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Planning Commission - 06/18/1974 AGENDA Tuesday , June 18, 1974 Planning Commission Minutes 7:30 PM City Hall Invocation - Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call PM 7:35 I. MINUTES OF TUNE 4, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. II. PUBLIC HEARINGS. PETITIONS & REQUESTS. Continuted from June 4, 1974. 7:40 A.Michael Adams, proposed townhouse development of 10 units located s north of County Road 1 and adjacent to the Olympic Hills Golf Course. Mr. Adams .is requesting rezoning from District Rural to Rm 6.5 in conformance with Ordinance 135. Suggested Action: Continue to July 2, 1974 Meeting. 7:50 B.L. H. Sowles, H. Mason, L. T. Mason, R.C. Leaman, P. Haglin, & M. Sill. PrairiePark Development . A 515 acre planned unit development comprising industrial, mixed residential, commercial and park land. The proposed PUD is located west of Co. Rd. 4, north of Co. Rd. 1 , south of Mitchell Lake. The owners are requesting approval of the Planned Unit Deva.opment in conformance with Ordinance 135 from the current zoning of Planned Study (PS) and Rural. Report by Planner regarding Council action as requested by Commission. Suggested Action: Approve, deny, or modify the proposed PUD. 8:15 C.Bruce Hubbard, proposed Mini-Storage warehousing project located north of Flying Cloud Drive in the Lake Smetana Sector. Requesting rezoning from Hwy-Com. & Rural to I-2 Park. The _ project was continued from the May 7, 1974 Planning Commission Meeting because of incomplete Sector Planning Study. Suggestd Action: Continue public hearing until July 2nd Meeting pending action on Lake Smetana Sector Study. (Special Meeting June 24, 1974 ) . 8:20 D.'Eden Farms PUD 73-01 The 185 acre site is located north of Co. Rd. 4; south of Townline Rd. and adjacent to Purgatory Creek. The Council requested consideration of rezoning of the PUD to Rural becaus e the tirmlimit ' for development has lapsed. Further report as to negotiations regarding possible extension of PUD 73-01 based upon Ist phase park development for neighbor- hood park. Suggested Action: Recommend to City 'Council rezoning, acceptance of park plan, or other alternatives, or continue. 8:45 E, J. Perkins, & C. Freeburg,request lot division from 2 lots to 3 lots on 2.96 acre site adjacent to the Willow Creek Subdivision at 7010 Willow Creek Road. The applicants are requesting preliminary plat approval for 3 lots each exceeding the minimum 22,000 sq. ft. required in Ordinance 135, Presentation by applicant and staff reports. Suggested Action: Approve, deny, or continue action on preliminary plat request. 9:20 F, Alex Dorenkemper, D.V.A. Miroc Development Company Crestwood 74 . The project is located south of Co. Rd. 1 and west of new Crestwood 73 Subdivision. Request is for street dedication and division of land into 11 parcels. Presentation by applicant and discussion and engineering planning report. Suggested Action: Approve, deny, or continue Crestwood 74. Agenda Planning Commission page 2 June 18, 1974 9:',S G. Clif:brdFraser, Crosstown Apartments a mid--rise and high rise rental apart- ment project of 600 units proposed on the previously approved Garrison Jones, Ginkel PUD 71-02 to RM 6.5 and PUD development stage approval . -Pre.5entation by applicant and preliminary staff report. Suggested Actioh: Continue to July 2, 1974 Meeting. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 10:30 A. COMMISSION MEMBERS REPORTS. 1 . Chairwoman Schee 2. Commission member Fosnocht- discussion d housing casts in Eden Prairie. 3. Commission member Meyers-Commercial Needs Study and/or Guide Plan revisions. 11:00 B.CITY PLANNER REPORTS. 1 . Crosstown Industrial Park planning status. 2. Request setting of public hearing date for final FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCE. 3. Up-date on Homart Eden, Prairie Center- parking, lighting, landscaping. 11:20 ADJOURNMENT. ' MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Tuesday , June 18, 1974 7:30 PM City Hall MEMBERS PRESENT: Lynch, Lane , Meyers, Sorensen, Fosnocht. MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairwoman Schee, Wayne Brown. STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnam, City Planner - Due to Chairwoman Schee's illness Mr. Sorensen chaired the Meeting - I. MINUTES OF NNE 4, 1974 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. P. 1, part I, last P should read . . . to approve the.May 21 , 1974 Planning Commission Minutes as published and corrected. P. 2, Ist P spelling of bedroom, and it should read . . 