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Parks and Recreation - 10/20/1986 i I, 1986 OCTOBER 20 MIN- UTES i CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE .I %. AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1986 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING - BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. A?PROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 15, 1986 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 7:35 A. Research Farm 3rd Addition 7:45 B. Shady Oak Ridge 2nd Addition C 7:55 C. Super America VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Reports of Commission Members None B. Reports of Director of Community Services 8:00 Bond Referendum Committee Meeting of Sept. 23 and Oct. 9, 1986 8:05 C. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report VII. OLD BUSINESS Edenvale Trail Update VIII. NEW BUSINESS Outdoor Ice Use by Hockey Association of Eden Prairie IX. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, October 20, 1986 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Bud Baker (late), Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Stu Fox, City Forester; Sandra Werts, Recreation Supervisor; Lyndell Frye, Recreation Supervisor I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA i MOTION: Joyer moved to approve the agenda as mailed. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1986 j MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as mailed. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 3-0. Gonyea abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None r V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Research Farm 3rd Addition i Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of , Community Services and staff report dated September 19, 1986. 1 Fox reviewed the proposal which is part of the old Northrup King a site. The developer is requesting platting of 116 acres into one lot and three outlots. The major reason is that the school has purchased one lot. Arlyn Grussing of the Douglas Corporation was present at the s meeting. The school has purchased three acres as the site for a new middle school and the Douglas Corporation's corporate headquarters and factory will be located on the rest of the site. The Douglas Corporation is the main supplier of name plates for Ford and General Motors. I , i 1' APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Oct. 20, 1986 -2- I Grussing indicated there would be office buildings along Hwy. 169 with the manufacturing facility and corporate headquarters located in between. He added that there will be a substantial amount of open space. Only 30 of the 65 acres will be developed. Grussing said that the Douglas Corporation headquarters is currently located at Washington and Valley View with other facilities in St. Louis Park, Minneapolis and Bloomington. Fox said that there have been no changes or additional grading since the 2nd Addition was approved. The City is asking for dedication of Outlot A for park purposes and a scenic easement on the east side of the creek. Grussing added that the school has reservations about the dedication to the City, but they will agree to it. He also said that Douglas prefers to delay the scenic easement unti). they begin development. Cook asked if there was a reference in the staff report to the ownership of the Purgatory Creek area. Fox said it is yet to be determined; however, there will be ownership west of the creek and a scenic easement east of the creek. CMOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of Research Farm 3rd A tion per staff report based on the establishment of a scenic easement. Gonyea seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. Shady Oak Ridge 2nd Addition Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff report dated September 19, 1986. Fox said that this is an extension of Shady Oak Ridge 1st Addition and is located south of that area. The main consideration is the extensive amount of tree inventory. The developer will be required to replace a substantial amount of caliper inches of trees and to extend the sidewalk that is proposed along Shady Oak Road southward to Rowland Road. Cook asked if there are any alternatives to removing the large amount of trees. Fox said that if any additional trees are lost, they will have to be replaced by the developer. Joyer asked if a snow fence is effective in marking grading limits. Fox said it is better than putting ribbon on the trees and added that grading will be closely supervised. Cook said that erosion control during construction will be a problem. Fox said that this is a condition of the staff recommendation. ,j 14 . . C APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, R13CREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Oct. 20, 1986 -3- MOTION: Gonyea moved to .recommend approval of Shady Oak 2nd AdUlto-n per staff report adding that special attention be paid during the grading process that no major erosion occurs. Joyer seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. C. Super America Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff report dated October 3, 1986. Fox reviewed the request for a comprehensive guide plan change from fire station to commercial. The area is located on the old Prairie Dairy site. The only parks, recreation and natural resources concern is the loss of the current 81 trail. Part of the staff recommendation is that the 8' asphalt trail be replaced. Cook asked if there would be any problems with the bike path in this location. Fox said there should not be a problem although the developer will have to rework some of their berms to accommodate it. Cook asked if there would be an entrance to Super America off Hwy. 169. Fox said all entrances