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Parks and Recreation - 09/19/1988 . i.. ........ ...... ..... ... .� ....... .. 1._.a�...y .1 1988 SEPTEMBER 19 MINUTES . N pRAI'PTE r CITY OF EDE , AGENDA C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1988 8:00 P. M. CITY HALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson ; Raiford Baker, Moe Cook , Karon Joyer , Brian Mikkelson, Pat Richard, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources 6:30 P. N. SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RE: SOUTHWEST AREA STUDY 8:00 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 15, 1988 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS 8:05 Letter From Duane Janikula Re: Staring Lake Park Plan V. DEVELOPMENT PLANS 8:10 A. Chestnut Place Neighborhood Commercial Center s 8:25 B. Fairfield Phase 2-6 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:40 Acquisition of Access Site for Purgatory Creek Recreation Area VII. NEW BUSINESS None i VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Environmental Services Manager 8:45 Rules & Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery B. Reports of Recreation Supervisors 8:50 1. Community Center Monthly Report 8:55 2. Review of Riley Lake Park Usage_ - Summer 1988_ C. Reports of Athletic Coordinator f _ 9:05 Sand Volleyball - Summer 1988 9:10 IX. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 9:15 X. ADJOURNMENT t C. i i :r APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, September 19, 1988 8:00 p.m., City Hall 7600 Executive Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bud Baker, acting chairperson; Moe Cook, Pat Richard, Charles Shaw COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Brian Mikkelson, Karon Joyer COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources, Barb Cross, Landscape Architect I. ROLL CALL • The meeting was called to order at 8:00 p.m. by acting chairperson, Bud Baker. . 11. APPROVAL OF AGENDA There were no additions to the agenda. Ill. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 15, 1988 r MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as printed. Richard seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Letter from Duane Janikula Re: Staring Lake Park Plan Refer to memo dated August 31, 1988 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources. Lambert said this property is directly west of the fly-out zone of the north runway at Flying Cloud Airport. The City discussed with Mr. Janikula his Illegal storage of property. At that time, Mr. Janikula asked the City about development potential and was told this area would be used for parks in the future. The property is now for sale and the City is interested in purchasing it. An appraiser has been hired and his report will be brought to this commission at the October 4 meeting. No action is required at this point. f Shaw asked if there is a risk that someone else will purchase this property and use if for another purpose. Lambert said yes. V. DEVELOPMENT PLANS A. Chestnut Place Neighborhood Commercial Center Refer to planning staff report dated August 19, 1988 and memo dated September 15, 1988 from Barbara Cross, Landscape Architect. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Sept. 19, 1988 -2- Brian Cluts was at the meeting representing Chestnut Place Partners. The site is located at the intersection of Chestnut Drive and Anderson Lakes Parkway. This is mainly a multi-family neighborhood and It is expected that one-half the traffic into this center will be pedestrian. The plan Is for a convenience stores with gas pumps, a Vietnamese restaurant and perhaps a video store and dry cleaners. Several revisions have been made to the plan in the past week. Cross said the plan was approved by the Planning Commission. The pedestrian system is already in place. A concern the Planning Commission had was that vehicle traffic and pedestrian traffic would conflict. The developer has added a sidewalk in the south parking lot and two sidewalks off Anderson Lakes Parkway trail. Since the site is flat, minimal grading will be necessary and there are no significant trees on the site although the developer will be providing 126 caliper inches of plant material as required. MOTION: Cook moved to approve Chestnut Place Neighborhood o�ercial Center per staff recommendation. Shaw seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. Fairfield Phases 2-6 Refer to planning staff report dated August 19, 1988. Phase 1 of this project was reviewed at the July 18 meeting. The developer is now asking for approval on Phases 2-6. They are asking for concept plan approval and guide plan change. Richard asked if it will be difficult to change our minds later if the concept plan is approved. Lambert said that if there are any problems or concerns with the request, now is the time to discuss it. MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of Fairfield Phase 2-6 per staff recommendation. Shaw seconded the motion and It passed 4-0. V1. OLD BUSINESS A. Acquisition of Access Site for Purgatory Creek Recreation Area Refer to memo dated September 1, 1988 from Bob Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources. Lambert suggests that the north site consisting of 5.5 acres would be the preferred site. The cost is $2.50 per square foot or approximately $630,000. >'4 .APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMM. Sept. 19, 1988 C -3- MOTION: Cook moved that after studying the Purgatory Creek Recreation Area since 1982, the commission supports acquisition of this property and development of this park in the future. Richard seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. VII. NEW BUSINESS None Vlll. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Reports of Environmental Services Manager 1 . Rules & Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery MOTION: A motion was made by Shaw to adopt the Rules and Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. Reports of Recreation Supervisor 1 . Community Center Monthly Report Refer to memo dated September 12, 1988 from Tom Eastman, Supervisor of Operations. This is an information item only. Baker referred to several numbers listed under Operating Expenses which do not agree. Lambert said he would have them checked. Tom's suggestions for reducing the deficit at the Community Center include going to an on call basis for part time staff whenenver possible and discontinuing turning over the net profits from concessions during the holiday hockey tournament to the Hockey Association. 