1 ,850 sq. ft. in the 2 bedroom unit and 2 ,050 sq. ft. in the 3 bedroom unit. P. 3, Ist P, should read . . . at a Council Meeting informing the City about Highway planning projects and that in her opinion there is a question of 212's future . P. 4, 4th P should read . . field variance ::had been approved, Lane moved, Meyers seconded, to approve the June 4, 1974 Planning Commission Minutes as published and corrected. II, PUBLIC. HEARINGS, PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. A. Michael Adams, proposed townhouse develcpmertof 10 units located north of County Road 1 and adjacent to the Olympic Hills Golf Course. • •Mr. Adams is requesting rezoning from District Rural to RM 6,5 in conformance .with Ordinance # 135. f The planner reported that at the June 11, 1974 Council Meeting the utility extension was defeated.. because the City attorney thought a 4/5 majority was needed. Further checking showed that the motion carried and the utilities will be considered at the next Council meeting. ' Because a topographic map had been received only that evening and no grade plan had yet been submitted the , staff has not throughly evacuated the project. McGlynn felt it would be premature to ask for a . , recommendation when utilities are not yet known . He briefly presented the topographic map and said that the grade plan should be to the staff soon allowing them ample time to review it. Lynch moved, Sorensen seconded to continue the hearing until after the utility hearing. The motion carried unanimously. B. L H Sowles, H. Mason, L J Mason, R.C. Leaman, P. Haglin, & M, Sill, i Prairie Park Development. A 515 acre planned unit development comprising industrial, mixed residential, commercial and park land. The proposed PUD is.located west of Co. Rd. 4, north of Co. Rd, 1, south of Mitchell Lake. The owners are requesting approval of the Planned Unit Developmert in conformance with Ordinance 135 from the current zoning of Planned Study (PS) and Rural. The planner informed the Commission that Mr. Mason was unable to attend the hearing. He then reviewed the projects background and request. He reported Planning Commission Minutes -2- June 18, 19i4 that Mascnrequested that if the Planning Commission felt action was necessary to take it but not to schedule it on the Council agenda until the second meeting in July. 0 Meyers moved, Lane seconded, to recommend to the Council denial of the PUD concept approval of Prairie Park based on the preliminary staff report of June.7, 1974, The motion carried unanimously. After discussion of Eden Farms Sorensen moved, Lynch seconded, to reconsider Prairie Park. The motion carried unanimously. Mr. Sorensen suggested that the motion be amended in include recommendation of denial. and rezone the property to Rural. The planner suggestedthat the motion should include � directing the staff to publish, notion of the rezoning. Sorensen moved, Lynch seconded, to publish a hearing notice for the rezoning of those parts of this property,from PS'to Rural. The motion carried unanimously. C. Bruce Hubbard, proposed Mini-Storage ,warehousing project located north of Fi yirgCloud Drive in the Lake Smetana Sector. Requesting rezoning from Hw" Com. & Rural to I-2 Park The project was continued from the May 7, 1974 Planning Commission Meeting because ' of the incomplete Sector Planning Study. The planner said that the project had been continued to this meeting because it was felt that there would have been a decision on the Smetana Lake Sector. Hfq had talked to Mr. Hubbard and it was agreed to continue the hearing until the July 2, 1974 meeting. Lane suggested that it be continued until the meeting of the 16th incase the Smetana Lake hearing is .continued. Lane_ moved, Meyers seconded, to continue the public hearing until July 16,1974 . The motion carried unanimously. D. Eden Farms PUD 73-01, The 185 acre site is located north of Co.. Rd. 4, south of Townline Road and adjacent to Purgatory Creek. The Council requested consideration of rezoning of the PUD to Rural because the time limit for development had lapsed. The planner said that the Park and Recreation Commission did not have a quorum. at their lagt meeting so no action was taken regarding ' Eden Farms, and --asked that it be continued until a decision by the Park& Recreation Commission is reached. Mr. Sorensen asked if there is a time limit for revoking the zoning. The planner said that there was not . Fosnocht expressed concern that perhaps Shelter does not care to reach an agreement. Meyers questioned if anagreement could be reached because of the variety of comments from the Park & Recreation Commission and audience at the meeting. Mr. Sorensen suggested that since there was no time limit perhaps the time should be taken to reach a decision. Lynch moved, Lane seconded, to continue the consideration of Eden ' Farms rezoning for 2 weeks. The motion carried unanimously. Planning Commission Minutes -3- June 18,1974 E. Perkins, & C. Freeburg, request preliminary plat