Parks and Recreation - 12/15/1986 ._.., .. ., ."..._..' .__ r r.sa._.:1:.,�.I..�.rw_;��.v�..�T.J'. .,..,..:.ti✓... ,.,1,.....,.��..:}Lr'Y,:.�.....�.,.1,� _...,...)� .n.(.WIL Y .�,.,ti...f+.=swrvm`en, .,e�rw.�w °:a,
iJ
1986
DECEMBER 15
MIN- UTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1986 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION
BUILDING - BOARD ROOM
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Moe
Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson,
Charles Shaw
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 17, 1986
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
7:35 A. Letter to Snowmobile Owners from Captain Jim Clark
B. Proposed Donation of Barn from Browns
V. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF
CA. Reports of Commission Members
7:40 Park Bond Referendum Committee Update - Moe Cook
B. Reports of Director of Community Services
7:45 1. Five Year C.I.P. and Revenue Projections
7:50 2. Status Report on Purgatory Creek Trail Systems
C. Reports of Recreation Supervisor
8:00 Flyer on Winter Recreation Special Events
D. Reports of Athletic Coordinator
8:05 1. Men's 3-Man Basketball - Fall 1986 Season Ending Report
2, Touch Football - fall 1987 Season Ending Report
3. Open Gym Programs 1985-86
4. Women's Volleyball - 1986 Season Ending Report
5. Senior Men's Hockey - Spring 1986 Season Ending Report
6. Co-Rec Broomball - 1986
r-
1
7. Men's Volleyball 1985-86
8. Co-Rec Volleyball 1986_
8:10 E. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report
G. City Council Meeting Report - November 18, 1986
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
8:15 B. Officially Naming Parks and Facilities
8.30 C. Polite on Park Reservation Fees, Rules, Etc.
8:45 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
i
i
I �
APPROVED MINUTES
C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, December 15, 1986 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson;
Bud Baker, Moe Cook,
Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Gonyea, Charles Shaw
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson,
Pat Breitenstein.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Cook moved to approve the agenda as mailed. Mikkelson
seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NOVEMBER 17, 1986
MOTION: Mikkelson moved to approve the minutes as mailed. Baker
seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. Joyer abstained.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter to Snowmobile Owners from Captain Jim Clark
Refer to letter dated September, 1986 from Captain Jim Clark.
Mikkelson said he will report on this at the next meeting after he
has talked to Jim Clark.
Cook mentioned an article in this week's Sailor which discusses the
rules for snowmobiling in Eden Prairie.
B. Proposed Donation of Barn from Browns
Refer to memo dated December 9, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services.
Lambert said the actual size of the barn is 32' x 421 . The barn is
very well built. Cost to move the barn to. Homeward Hills Park
would be about $5,000 plus $4,000 to $5,000 for wiring since four
lines would need to be dropped. The structure could be insulated
and heated in the future �1hioh would make it useful for many
different functions. Lamheii recommends the City acquire the barn,
as the Brown's would like a decision by year-end.
i
'APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE? PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Dec. 15, 1986
-2-
Baker asked if moving the barn to Miller Park instead would help
with the bond referendum. Lambert said the barn would not be
appropriate at Miller Park.
Baker noted that the various athletic associations are in need of
space to store their off season equipment and asked if the loft
could be used.for this reason. Lambert said he arefers to leave
the loft as a large open space area for recreation programs and
does not feel this would be the most secure place to store expensive
equipment.
Cook referred to the memo which mentions a "relatively large
warming house" He asked if the barn would be large enough.
Lambert said the barn is about the same size as the one at Round
Lake and he feels the barn will be one of the best warming houses
in the City.
Cook said he feels it would be a i....;
good idea to have plans made
regarding the barn prior to moving it. Lambert said this would be
done.
MOTION: Joyer moved to recommend that the City acquire the Brown
a�and move it to Homeward Hills Park. Mikkelson seconded the
motion and it passed 5-0.
V. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF
1 A. Reports of Commission Members
1. Park Bond Referendum Committee Update - Moe Cook
Cook said there was a good update in this week's Sailor. There
have been two neighborhood meetings so far. Two more will be
held this week, one at the Preserve and one at the Community
Center. The issue will be brought before the Parks and
Recreation Commission at the January 5, 1987 meeting.
Baker asked for clarification on outdoor skating rinks.
Lambert reviewed the rink at Preserve Park which is used mainly
for hockey. Plans are to provide a hockey rink, skating rink
and warming house at Red Rock Park. The idea is to have such a
facility within a two mile radius of housing developments and
where there is a high demand. These facilities will not be
included at Miller Park at this time until there is more
development in the area. At that time, it will be funded by
cash park fees.
Mikkelson asked about th- possibility of additional handball
and racquetball courts at the Community Center, as it is very
/f difficult to reserve a time and said it is his understanding
1.
f
'APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Dec. 15, 1986
-3-
that because of the other courts in the City, they are on hold.
Lambert said they are waiting to see what affect the private club !,
courts will have on the Community Center.
Baker commented that the racquetball courts are making money
and he does not feel it is a good idea not to add them just
because they want to stay at the $7.91million number on the
referendum. Lambert said the cost of each court is between
$60,000-$80,000.
rt.
Mikkelson added that Court 3 is in very poor condition and is
dangerous to use. Lambert said it is checked daily and
sometimes not even reserved for use. Mikkelson also said that
some repairs, such as replacing door knobs, needs to be done.
B.' Reports of Director of Community Services
1. rive Year C.I.P. and Revenue Projections
Lambert said that the capital improvement program is updated on
an annual basis and outlines plans for the next five years.
