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Parks and Recreation - 04/20/1998 � i 1998 April 20, 1998 t. Minutes Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE v) AGENDA PARKS,RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAV,APRIL 20,1998 7:00 P.M.CITY CENTER 8080 MITCHELL ROAD COUNCIL CHAMBERS f COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Brown, Chair; Frantz Corneille, Claire Hilegman, Don Jacobson,Vicki Koenig,Glenn Stolar,John Wilson i I STUDENT MEMBERS: Elizabeth Cook,Stacy Enger COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources;Stuart A.Fox,Manager of Parks and Natural Resources; Lactic Helling,Manager of Recreation Services 1. ROLL.CALL. II. APPROVAL.OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-APRIL 6,1998 IV, PETITIONS RFOLIFSTS AND COMMUNICATIONS tA. ReAuest for Goose Removal Permit 1 V. DFVF. .OPMF.NT PROPOSALS i A. Flyia Cloud Office Building 3 B. Settler's Ridge 9 VI. 01.D BUSINESS I A. VII. NEW BUSINESS a A. N1114 Vill. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parke Recreation and Natural Resources I, Rcrum America Certificate of •nvironment•al Achievement B. Reports of Community Center Manager I, IIVAC and Pool Filtration Systems Updair VIII. ADJOURNMENT I APPROVED MINUTES PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY,APRIL 20, 1998 7:00 P.M.CITY CENTER 8080 MITCHELL ROAD COUNCIL CHAMBERS COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Brown,Chair,Frantz Corneille,Claire Filgeman, Don Jacobson, Vicki Koenig,Glenn Stolar,John Wilson STUDENT MEMBERS: Elizabeth Cook, Stacy Enger COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A.Lambert,Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources, Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources, Laurie Helling,Manager of Recreation Services, and Barbara Anderson,City Recorder I. ROLL CA L.L. Don Jacobson,John Wilson,and Elizabeth Cook were absent. i 11. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION:Hilgeman moved,seconded by Stolar,to approve the Agenda as published. Motion carried 5-0. 111. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-APRIL.6. 1998 Koenig noted two corrections on Page 3, in the first paragraph,referring to a"grading plan'and the fence was to prevent people from"filling"into the NURP pond. MOTION: Hilgeman moved, seconded by Koenig, to approve the April 6, 1998 Minutes of the Parks, i Recreation and Natural Resources Commission as corrected. Motion carried 4-0-1. Stollar abstained. I IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Request for Goose Removal Permit Fox reviewed the staff report and outlined the request of Windsong Apartments for the goose + roundup,and noted the petitioner would bear all costs for the roundup. Bonnic Bell, 8501 Cortland, stated she lives above the apartment complex and she was wondering if the removal of the geese from the property was not an exercise in futility. She felt people lived in Eden Prairie to enjoy the wildlife and removing the geese was tantamount to a denial of that premise. She drove by the apartment complex and there were about four geese on the site. She felt that people had disturbed nature enough and she was opposed to removing the geese. She suggested perhaps further study was in order before granting the pennit. Koenig asked if the applicant had tried any deterrents and Fox responded they have tried a spray and Mylar tapes,but none of these have been successful. He has counted well over 200 geese on this site :i e I PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL. RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES April 20, 1998 age 2 last year and about fifty this year. This was on the Windsong complex only and did not include the hill to the west. If a permit is issued,only the geese on the Windsong property can be rounded up. Brown stated he had talked to a man whose daughter had been frightened by a goose flapping its wings on the site,but other residents did not appear to be bothered by the geese. It disturbed him because people want to have the wildlife and the wetlands but they complain about the geese,etc. Koenig commented the City had been trying to make it a viable wetland ar,-a and she was concerned that perhaps having so many geese there would deter other types of water fowl from coming into that area that they have been trying to attract. Fox commented it would cause ducks to go elsewhere because the geese are very territorial when they are nesting. Corneille asked about the costs for the roundup and Fox responded it would cost several thousand dollars. Koenig asked if they have made any attempt to clean up the area as she had not seen any goose droppings on the sidewalks. Fox responded he did not know. Hilgeman stated if the geese were interfering with the ability of Windsong to do business it would be a different issue because they have granted this type of request before for another business. Discussion ensued regarding the limited effectiveness of doing the roundup and efforts on the part i of the applicant to use other types of deterrents first. Stolar asked if the Commission would set a } precedent if they approved this request and Fox responded they have typically had only one or two ! requests for a goose removal permit per year, and most of these come from areas such as golf �. courses. It was one thing to request the permit and quite another to catch the geese when they are molting and flightless. ti Brown asked irWindsong had substantiated the numbers of apartments they could not rent and Fox . responded that was not information required on the permit. The problem is field verified to ensure there is a problem before proceeding with the permit process. j j MOTION:Filgeman moved,seconded by Corneille,to recommend approval of the relocation of the Geese from the Windsong Apartment complex site with the