approval for 2 lots into 3 lots 2.96 acre site adjacent to the Willow Creek Subdivision at 7010 Willow Creek Road. The applicants are requesting preliminary plat approval for 3 lots each exceeding the minimum 22,000 sq. ft. required in Ordinance 135, Mr. Sorensen as a resident and person with interest in the land disqualified himself from discussion and voting. However he did submit a letter to the Commission, staff, and Perkins & Freeburg in which he raised questions pertinent to the matter. Mr. Putnam. referred the Commission to material regarding the Perkins & Freeburg division which they had received in their packets. Mr. -Perkins stated that they are requesting division of lot B into lots B & C. Percolation tests show that the area can adequately handle sawage,the lots exceed the minimum lot size, very, few trees will be. removed, and the entrance to the Freeburg house is flexible. Mrs. Meyers asked if the lots all fronted on a public street_ Mr. Perkins replied that-lot A, (A & B were previously approved by the Council), does not have frontage. He had wished to dedicate the road to the City but a road to City width standards would be detrimental to the area. He said that it is possible. for all ' lots to front on Willow Creek Road prothervaise there could be an easement for lot B. • The planner felt that Brauer's did a good job in placing-ftie.homes, that care is being taken not to disturb the terrain and vegetation, and that the City personnel feel that .2 acre or larger lots would be welcomed in the City. Mrs MaPKunnon , a resident of the area, stated that a restriction upon the Land was that a lot had to.-- be 1 or more acres. At this time Mr. Sorensen- felt: it appropriate'for him to respond that such.'-restrictions, were privately enforced and that it would be improper for a governmental body to-enforce private restrictions and covenants. Mr. Larsen, of 7011 Willow Creek Road, said.that the lot division proposed would disregard the pattern.of the community and that the majority of the community is against it. He stated that at the April 30, 1974 meeting of the areas residents only 2 of the persons present had not been opposed to the division. MadKinnon felt that the. division definately violates the com;nunity's_ covenants and that .cars would have difficulty reaching the house on lot 3 . Mr. Perkins responded that.the Commission - considers laws- of Eden Prairie not . 'covenants of individual neighbhrftrj:>ds and that neither Brauees or the City staff raised issue with the driveway to the thixd house. It was Mr.- Larsen's wish that the Commission preserve the pattern 1 of the community. Mrs. Meyers noted that atleast 1 , perhaps 2, parcels will require private easements and asked if there are such examples in the City. The planner responded that there are examples in Willow Creek and other areas of the City . Planning Commission Minutes -4- June- I'3;1974 Mr. Sorensen, refer'ring"t`his letter, said that some of the l6 points in -his letter appeared to be at issue and require the interpretation of the . City attorney. Lane moved, Lynch seconded, to.recommend approval of the subdivision- as in the staff recommendations and attach Mr. Sorensen's letter for comment by the City attorney before the matter goes to the Council. The motion carried by a vote of 3 ayes., ( Meyers, Lane, Lynch and 2 abstains, ( Fosnocht, Sorensen),. F. Alex Dorenkemper, D.V.A. Miroc Development Company, •Crestwood 74. The project is located south of Co. Rd. 1 and west of new Crestwood 73 Subdivision. Request is for street dedication and division of land into 11 parcels. The planner stated that Mr. Dorenkemper was seeking division of Crestwood 74 into 2.25-2.5 acre lots in a Rural area where 5 acre lots are required. . He referred the Commission to the Engineer's report to which he was in agreement r and added that utilities are about 10 years off. Mr. Dorenkemper said that he was not asking for platting but '.rather for a variance from the 5 acre minimum lot size. Mr. Sorensen stated that from his discussions with Harlan Perbix, the City . attorney, that it was the attorney's opinion that Ordinance # 93 would apply regardless of whether subdivision or platting was requested. Mr. Sorensen, . then quoted from Section 3 of Ordinance # 93. Lane moved, Fosnocht seconded, to recommend denial of the Crestwood 74 request on the basis of the staff report.,of 6-18-74, and the previous Landhoid Agreement between the City and. Mr. Dorenkemper. The motion carried unanimously. G. Fraser, Clifford z Crosstown Apartments a.mid-rise and high rise.rental apartment. project of 600 units proposed on the previously approved Garrison4ones- Girikel PUD 71-02 to RM 6.5 and PUD development stage approval. Mr. Sicora architect for the project, presented the apartment