This report is required in order to be eligible for state and
Cfederal funds. The report was written as if the bond
referendum had been approved.
Cook questioned the total figure in the local 1988 column.
Lambert explained that the $270,000 figure is without the bond
referendum and the $520,000 figure is with the bond referendum.
MOTION: Baker moved to recommend acceptance of the C.I.P. per
sta=recommendation. Cook seconded the motion and it passed
5-0.
2. Status Report on Purgatory Creek Trail Systems
Refer to memo dated December 5, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director
of Community Services.
At the last City Council meeting, the Council asked for a '
summary of the trail system. This information will be given to
them at tomorrow night's meeting. Lambert reviewed the
recommendations on Purgatory Creek.
Baker feels that the same type of study should be considered
for Riley Creek. Lambert said it is not in the 1987 budget.
Lambert showed a site plan of the Purgatory Creek trail system.
The committee discussed to some length the trail plans for the
area.
Iv
-APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Dec. 15, 1986
-4-
Cook suggested the Commission go and look at the area as a
group. Lambert will set a date for a Saturday morning in
February.
MOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of the Purgatory
Creel system report and Welter site per staff recommendation
with the exception of trails south of County Road 1 until the
site is toured by the Parks and Recreation Commission and also
to restrict the ability for motorized vehicles to enter the
system. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
C. Reports of Recreation Supervisor
This is an information item only.
1. Flyer on Winter Recreation Special Events
This is an information item only.
D. Reports of Athletic Coordinator
1. Men's 3-Man Basketball - Fall 1986 Season Ending Report
2. Touch Football - Fall 1987 Season Ending Report
3. Open Gym Programs 1985-86
4. Women's Volleyball - 1986 Season Ending Report
5. Senior Men's Hockey -_Spring 1986 Season Ending Report
6. Co-Rec Broomball - 1986
7. Men's Volleyball 1985-86
8. Co-Rec Volleyabll 1986
MOTION: Baiter moved to recommend acceptance of the Athletic
Coor nator's reports. Mikkelson seconded the motion and it
passed 5-0.
E. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report
This is an information item only.
It was decided that the repo"c Will no longer be included in the
packets unless there is some information that is of special
interest to the Commission.
14
h
A.
�•r
APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCE COMMISSION Feb. 2, 1987
-9-
C. Reports of Athletic Coordinator
1. Season Ending Reports
a. 3-Women Basketball - Fall 1986
b. Table Tennis - Fall 1986
c. Men's Hockey - Fall 1986
d. Racquetball - Fall 1986
e. Co-Rec Volleyball - Fall 1986
These are information items only.
MOTION: Shaw moved to recommend approval of the
recommendations made in the reports. Joyer seconded the
motion and it passed 7-0. 1
VII. OLD BUSINESS
None
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Ordinance Regulating Use of Alcohol in Parks
Refer to memo dated January 23, 1987 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services.
Lambert said this issue is being discussed because of the liability
involved and the size of the problem. As examples, he cited the
annual spring parties by Bloomington kids which are held at Staring
Lake every year and the fatal accident which occured after a vo-
tech party last year. Lambert said he feels allowing no alcohol
whatsoever is not Justified, but he recommends that beer and wine
only be allowed and no kegs without a permit.
A discussion followed regarding use of strong beer versus 3.2 beer.
MOTION: Joyer moved to recommend that the City draft an ordinance
to allow 3.2 beer and wine only in City parks and no kegs without a
permit. Shaw seconded the motion and it passed 7-0.
APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Dec. 15, 1986
-5- I
F. City Council Meeting Report - November 18, 1986
At the November 18 meeting the Council approved proceeding with the
EAW on the Edenvale trails and continued a decision on the bridge.
At the present time, a narrow mowed trail will be provided for
walking only.
At the December 2 meeting the Council approved the acquisition of
Miller Park at a cost of $336,000 and continued a decision on the
Welter site.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Officially Naming Parks and Facilities
Refer to memo dated December 3, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services.
Cook recommended naming neighborhood parks after the neighborhood r
name and other parks after their location.
After reviewing the parks in question, i.e. Franlo Park, Prairie
East Park, Homeward Hills Park, Lake Eden Park, Red Rock Park,
Willow Park, Carmel Park, Hidden Glen Park and Edenbrooke Park, the
Commission decided to leave the names as is on all but Prairie East
Park and Red Rock Park.
i
Baker suggested that the Outdoor Center be renamed Staring Outdoor
Center.
MOTION: A motion was made by Baker to table a decision on renaming
tz� a parks and Outdoor Center until the next meeting. Mikkelson
seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
MOTION: Cook moved to recommend that the procedure for naming
parrs 6e that neighborhood parks are named for the neighborhoods in
which they are located and other parks are named after the park
access street. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
B. Policy on Park Reservation Fees, Rules, Etc.
Refer to memo dated December 3, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services.
The Commission reviewed all points of the proposed updated facility
use permit form. All items were agreed to with the exception of
the amount of the damage deposit and whether to charge all groups
who wish to reserve the facilities.
APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Dec. 15, 1986
-6-
MOTION: Cook moved to recommend that Eden Prairie public service
groups not be charged to use the facilities, but that the churches
continue to be charged. The $50 damage deposit will be forfeited
if the rules as outlined on the form are not adhered to. Mikkelson
seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Joyer made a motion to adjourn at 9:35 p.m. Cook seconded the
motion-and it passed 5-0.
`Respectfully submitted,
Lois Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary i
C
t