will be off Pioneer Trail. Baker asked if kids will be able to cross Hwy. 169 easily on their bikes. Fox said the trail is along the south side and they will have to cross with the lights on both Co. Rd. 1 and Hwy. 169. Baker said he feels the City Council should be able to see a diagram of the trail with the new landscape plan. Fox said that part of the staff recommendation states that the landscape plan will be modified to indicate these changes. MOTION: Baker moved to recommend approval of Super America per staff report contingent upon the developer submitting a modified landscape plan showing the location of an 81 asphalt trail. Gonyea seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Reports of Commission Members i None B. Reports of Director of Community Services 1. Board Referendum Committee Meetings of Sept. 23 and Oct. 9 1986 This is an information item only. APPROVED MINUTES C ' EDE1V PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Oct. 20, 1986 -4- Fox said that the minutes of the Bond Referendum Committee Meetings of both September 23 and October 9 were included in the packets. The main purpose of these meetings was to look at alternatives and finalize costs. The original figure was $10 million. Lambert recommended cutting back to a realistic figure. He suggested trying to reduce the Community Center expansion from $5 million to $3 million and Miller Park from $4.7 million to $2.5 million for a total bond referendum of $6.5 million. Cook said it should be noted that certain projects can be done with park money instead of a bond referendum. C. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report This information was included in the packets and is for information only. VIII. OLD BUSINESS A. Edenvale Trail Update Refer to memo dated October 15, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. Fox reported that there was an October 7 meeting with the City Council. Five steps of action were taken: (1) It was recommended that the City begin mowing along the top of the interceptor line along the east side of the creek; (2) It was agreed that when the City develops the open water marsh area as mitigation for Valley View Road, a nature blind and access trail will be constructed. Breitenstein asked if this rerouting would have an effect on the golf course. Fox said no. (3) City staff will work with a naturalist to study the marsh area on the west side of Purgatory Creek and to develop a written program; (4) A decision on the installation of a bridge at the end of Hillcrest Court was delayed; (5) Continued the decision for the EAW request. Cook asked for an update on the railroad crossing at Valley View. Fox said that construction east of the railroad can be considered Phase I and should be completed this fall or early next spring. There is also an underpass for the golf course scheduled for completion. Baker asked about the impact on the Purgatory Creek marsh. Fox said that the DNR and Watershed District are monitoring this closely. Baker requested that the Commission be updated on this at future meetings. S/ �f APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Oct. 20, 1986 -5- VIII. NEW BUSINESS A. Outdoor Ice Use by Hockey Association of Eden Prairie Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Sandy Werts, Recreation Supervisor. Sandy Werts was present at the meeting to review the percent of ice time reserved and used by the Hockey Association during the 1985-86 season. Attendance was based on an average of 66 days open along with total hours open, ages of players, total and average daily attendance. Werts said the attendance fluctuates. The season this year was longer and the rinks had to be closed fewer times because of weather. It was the first time Staring Lake was open on a daily basis and the attendance here varied. Werts recommended that the Staring Lake rink be closed Monday-Thursday and be open on Fridays from 4-10, Saturdays from 10-10 and Sundays from 1-9. Nine to 11 hours per week were reserved by the Hockey Association. Hours reserved but not used ranged from 5 to 14%. About half of the coaches called in to cancel. Werts said she received less comments from the public this year. The Preserve Rink is still a problem since the pond is not good for skating. Werts added that there will be a rink at Homeward Hills next season. Baker commented on behalf of the Hockey Association. Since the younger kids are scheduled early and the older kids later, it is always the same ones that have to clear off the rink after a snowfall. He asked if there is any mechanical equipment the Hockey Association could purchase to clear off the rinks. Fox suggested that a two stage snowblower would work well. Baker asked what the schedule is for flooding and sweeping the rinks. Werts said they usually start at Round Lake and The Preserve is usually at the end of the line. Baker asked if it could be done on a daily basis. Werts said they generally flood every day. Baker asked if they have considered doing it during the night. Werts said it is done during the night on weekends. ! MOTION: Baker moved to recommend approval of the report. Joyer seconded the motion. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Oct. 20, 1986 -6- I . On call for discussion, Cook asked if the days the rinks are open could be published. Werts said the rink attendant ;has the i schedule. Cook felt that since there are so many new residents in the area, it would be helpful to have it listed in the Eden Prairie Happenings. The motion passed 5-0. IX. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Baker moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:30 p.m. Joyer se— coed the motion and it passed 5-0. �4 Respectful`ly�submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary t { i