Planning Commission - 11/06/1973 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1973
7:30 p.m. , Eden Prairie Village Hall
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INVOCATION - - - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - - - ROLL CALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairwoman Norma Schee, Wayne Brown, Don
Sorensen, Patrick Casey, Richard Lynch, Don
Teslow, Joan Meyers.
COMMISSION STAFF: Dick Putnam, Village Planner
I. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 30, 1973 , MEETING--SPECIAL WORK SESSION.
II. REPORTS'AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
7:35 p.m. A. **McAllister Properties, Anderson Lakes P.U.D. , proposed for luxury
condominiums north of Anderson Lakes adjacent to the Bloomington
boundary. Proposing 124 units built as a terraced apartment structure.
Review of project's initial submissions and changes/refinements suggested
at 10/16 Planning Commission meeting. Action.by Commission may be
anticipated with referral to Council for their 11/13/73 meeting,.
8:15 p.m. B. **Village Woods, by Zachman Homes,Inc. , proposal for 70 single family
homes located south of Scenic Heights Subdivision and Hipps Mitchell
Heights P.U.D. in Red Rock. Revised site plan presentation and Staff Report.
8:40 p.m. C. Smetana Lake Sector Planning, presentation of additional studies around
39/Ring Route and 39,Shady Oak and 18, and the connection of Valley View
Road. Discussion of R.Maculans' report, Planners Report, input from
Soil Conservation Service, Nine Mile Creek Watershed District, and
citizens. Action on specific segments of the planning recommendation
-may be possible.
9:45 p.m. D. Edenvale South P.U.D. , 200 acre tract east of 169 and west of Preserve,
Just south of M.C.A. Discussion of further changes and brief update of
traffic analysis in whole sector. No action expected.
III. PETITIONS & REQUESTS.
0:15 p.m. A. William Pearson Gravel _Mining Application for extraction of material west
of his current pit located along Washington Ave.in Smetana Lake Sector.
Preliminary Staff Comments as it relates to Smetana Lake Sector Planning.
.0.35 p.m. B. Brem,Inc. application for liquor license in existing Eden House Restaurant.
Presentation by developers. '
0:50 P.M. -C. *Basswoods dl site, located along Basswoods Blvd. in Preserve. The site
borders the school/park site and single family sites along Anderson Lakes.
Preliminary developer's presentation, and preliminary staff comments.
:1:15 p.m. 'D. *Hustad Development Corp. proposal for 12 lot single family subdivision in
Prairie East area east of Franlo Road. Developer's presentation & Engr. ,
Planning Reports.
.1:35 p.m. " ADJOURNMENT.
*Public Hearing; **Continued Public Hearing.
' MINUTES
" EDEN PRAIRIE PLA11NING CO u•1ISSION
TUESDAY, HOVEMBER 6, 1973 VILLAGE BALL 7:30 P.M.
• Commission Members: Chairwoman Norma Schee, Don Sorensen, Richard Lynch,
and Joan Heyers
Absent were Patrick Casey, Donald Teslow and
Wayne Broom
Commission Staff: Dick Putnam, Village Planner
I. MINUTES Or- OCTOBER 16 AND OCTOBER 30, 1973 MEETINGS
A motion was made and seconded to accept the minutes of October 16 and
October 30, 1973, as published. Motion carried unanimously.
II. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. McAllister Properties, Anderson Lakes P.U.D., proposed for Luxury
condominiums north of Anderson Lakes adjacent to the Bloomington
boundary, proposing 124 units built as a terraced apartment structure.
Mr. Peed Becker and Mr. Richard Garmaker presented their plans for -
fencing ', retaining wails and overlooks along the entire length of
the project buffered with plants.
Mrs. Meyers voiced concern over the use of the 2.7 acres adjacent to
the freeway for residental or commercial. 11r. Garmaker . sald'they would
• not developt and include it as open space for the condominium units,
if it might be used as a density credit (if needed) for the office site.
The model units proposed were deleted from the proposal with the use
of a temporary office for sales instead. Development of the 1.9 acre
model site will be required to compliment the site in Bloomington
adjacent to the homes on Ensign Road.
A motion was made by 11rs. Meyers seconded by Mrs. .Schee to:
1. Recommend approval without the 3 model units proposed, rather
temporary sales as-.pefnanent office would-be used to market
units on the site.
2. Recommend construction of permanent holding pond for plaza
water runoff to serve as project amenity.
3. Recommend seperate and detailed erosion and runoff plans
submitted to staff and watershed district prior to issuance
of builidng permits.
4. Recommend detailed planting plan for fence to be built
between Anderson Lakes and the project, be submitted and
approved.to the staff and Park & Recreation Board prior to
issuance of building permits.
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5. Recommend a two year time requirement until they obtain a
building permit (from date of council approval) or the
zoning reverts back to Rural according to Ordinance 135.
• Motion carried unanimously.
B. Village Woods, by Zachman Homes, Inc., proposal for 70 single
fam_-ily homes located south of Scenic Heights Subdivision and
Hipps Mitchell Heights P.U.D. in Red Rock.
Mr. Steve King presented the revised plan with a major change in
the street alignment. There are now 2 streets proposed instead of 1.
Mr. Putnam stated a concern for the transistion on the north
abutting` Scenic Heights and Hipps Mitchell Heights P.U.D. 1k. King
pointed out that they had already taken out one lot in this area
to provide for this.
Motion to recommend approval of zero lot line zoning for kTeighborhood
One of Village Woods. Approval of preliminary plat for Phase One
to be contingent upon:
1. Assurance of a smooth transition between existing residential
to the north by only allowing larger and fewer lots in the
development so the image Mould flow from lower to higher
density instead of having more than one back yard up to one
side yard of existing homes.