2. Review of Riley Lake Park Usage - Summer 1988 Refer to memo dated September 2, 1988 from Jennifer Dressen, Recreation Supervisor. This is an information item only. C. Reports of Athletic Coordinator 1 . Sand Volleyball - Summer 1988 This is an Information item only. IX. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 There was no report. 1.:.., .v.,4 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, REC. & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 19, 1988 C -4- I I, X. ADJOURNMENT i MOTION: Cook moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 p.m. Shaw i. seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary i SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RE: SOUTHWEST AREA STUDY Monday, September 19, 1988 6:30 p.m. u• The meeting began at 6:40 p.m. A presentation was made by Don Brauer who is the coordinator for the Southwest Area Study project. He is being assisted by Jim Benshoof and Steve Pellinen. Mr. Brauer showed the location of subject area on an area map. He said the area is almost all undeveloped at this time and Is under the influence of several road systems. The area begins within the City limits near Dell Road on Hwy. 5, down County Roads 1 & 4, to the edge of Flying Cloud Airport to the west portion of the City and back again and lies within the MUSA (Metropolitan Urban Services Area). The MUSA line is determined by the Metropolitan Council. The circles on the map represent areas programmed for development and the squares represent existing development. The map also showed projected sewer and water lines and traffic projections. Brauer showed figures both if the Hwy. 212-Dell Road interchange takes place or if it does not. Before any development can be started in this area, a water main loop needs to be connected and the intersection at Heritage Road needs to be improved in addition to improvements at Scenic Heights Road and Co. Rd 4 and an upgrade on three intersections along Co. Rd. 1 and an upgrade of Co. Rd. 4. For each section of the project, Brauer showed roadways, water main location and drainage and sanitary sewer lines. The following are questions from the group in attendance at the meeting and Mr. Brauer's answers. Q: Are there improvements planned for the intersection of Hwy. 5 & Co. Rd. 4? A: This upgrade is scheduled for completion in 1990. Q: Nothing south of Hwy. 5 was mentioned. Why? A: This area is outside the MUSA line and not included in this study. Q: Where does Hwy. 212 go from Eden Prairie? A: Hwy. 212 goes west of Chaska and connects with Hwy. 41 and Co. Rd. 17. Q: When will it be determined where Hwy. 212 will be built? A: It is in the final stages of the EIS (environmental impact statement) . Q: When will official mapping be approved by the City of Eden Prairie? A: It should be done this fall. Q: In the 2B area, the road shown coming off Pioneer Trail does not exist. A: This Is only a platted street. Q: You stated that the Dell Road and Hwy. 5 intersection upgrade Is a pre-requisite to any development although the report states that a maximum of 100 units can be built before this upgrade needs to be done. A: I was referring to Improvements to the Co. Rd 4 and Hwy. 5 intersection. i4 SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION -2- CQ: Has any thought been given to upgrading the intersection of Co. Rds. 4 & 1 earlier because of the school being built in this area? A: The City has officially asked the county to upgrade Co. Rd. 4 at Co. Rd. 1 and Scenic Heights Road. Q: When will the alignment of Dell Road be established? A: It will be decided by the City and the developer. Q: How were the number of units established in each area? A: The guidelines are 2.14 units per acre inside the MUSA line and 1 .5 units per acre outside the MUSA line. Q: When Co. Rds. 1 & 4 are improved, are signals being considered, as well as turn lanes? A: Yes. Q: Who controls the decision on traffic lights? A: The county makes the final decision. Q: Is Chanhassen also holding back on development because of the traffic problems on Hwy. 5? A: I do not believe so. Brauer said the next phase of the study is discussing the assessment of street costs. This will most likely be discussed at a City Council meeting, but no date has been set. Lambert asked if much thought has been given to extending Riley Lake Road. Brauer said he feels this would be important, but not essential. Q: Has any decision been made for improving Hwy. 169 from the airport to Co. Rd. 1? A: This project will go out for bids in March of 1989. Q: Is there any specific time when these areas will be developed? A: We are only suggesting the order of development. Q: Does the Williams Pipeline affect any of these plans? A: There will not be as much density in those areas through which the pipeline runs. Q: Will there be any changes in the MUSA line? A: The study did not take any changes into effect. The water main will be constructed concurrent with developing Area 1A. Brauer commented that there should be two outlets in Area IA after there are 250 residents for safety reasons. Q: Will the building of Cedar Ridge School depend on the construction of the water line? A: Yes. Q: Where will the lift station in 2B be built and when? A: The lift will be constructed near the stream and up to Valley Road. Q: Does the area north of Valley Road require a lift station and how deep is the sewer line? A: The sewer will be 60 feet deep at Co. R d. 1 . it 'F SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION -3- C Q: What is the status of athletic fields at Co. Rd. 1 and Eden Prairie Road? A: (Lambert) This issue will be before the Parks and Recreation Commission and Planning Commission in mid October. Q: Would development at Flying Cloud Aiport have any effect on this plan? A: The airport is looking at expanding the east-west: runway and expanding to 300 hangars. There will be an open forum in mid October to discuss this issue. Bob Hallett said the following meetings will be held. November 2: Airports Commission Forum; November 7: Parks & Recreation Commission; November 14: Planning Commission and November 15: City Council. Q: Why would a runway be extended? A: For safety reasons. Q: What is the next phase of the study? A: It will be reviewed by the commissions, City Council and City staff and should be before the Planning Commission at the October meeting. There has already been action taken on the water mains on Co. Rds. 1 & 4, upgrading of Co. Rd. 4 at Hwy. 5 and upgrading of Co. Rd. 1 . Q: When sewer and water is added, who is assessed for this? A: Those that benefit from it will be assessed. C The meeting concluded at 7:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, a.tti Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission