pat Richard, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 20 1990 IV. RETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 1. Eden Prairie Assembly of God Church 2. Donnay's Edenvale & Donnay's Edenvale II 3. Hedcmist Addition VI. OLD BUSINESS I .. None VII. NEW BUSINESS 1. Playground Equipment for Carmel Park & Red Rock Lake Park VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks Recreation & Natural Resources 1. Reminder of September 20 Minnesota River Valley Tour B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources 1. U2date on Mitchell Lake and Red Rock Lake z, C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services 1. Introduce David Black Community Center ORerations Supervisor 2. Introduce Laura Hinton. Adaptive Recreation Supervisor IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL 1. Report of September 4 1990 Council. Meeting X. AWOURNMENT AGENDA/I t._ �' t APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1990 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Raiford Baker, chairperson; Pat Richard, Paul Karpinko, Del Vanderploeg COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Karon Joyer, David Kuechenmeister COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services I. Roll CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m by chairperson Baker. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA The agenda was approved as printed. C� III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 20, 1990 MOTION: Motion by Richard, seconded by Karpinko to continue approval of the minutes to the next regular meeting. Motion passed 4-0. IV. gETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 1. Eden Prairie Assembly of God Church - As there were no representatives of the Eden Prairie Assembly of God Church in attendance to present the development proposal, this item was continued until later in the meeting. 2. Donnay's Edenvale & Donnay's Edenvale II - Cross summarized the Donnay subdivision request and indicated that this is a replat of two previously approved platted areas that provides lesser density and improves a tree preservation grading plan. f 1 approved Minutes �. Parks, Recration & Natural Resources Commission September 17, 1990 MOTION: Motion by Vanderploeg, seconded by Richard to approve Donnay's Edenvale and Edenvale II Addition. Motion passed 4-0. 3 . Hedquist Addition - Frank Cardarelle explained that the Beckman Estate will be sold no matter what happens with this development. He reviewed the proposal that had preliminary approval in 1983 showing a five lot subdivision, each of the five lots approximately 22,000 square feet in size. This previously approved concept plan required massive grading and tree loss. He also showed several other platting schemes that have been considered and then reviewed a plan that was approved by the Planning Commission. The plan approved the Planning Commission could have anywhere between 23% and 35% tree loss according to Mr. Cardarelle. The developer would commit to planting 87- 90 trees on the site as per a planting plan reviewed by the Commission. Cardarelle indicated that this site is heavily wooded and has steep grades to the east and north, although, �- the grades will only fall approximately 10' from the back of the house to the front of the lot as proposed. There would be significant grading required for digging in the sewer line to the north down the hill. The developer is proposing a scenic easement over a significant portion of the site. Cross reviewed the plan and stated the concerns of the planning staff and the parks, recreation and natural resources staff. A tree loss on the site could be anywhere between 23% and 52%, depending in the size of the pads and how the houses are sited on those lots. The planning staff compromised and agreed to recommend bonding for a 37% tree loss. Barbara Kaerwer and her husband Howard own approximately 7 acres of land east of this site since 1949. Mrs. Kaerwer indicated they had donated nearly 2 acres of land to the City in 1976 for park wildlife refuge purposes. The Kaerwers are concerned by the concept plan approved by the City in 1983 since it pushed building pads down the hill and forced major grading and tree loss. Mrs. Kaerwer proposed a revised plan from what had been approved by the Planning Commission that 2 :-Approved Minutes Parks, Recration & Natural Resources Commission September 17, 1990 would reduce the width of the private driveway area and require the flag lots take access off one private driveway. This would allow moving the homes further up the hill and significantly reduce the number of trees required to be removed from this site. Mrs. Kaerwer suggested that the developer then dedicate a 50' wide strip of land behind the lots to the City for permanent wildlife protection, and if the developer committed to dedicating the 50' and the City approved the revised plan as proposed by her, she and her husband would dedicate an additional 50' of property from their site, making the wildlife refuge strip 100 ' wide. This wildlife refuge strip would connect to the other property previously dedicated by the Kaerwers, as well as the marsh that had been dedicated with the Cardinal Creek Subdivision and could possibly provide a future trail access to that area. Pat Richard asked how wide the private drive would be in comparison to a regular City street. Cardarelle answered the private drive I ; would be 24 ' wide, compared to a regular 28' wide City street. Cross indicated the planning staff had reviewed that and recommended the 24 ' wide private drive, which is similar to other flag lot private driveway access roads. The Commission members asked several additional questions of Mrs. Kaerwer, as well as Cardarelle regarding tree preservation, scenic easements, and the need for public access to this site. Cross indicated that public access to the site would come from the park and open space system plan trail connecting Topview Park to Forest Hills School via the NPS dedicated property. MOTION: Motion by Richard to approve the initial proposal reviewed by the Planning Department with the modifications as reviewed and proposed by Barbara Kaerwer recognizing that the modification with the donation from the Kaerwers are contingent upon approval of the shortening of the cul-de-sac, the 24 ' wide shared private road, and the donation of the land by the developer. Seconded by Karpinko. Motion passed 4-0. VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS 3 approved Minutes Parks, Recration & Natural Resources Commission September 17, 1990 1. Playaround E-cmi2ment for Carmel Park & Red Rock Lake Park Approximately 25 residents from the Carmel Park area were in attendance to review a slide presentation on the various types of playground equipment available for neighborhood park use. Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect, discussed the pros and cons of the various types of playground equipment and the cost of playground equipment in comparison to the $10,000 limit set for neighborhood parks. A number of residents asked questions regarding the difference between wood playground equipment and metal playground equipment. The majority of the residents believe there ought to be a minimum of 4 swings (2 toddlers and 2 regular) and there ought to be several "diggers" and small bouncing animals to accommodate to large number of young children in the neighborhood. Several members of the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission suggested that the combination wood and metal platform playground equipment seems to provide more play value for the money. The majority of the residents agreed. The Commission then directed staff to develop Cspecifications for the playground equipment for Carmel Park and send out a photo or representation of the type of equipment the City will attempt to obtain through the bidding process for this park to residents in the neighborhood. Residents were encouraged to initiate fund raisers, etc. if they were interested in providing additional funds for development of their playground site. Cross indicated that although the City will obtain quotes this fall, the playground equipment may be put in late this fall or early next spring. Cross reviewed the play equipment selection and review process with the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission and recommended a revised review process. Baker agreed that the City should have control over the selection of the playground equipment and not simply leave it up to a check list. MOTION: Karpinko moved to accept the revised review process. Seconded by Richard. Passed 4-0. 4 ti approved Minutes Parks, Recration & Natural Resources Commission September 17, 1990 VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks. Recreation and Natural j . . Resources 1. Reminder of September 20 Minnesota River Valley Tour - Lambert reminded the Commission members of the September 20 Minnesota River Valley tour. Karpinko indicated he would not be able to attend. B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources 1. Update on Mitchell Lake and Red Rock Lake - Lambert reviewed the memo provided by Stuart Fox regarding the status of Mitchell Lake and Red Rock Lake. Lambert indicated that Mitchell Lake would be stocked during the fall. of 1990 and aerated over the winter. Red Rock Lake would most likely be treated in 1991 and stocked in the fall of 1991. C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services 1. Introduce David Black, Community Center Operations Supervisor - Laurie Helling introduced David Black, the new Community Center Operations Supervisor. Mr. Black gave a brief background on himself and indicated that he was very excited about this new career opportunity. 2. Introduce Laura Hinton. Adaptive Recreation Supervisor - Laurie introduced Laura Hinton, the interim Adaptive Recreation Supervisor. Laura replaced Beth Gerstein as the interim Adaptive Recreation Supervisor until the end of 1990, at which time the City will be interviewing for a full-time position serving Eden Prairie only. Laura serves in the same capacity as Beth Gerstein, half- time for the City of Eden Prairie and half- time for the City of Edina. Both the City of Edina and the City of Eden Prairie are budgeting for full-time staff to replace that position for 1991. IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL Lambert reviewed the action of the City Council at the September 4th meeting. 5 7` 41, _.._.__ ...__... .. .........,.,..__._�_._ '..,._..: ,. _.......... ...u.>,i,-...,. ,,.:,...a.,..•a.-.uu.c- a r..,,....w....� approved Minutes Parks, Recration & Natural Resources Commission September 17, 1990 X. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Karpinko moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:30 p.m. Seconded by Vanderploeg•. Motion passed 4-0. Respectfully Submitted, Robert A. Lambert Recording Secretary sept17/10 ;i C 6