• 2. The developer must indicate the boiling types exactly as they
will occur prior to approving final plat.
3. A minimum front set back of 30' must be adhered to.
4. Pathways between open spaces should be enlarged to allow
fln ;bJlity and break up any monctozy and provide an
adequate buffer between green and house.
5. Approval only granted T,.hen written agreement with Village staff
that a temporary road would be constructed to iZtchell Road for
heavy machine traffic. No construction equipment shall go- on
Hiawatha Avenue,. Prior to construction. of Phase x*4[ t'-,._e 'Scenic
Heights connector mast be built for feeding ail traffic
into site.
6. Easement grunted for public use of the pathway system with
construction of these pathways to be considered WI-th detailed
plans built and paid for by develcper to ensure their
existence at the Veginaing of the project.
7. No construct-Son- on or near the northex.n pond that.wou1d' en-,
courage active use, such as boating, swimming, etc.
3. The Village engineering staff must approve all utilities,
• streets, etc. prior to final plat approval.
No vote of "Village Woods" was recorded.
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C. Smetana Lake Sector Planning, presentation of additional studies
around 39/Ring Route and 39-Shady Oak-18, interchanges were
discussed by Mr. Putnam.
. Mr. Putnam presented three alternatives for Valley View Road;
1. Valley View east of present location crossing 9 mile
creek one or two tines and connecting to Ring Road
south of Smetana Lake.
2. .Valley View on the same right of way built to a 2 lane
capacity.
a. With and at grade connection at Ring Road.
b. Underpass Ring Road connection to #169 or Ring Road south.
3.. Same as 1#12 but add a 2 lane connection east/west south
of 9 mile creek. �
Mr. Hilger questioned the widening of Valley View Road as he felt it
would encroach upon Mr. Bearman's property and he also wanted to know
what area would be served by this widening.
Mr. Putnam suggested that their property would not be affected, as
they would use the 66' right-of-way in widening Valley View. In answer
to 2Ir. Hilger's second question, Mr. Putnam felt the road would be
serving the people working the industrial areas and also those in
southwestern Edina.
• Mr. Bearman questioned the park area and if it would be of use any
Zonger. .
Mr. Putnam stated that it would serve the people right in the area
and also "for visual use .and a natural habitat for wildlife.
Mrs. Schee mentioned that the creek valley could be kept in its natural
form and that appropriate development could be develop adjacent.
Ro action was taken with further detailed road dates to be available
at the next meeting.
M. PETITIONS A14D REQUESTS
A. Hilliam Pearson Gravel Mining Application for extraction of material
west of his current pit located along IJashiugton Avenue in Smetana
Lake Sector.
L'ecause of the degree Df slopes involved, Mrs. Schee asked if
Mr. Pearson had any provisions for erosion control?
Mr. Pearson stated that he feels there will not be any erosion
because after a few months vegetation grows back on the slopes.
. Mr. Putnam noted that there did not appear to be any plans for land use
after the mining operation was completed.
Plannfng Commission Meeting --fir- November 6, 1973
Mr. Pearson stated that he had made no definite plans for lard use
after mining is completed.
There was much discussion over the commission's concern that the
• graveling operation today has exceeded current boundaries of the
building, permit.
lit. Don Bundlie; attorney for Mr. Pearson, felt that the question.
at hand which was more i=ortant for the community - gravel or
maintaining the natural shape of the land.
The planner asked if the proposed Arlan was implemented what could ,be
done with the 125-160' level ground at the base of 80-9014 t6 1 slopes?
' Putnam indicated that the hills left in the current. grading plan would
require leveling those at a later date to permit any development?
Hr. Pearson and his attorney agreed that they might request a later
permit for that purpose.
Mr. Sorensen moved to deny the application based on: .
1. The rn— from Carl 3ullis, Village Engineer. "
2. Because Sector"planning is in process and is not
coapleted,since the Pearson plan will not permit flexibility,
in pla—.ng or land use after its. completion.
3.. All min3.ng operations cease until an: operative n-U., g
permit is applied for and approved.
. 24t. Lynch seconded the motion. The motion was passed unanimously.
B. Brem, Inc., application for liquor license in existing Eden House
Restaurant.
Tar. Putnam stated that.the.nlanning commission could not approve or
disapprove 'of a liquor- license but rather they would consider
,nether a restaurant was reasonable at this location.
?Jr. William Geimer, representing Brem. Inc. gave a presentation
for the Eden House and stated their plans.
Discussion of tha size of the parking lot and that there should
be changes in this.
Mrs. Schee motioned that the site of the current Eden House
restaurant is a good site for a restaurant. Mr. lynch seconded
the motion.. IL-s. Schee, Mrs. Meyers and Mr. Lynch approved the
motion. Xr. Sorensen abstained.
C. Basswoods Al site located along Basswoods Blvd. in The Preserve.
Mr. Dick Schwartz presented the preliminax-7 plans for this project.
The site is essentially divided into two different areas. On the
• west side of the site the buildings are divided into five small
clusters of units. on the east side there are two large corridor
apartment buildings.
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There was discussion over the relationship of the large multiple
apartment building to the single family home to the east.
airs. Meyers motione3 that this be -referred* to the staff for
a report and continued at the next meeting
The notion i.as passed unanimously.
D. Hustad Developmant Corp. proposal for 12 lot single faui."-Ivy su'o-
divisian in the Prairie Fast area east of Franio Road.
Mrs. Schee motioned to approve the project based. upon. the Planner's
Report and the Engineer's Report. The Notion -was paseed unanimmously.
There was discussion of a tour and briefing on the progress at the
Preserve Center and Basswoods dl site prior to the next meeting. Pre-
. ference was given to a Saturday morning tour. All Village commission
members otould be invited.
Meeting adjourned at 12:05 A.M.
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