proposal of 5, 9, & 16 story bLddings. The project-will have pedestrian plazas, 2 parking- spaces/ unit and _: parking provided underground. The access for the project can be modified along the area it is indicated and it will be worked out with adjacent properties. He sta-ted that they could provide the items requested in- Brauer's report. Mr. Sorensen asked it _ they were aware of the denial of a recent 5 story proposal chat was 2 feet above the 45 foot" height limitation. Mr. Sicora reported that they were not aware of it. Mr. Cardarelle stated that he was interested in speeding up the Fraser building and that he may be proposing office/warehousing on the adjacent 15 acres. Mr. Sorensen asked how soon Mr. Cardarelle's propcsai. would be brought in. Mr. Cardarelle responded that it would be very soom. Mr. G.T. Mork, ' Planning Commission Minutes -5- June 18,1974 stated that _ a road would be proposed between the Cardarelle site to get to the apartment units. Mr. Cardarelle said that he and Mr. Mork would like to see the Fraser apartment proposal proceed. Mr. Sorensen expressed concern about possible traffic problarrG because of future proposals on adjoining parcels. ` The planner expressed concern about having Fraser continue with the added information requested in Brauer's report unless it is known that a building in excess of 45 feet can be considered. Mr. Fraser said that they have follovuad what they considered Eden Prairie's wishes and that they do not want to spend money unnecessarily so he . would also like direction from the Council. Fosnocht moved, Meyers seconded to refer to the staff for evaluation pending the outcome of the Smetana Lake Sector Suudy. The motion carried with a vote of 4 ayes, ( Lynch, Sorensen, .Meyers, Fosnocht) and 1 nay (Lane) .' The planner felt that an evalutation would take alot of review time and that it would be helpful to know beforehafid, if a building above 45 feet would be permitted. He added that the original PUD permits a 12 story building and that if the Council denys�this proposal the City may be in for legal problems and will have wasted alot of time. • Further Motion Sorensen moved, Lane seconded, be it resolved that the Planning Commission . requests tl-eCouncil to make a policy decision as to whether or not residential structures in excess of 5 stories will be permittted in A. Non-PUD areas B. PUD areas C. Outside of the MCA area. The motion was unanimously approved. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. COMMISSION MEMBERS REPORS 1 . Chairwoman Schee- absent. 2. Commission member Fosnocht . Commission member Fosnochtex pressed concern about the high cost of housing and the yearly income necessary to_purchase even a $ 40,000.00 house at today's construction and money costs. He questioned if there was merit in reducting lot size to lower the cost of housing. He felt that a big factc in housing colt is financing which is not controlled by the City. Discussion followed about the influence of raw land, sewer, water, and financing in housing costs. 3, Commission member Meyers . Commercial Needs Study and/or Guide Plan revisions discussed at the Saturday, June 15, 1974joint Councfl/Oarnissicn mr etk Meyers reported that it had appeared the concensus of the members attending that the Guide Plan is still valid relating to commercial develop- ment. She requested that decision on the Commercial Needs Study be placed i Planning Commission Minutes -6- juke 4%1974 on the next Council agenda and that the Guide Plan revision be postpondd until the staff compiles the data showing changes since the Guide Plan's adoption. B. CITY PLANNER REPORTS 1 . Crosstown Industrial Park planning status. The planner reported that Bury/Carlson and Noyce will be presenting a joint PUD and asked if the Commission would prefer to have the hearing at the Forest Hills School. Mr. Sorensen felt that there would be adequate participation where ever it was held and asked if it would be convenient for the staff if the meeting was held at the school. The planner- said that having the meeting close to the affected area makes the neighborhood feel' considered and it makes government more visible. It was recommneded by Meyers that the hearing be held at Forest Hills School and the Council and Planning Commission ngtified and that a notice be placed on the door. 2 . Flood Plain Ordinance. The planner suggested that if possible this ordinance would be on the July 1 6 ih agenda. 3. Ur-date on Homart Eden Prairie Cerbar - parking, lighting, landscaping. The planner reported that plans on parking, lighting , etc. , would be in soon and that the staff would appreciate their comments. IV. ADTOURNMENT. Fosnocht moved, Lane seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:55 PM. • The motion carried unanimously.