stipulation that the permit is issued for this year only. Motion carried 4-1. Brown voted"no". V. DEVELOPMENT PRQPOSALS A. JyinL Cloud Office Buddine Bob Sofblt, 10508 Bluff Road,representing Mount Properties,reviewed the project. Fie requested approval for the landscaping plan and noted they have proposed to replace the trees that will be lost due to the constriction at a ratio of 6 to 1. Fox gave the staff report and stated staff recommended approval of the plan subject to the stipulations in the Planning Commission staff report and the supplemental staff report. Koenig asked if they were / leaving any cottonwoods on the site and Fox responded it was dependent on the location of the �l parking islands as to whether the tree could be saved. Hilgeman asked if they could put tite cottonwood trees back into the landscape plan and Fox responded that they were not in an area where they would natively grow,but rather had sprouted because of fill that was placed on the property. ll PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES April 20, 1998 age 3 i MOTION: Koenig moved, seconded by Hilgeman, to recommend approval of the Flying Cloud Office building subject to the stipulations listed in the Planning Staff Report dated April 10, 1998 and the supplemental Staff Report dated April 15, 1998 Motion carried 5-0. B. Settler's Ride Dan Herbst,Pemtom Development Co.gave a brief overview of the project which he noted has been expanded to 112 acres in size. He described the landscape plan and the types of plantings that will be used in the various areas on the site. He discussed the plantings that will be used on the berms around the townhouse area to give it as much buffering from Pioneer Trail as possible. He discussed the various types of housing throughout the development and their locations throughout the site. He described the location of the few trees which had been designated as"significant". He reviewed the trail system within the development and how it will connect to other trails in the vicinity of this development. They are proposing a 6.6 acre parcel be dedicated to the City which will be part of the park dedication requirement. Fox gave the staff report and noted the tree loss was greater than what was in the staff report and the 221 caliper inches in mitigation listed in the staff report was exceeded. The tree mix will be multi- story to provide good screening. Tile NURP pond is so large that it is actually a series of inter- connecting ponds which discharge eventually into Riley Creek. This must be approved by the j Watershed District and the City Engineer. He discussed the park dedication required by staff from approximately below the 840 contour in lieu of cash park fees. The cash park fees will be collected on the entire site and the developer will be reimbursed for the 6.6 acres of land to be acquired by the City. Staff recommended approval based on the Planning staff report and the supplemental staff' reports included in the packets. Lambert discussed the land that the City owns adjacent to this site,and the 6.6 acre parcel the City hopes to acquire which is part of the project, and will fit so well into the Richard T. Anderson Conservation Area. The City has been negotiating with the developer to obtain this parcel as it is believed it is an integral part of this public park area. Access to the Conservation area needs to be available to the public and staff is recommending that access be provided from the north. This would consist of a 22'wide roadway which would come from the southern portion of the plat and proceed south to the top of small knoll where a small parking lot could be constructed. The developer has ; proposed some alternatives for the public parking lot within the development but staff felt that the parking lot should be within the park itself and not within the deve:upment. This access may have to be limited by placing hours on its availability because of its proximity to people's homes;possibly sunrise to sunset. Stolar asked about the property to the east and Lambert responded that when it was developed they hoped to make a connection from this development to Dell Road but it may not be feasible to build because of the large amount of fill which would be needed. However,the bike trail will be connected r to provide public access to Dell Road and the neighborhood park. Koenig asked if the trail within l the conservation area would be built before houses are constructed and Lambert responded that staff would recommend grading the access road in and have it ready to be paved so there will be no question on the part of future homeowners that a parking lot and trail will be located in that particular i� PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES r' pnl 20, 1998 age 4 area. This may be a problem as the City doesn't own the property at this time. MOTION: Hilgeman moved, seconded by Corneille, to recommend approval of Settler's Ridge proposal subject to the stipulations in the staff reports dated April 10, 1998 and the supplemental staff report dated April 16, 1998,including the letter of April 15, 1998 and including the trail in Outlot D. Motion carried 5-0. V. OLD BUSINESS None. VI1. NEW BUSINESS None. VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks.Recreation and Natural Resources l. Renew America Certificate of Environmental Achievement Lambert noted this was included in the packet as an informational item and required no action on the part of the Commission. Q. Reports of Community Center Manager I. HVAC and Pool Filtration Sy�.t me Update Lambert stated this was included in the packet as an informational item and required no action from the Commission. 1\. ADJOURNMENT t MOTION: Hilgeman moved, seconded by Corneille to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 5-0. The j meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p m.