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Parks and Recreation - 09/16/1985 .�� �.,,. .: .,-a;c,<.:... ,.. ,!`� ..,.ae J.: ., :T:�!,..,� ....,.•. ... .....:^��f.� ,..._,,,...�..,. i.,.,�.Y�xlm�,_m CxJ���.v..an.ara, w.n rt i i 1985 , SEPT E 16 milNur."LES, N PRAIE CITY OF EDEII%.I AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 1985 7:30 P. M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING - BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 19, 1985 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 7:35 A. Eden Pointe Apartments 8:00 B. Fill Deposited at Highway 169 and County Road 4 C- VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Report of Director of Community Services 8:20 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Application for FY 1986 B. Reports of Superintendent of Recreation 8:25 1. Monthly Status Report of Community Center 8:30 2. Cahill Silent Auction/Request for Community Center Membership C. Report of Athletic Coordinator 8:40 Adult Tennis League Season Ending Report � ! 8:45 D. City Council Meeting Report VII. OLD BUSINESS 8:50 A. Comprehensive Park Plan - Public/Private-Recreation Chapter 9:05 B. Policy on Company Usage of Eden Prairie Athletic Fields C VIII. NEW BUSINESS 9:10 Trail Along Purgatory_ Creek - Edenvale 9th IX. ADJOURNMENT r APPROVED MINUTES �. EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, September 16, 1985 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Bud. Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook, Jerry Kingrey COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Gonyea, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Kingrey added Item B, Tree Cutting on Edenvale's Old Office Site under VIII. New Business. Lambert added Item 3, Master Swim Meet under B. Reports of Superintendent of Recreation. Breitenstein moved to approve the agenda as amended. Kingrey seconded Cthe motion and it carried 5-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 19, 1985 MOTION: A motion was made by Kingrey to approve the minutes as mailed. Cowseconded the motion and it carried 5-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Eden Pointe Apartments I Refer to staff reports dated August 9, 1985 and September 6, 1985. j Lambert introduced John Berkeley from Ruman Consultants. Berkeley reviewed the site plan which is located in the southeast part of the City on 15 acres. There are 143 units proposed in 15 buildings. The buildings will each have 15, 16 or 17 units. Some will have tuck-under garages and there will also be free-standing garages. Berkeley said the site is low near the pond area and slopes down from Homeward Hills Road to County Road 1. The development will be situated parallel to the slopes. Grading will be most severe in the berm areas of the site. , APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -2- Maximum fill. on the site will be 10 to 12 feet with a general cut of two to four feet. The buildings will be three stories high and will be tucked into the hillside. The only trees on the site are next to the pond and are approximately 12 years old. Staff requested that 430 caliper inches would be required, but the developer is providing 800 caliper inches in their plan. Berkeley added that an 8' pathway would be built along County Road 1 to the Mill Creek townhouse development. Baker asked the planned location of the trail along County Road 1 from Homeward Hills to the east. Lambert said it is located on the south side up to Franlo Road. At this point, the Commission members briefly discussed other paths and trails in the surrounding area. --,, Jessen asked Berkeley to elaborate on internal circulation on the site. Berkeley said that the internal 6' path connects to the external path. He showed its location on the site plan. I C Berkeley discussed the water management plan saying that catch basins would be located at 400, intervals and water will drain to a detention area in the southeast corner of the site. Lambert said that he did not include a supplementary staff report since there were no further issues to discuss. He said that Homeward Hills Park will serve this area adequately and feels that the developer has done a great job on landscaping plans and the proposed trail system. Lambert said that residents of the Mill Creek Townhomes have been requesting a trail connection for several years. He feels there will not be a trail connection to Franlo Road for several years due to lack of funding. The only negative comments about this development have come from the people north of Homeward Hills Road because this will be an apartment complex with renters. Jessen said that the staff report doesn't show the 800 caliper inches the developer proposes to add. Berkeley said that the number has been updated since this report. Cook asked if a cash park fee would be paid. Lambert said yes. Kingrey asked what would happen if the county did not give the City the right to keep the trail when the road is widened. Lambert said that this won' t happen for many years in the future, but his opinion is that since the county has given their approval for all trails so far, when County Road 1 becomes a four lane road, the ( bike trail will be included in the plan. r / APPROVED MINUTES l EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -3- Jessen said he feels that it would be worth finding out about how the county feels and requested that Lambert do so. Kingrey expressed concern about the street crossings near this development and what will be done. Lambert said that this area will be treated the same as others in the City. Kingrey asked what the age range of residents will be. Berkeley said they will be young or "empty nesters" since the rent on one bedroom apartments will be about $500 and rent on two bedroom apartments will be about $800. He feels there will be very few families. Berkeley added that about 70% of the site will be open space. Kingrey asked how many trees around the pond area will have to be removed. Berkeley said none would be removed. MOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of Eden Pointe Apartments per staff report. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. B. Fill Deposited at Highway 169 and County Road 4 Refer to staff report dated August 23, 1985 and letter dated September 4, 1985 from Jean Johnson, Zoning Administrator, letter dated August 26, 1985 from the DNR and letter dated August 21, 1985 from the Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed District. Lambert introduced Sever Peterson who was present at the meeting to discuss approval of a grading permit which was allowed on 0.4 acres east of County Road 4 in conjunction with the Lion's Tap rezoning. The actual fill in the floodplain was approximately 2.2 acres and was done without prior approval from the Watershed District and the City. This issue was delayed by the Planning Commission pending the receipt of further information. Jessen asked what specific kind of information was being waited for. Peterson said they are waiting for the results of a study by the DNR and Watershed District regarding the implications this fill could have on flood storage. Jessen asked Peterson if his driveway was a boundary of the two watershed districts. Peterson said he doesn't know. / APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -4- Lambert asked if Peterson had received approval on the Watershed District for the filling of 2.2 acres. Peterson said that an engineer from the Watershed District had come out to the site and told Peterson he could "fill to here". Jessen said he would like to know if the Lower Minnesota River Watershed District had approved the filling of the 2.2 acres previously. Kingrey said he understood that part of the fill would be used for the straightening of County Road 4. Peterson said he assumed the same thing and thinks that eventually it will be. Cook asked if this issue has anything to do with the burial grounds along the river valley that were discussed at an earlier meeting. Lambert said no. Peterson said that he wanted the Commission to know that City staff has been very diligent in bringing this issue to the various boards. CJessen asked Lambert to find if the 0.4 acres is going to be acquired by the county. Kingrey referred to the paragraph in Jean Johnson's memo which states, "In exchange for not being required to remove fill and to bring the property into conformance with the original permit, the parties have agreed to abide by the decision resulting from the new permit" and felt it was rather difficult to understand. Lambert had the same feeling and will look into it further. MOTION: A motion was made by Breitenstein to table the discussion of t�fill deposited on County Road 4 and Hwy. 169 until a future meeting. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Community Services 1. LAWCON/LCMR Grant Application for Fiscal Year 1986 Refer to memo dated September 3, 1985 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and letter dated August 20, 1985 from Minnesota Department of Energy and Economic Development. Lambert reported that the requests for funding for athletic field improvements at Round Lake Park and the acquisition of 25 acres at Riley Lake Park were not approved since the ranking ( was not high enough. Lambert said that they have changed the review process. The major changes are that the Metro Council no longer reviews the requests and they have developed a new form that gives each item points. K i •r '. .. ..-,. .... :. .. . ,. .,.,, .,.: ...r ... ...._ ..._.._'.. ! ... ,.._..:...., .. ,. r... r .ter a..0 ..•. .... ,...,I,r 1....... ,..Y^ ✓ n..t.,.v w.. i .. I. (" APPROVED MINUTES \ EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -5- Jessen said he questions the criteria by which applications are rated with the new point system. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend that Staff write' a letter T-6 —ma-rk Dayton with a copy to other appropriate persons asking them to review the criteria used for this point system. The letter could be signed by the mayor. The motion was seconded V by Breitenstein and passed 5-0. B. Reports of Superintendent of Recreation 1. Monthly Status Report of Community Center This is an information item only. 2. Cahill Silent Auction-Request for Community Center Membership Refer to letter dated August 30, 1985 from Chuck Pappas, €' Superintendent of Recreation and letter dated August 13, 1985 from Kathleen Millberg. Lambert reported that the Cahill Elementary School uses the money from the fund raiser for their parent-teacher organization. Jessen asked if a policy could be created to approve one request per year from each of the three elementary schools rather than bringing each request to the Commission. MOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of the Cahill request aann —adding a policy that one request per year from each elementary school will automatically be approved. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. 3. Master Swim Meet I ' Lambert said that the Master Swim Group has requested to have a meet on Saturday, October 19, 1985. This meet would require that one hour of lap swimming be cancelled. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend approval of the Master Swim Meet. Baker seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. C. Report of Athletic Coordinator 1. Adult Tennis League Season Ending Report This is an information item only. 3 t C APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -6- Breitenstein said that she was asked why one or two tennis courts at Round Lake Park couldn't be left open to the public when the school is giving lessons at the other courts. Lambert said that there are plenty of other tennis courts in the City that are not being used and the school needs all eight courts for practice. Breitenstein asked how many tennis courts are in Eden Prairie. Lambert said there are 23 public courts. Jessen advised Lambert of grass growing through the tennis courts at Prairie View, weeds in the north softball field at Prairie View and grass in the trail along County Road 1. � • Lambert noted these items and will check into them. D. City Council Meeting Report There was no information available at this meeting. VII. OLD BUSINESS A. Comprehensive Park Plan - Public/Private Recreation Chapter Lambert said that this section is a summary of public versus private recreation areas in Eden Prairie. He discussed the subject of golf courses saying that it is felt that one or more of the three golf courses will. dissolve eventually -- Cedar Hills first and very likely the north nine holes at Edenvale. He said he feels the City should consider a public golf course. A discussion followed on possible locations for a new public golf course, but Lambert did not feel he could inquire about these areas since he has not received direction from the Council. Cook asked if horseshoe pitching should be included in this section. Lambert said horseshoe pitching was included in the section on parks and open space. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend approval of the PuPrivate Recreation Chapter of the Comprehensive Park Plan. GIfc� Baker seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. B. Policy on Company Usage of Eden Prairie Athletic Fields Refer to memo dated September 11, 1985 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and memo dated August 13, 1985 from Stu Alexander, Athletic Coordinator. Lambert said he would like the Commission to review the proposed form which spells out conditions of the permit which is also the policy. He added that he would like both the permit and the priority uses approved. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Sept. 16, 1985 -7- Jessen asked if the non-profit: organizations in Eden Prairie shouldn't be a higher priority than the companies, churches and vo- tech. Lambert agreed that these organizations should be #4 on the priority list. Cook questioned the wording in Item 3 of the conditions of permit. Lambert said that the sentence "The City will not reserve any athletic facilities prior to City or School". . . should read, "The City will not reserve any athletic facilities until the City and School". . . Cook also noted that MPI did not sign the permit. Lambert said perhaps it was not signed because they did not pay a fee. It was felt the permit should be signed in all instances. Jessen asked about insurance liability. Lambert said there is no change in insurance coverage. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the athletic fa—c-i'lity use permit with the additions and changes indicated above. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 5-0. C VIII. NEW BUSINESS A. Trail Along Purgatory Creek - Edenvale 9th Refer to memo dated September 12, 1985 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. This is an information item only. B. Tree Cutting on Edenvale's Old Office Site Kingrey said he is concerned with the trees he has seen being removed at various times from the area on Valley View west of Edenvale. The last one was a 40' fir and the others were various hardwoods. Lambert will find out why these trees are being removed. Baker commented on the road work on Preserve Boulevard and asked if the City was aware of the fill being put into Eden Lake Park. Lambert said staff is aware that this is being done. IX. ADJOURNMENT MOTION• Baker moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Cook seconded t e motion and it passed 5-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary