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Planning Commission - 10/16/1973 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, OCTOBER 16, 1973 ! 7:3 0 p.m. , Eden Prairie Village Hall INVOCATION - - - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - - - ROLL CALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairwoman Norma Schee, Wayne Brown, Don Sorensen, Patrick Casey, Richard Lynch, Don Teslow, Joan Meyers. COMMISSION STAFF: Dick Putnam, Village Planner. I. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 2 , 1973 , MEETING. II. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 7:35 P. m. A. McAllister Properties, Anderson Lakes P.U.D. , 124 unit condominium project, located adjacent to the Eden Prairie boundary, north of Anderson Lakes and south of West 78th Street. Request rezoning from Rural under P:U.D. 73-3 to RM 2 .5. in conformance with'the M.C.A. P.U..D. (Developer's presentation and Staff Report) :15 p.m. B. Village Woods, clustered single family by Zachman Homes, located south of Hiawatha Avenue in Red Rock, 28 acre project of about 70 lots. • Request rezoning to RM 6 .5 from P.U.D.. 72-03 Rural. Developer's presentation, Staff Report presented at meeting. III'. PETITIONS & REQUESTS: :45 p.m. A. Smetana Lake Sector Study, discussion of consultant report, Valley View Road problems, extent of land alteration. ::30 p.m. B. Masters Condominiums in Edenvale, proposed by Weis Builders, for 99 condominium units located north of Valley View Road andwest of the golf club house. Staff Report on revised 3-story plan. i:15 p.m. C. Edenvale South, 200 acre P.U.D. located east of 1169 and south of the M.C .A. along the proposed East/West Parkway. Revised presentation from developer. IV. WORK SESSION: 1:45 p.m. A. Crosstown realignment from Shady Oak Road interchange to I-494. nformal presentation of alternates 5 , 6 , and 7 by Planner. :15 P.M. B. 1974 Plannin4 Program and discussion of orioritie :35 p.m. V. ADJOURNMENT. " NINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION • TUESDAY, OCTOBER 16 , 1973 VILLAGE HALL 7 :30 P.M. Commission i•iembers : Chairman Pro Tem !Mayne Brown , Don Sorensen, Joan Meyers , and Richard Lynch Absent were Don Teslow and Norma Schee Commission Staff: Dick Putnam, Village Planner I . iINUTES OF OCTOBER 2 , 1973 , (iEETING. Page 3 , III . C. Fourth paragraph, last line should read : Eighty percent of the units will have good views . A motion was made by Pir. Lynch seconded by Pair. Sorensen to accept the minutes of October 2, 1973 , as corrected. Motion carried . Mr. Soresen, referring to the SUN newspaper article in which it was stated that the Commission had given its approval to Homart, com- mented that he didn ' t think approval had been given at that time. He expressed his disappointment in the lack of uniqueness exhibited in the schematic and urged that Homart reconsider some of what they are doing to provide the uniqueness proclaimed to the Commission earlier. Hrs . ''Meyers agreed with these comments and added that the seating and ramping design was an area of change which was disap- • poi nti.ng. The Commission requested the staff to transmit to Homart their disappointment and their encouragement for Homart to be more in- novative. II .PUBLIC HEARINGS : A. i,1cAilister Properties, Anderson Lakes P. U.D. , 124 unit condomin- ium project, located adjacent to the Eden Prairie , boundary, north of Anderson Lakes and south of LJest 78th Street. Request rezoning from Rural under P.U. D. 73-3 to RP4t 2. 5 in conformance with the H.C.A. P.U. D. A slide presentation of the area was made by Mr. Putnam. For the benefit of the members of the audience, Mr. fiorss explained the project as presented to the Commission at their previous meetings . A map illustrating the relationship between the con- dominium project and adjacent buildings was shown. Mr. P4orss indicated that a six story office building is being studied by Hr. Garmaker, the developer. 14hen discussion was opened to questions from the Commission, Rrs. Neyers asked if the three townhouses to be used as models would become a permanent part of the development. Rr. Norss replied • that a sizable investment in the models is made so that it is desirable by the developer to use the models as townhouses . Planning Commission Meeting -2- October 16, 1973 II .A. McAllister Properties (continued) (dr. iYiorss stated that little or no damage would occur to the trees by the road ' s placement, :vhen [Irs . Heyers expressed con- cern about the long diagonal driveway into the development. Commission members felt that the 2-3/4 acres between the project road and West 78th Street should be designated as open space. The eight recommendations made in the preliminary staff report of October 1 , 1973, were reviewed by Mr. Putnam. Nr . Richard Sampson , President of the Anderson Lakes Property Owners ' Association, conveyed the following to the Commission : The Anderson Lake project. . . . . . . 1 . would destroy the single family residential character of the area; 2. will have disastrous effects on the ecology because of its high density. !later fowl nesting area will be disturbed by onlookers ; and 3. cannot be serviced by the present road system. It was their recommendation to build the road first and that access on Ensign Road not be permitted . Mr. Sampson further stated that the twenty-four family member- ship of the .association was in opposition to the rezoning for the Anderson Lakes condominium project. • In answer to a question from Pair. Frank .Hartmann, 8216 Ensign Road, Mr. Morss said that the elevation of the hill was 910 with the top of the- building having an elevation of 912. The precast concrete structure would have an exterior of brick and woad to blend with the environment. Hr. Eugene Quast, 8008 Ensign Road , complimented the Commission on their concern over the models which would be behind his home. He recommended elimination of the models at that site and their placement in the structure itself. Mrs . Carr and Mr. Lyman Olson, both of Ensign Road, 'voiced opposition to the project. No action was - taken by the Commission. The project will be be- fore the Park and Recreation Commission at its next meeting. E . Village Woods , clustered single family by Zachman domes , lo- cated south of Hiawatha Avenue in Red Rock, 28 acre project of about 70 lots . Request rezoning to RPYI 6. 5 from P . U.D. 72-03 Rural . No discussion took place on this project as there were no in- terested residents present and the Commission was already famil - iar with the project. Planning Commission Meeting -3- October 16, 1973 III . PETITIONS AND REQUESTS : • A. Smetana Lake Sector Study, discussion of consultant report, Val - ley View Road problems , extent of land alteration. fir. Putnam urged that a tour of the area be taken before the report was discussed . The tour was rescheduled for Tuesday, October 23 , at 4 :30 p.m. with a work session to follow on Tues- day, October 30. B . Blasters Condominiums in Edenvale , proposed by Weis Builders , for 99 condominium units located north of Valley View Road and west of the golf club house. Staff report on the revised three-story plan. Mr. Don Peterson , Eden Land Corporation, introduced Mr. Joe Weis, the developer, after stating that a survey of adjacent land owners brought no negative comments regarding the six-story project. Mr. Weis explained that it was their intent to. pre- , s-erve the existing topography and vegetation. After considering many building forms , the proposal for two six-story buildings was presented and rejected . . The two three-story cross building proposal submitted as an alternative was not exciting . Hr. Weis further stated that Mr. Enger' s suggestions of two terraced structures was evaluated by their planners and found to be un- acceptable because it included only 85 units and the cost would make it economically unfeasible. • Mr. Peterson stated that the original Edenvale POD requested 22% building coverage on this site. Brauer and Associates recom- mended 18% coverage with 13 .4 units per acre with not more than 99 units . To meet this criteria , buildings would have to be clustered and tiro buildings would be needed. Building size could be shrunk but nothing would be accomplished but to drive up the price of the units . for. Sorensen felt a statement should be. made to the Council ex- pressing the Commission ' s concerns and disapproval of the alter- native presented. [Irs . Heyers felt that the six story building would be out of place in the particular area of Edenvale--a misfit in a resi- dential atmosphere. Mr. Lynch too felt that the building was neither compatible nor disguisable. Mr. Jim Barnes , Mr. tleis ' partner, stated that : 1 . There have been no objections from residents in Eden Prairie at the many meetings at which this project has been discussed . 2. They were interested in Neither trade-offs nor submission • of additional alternatives . 3 . The POD was established and the particular site reaffirmed by the Council at their last meeting. Planning Commission Meeting -4- October 16, 1973 III .B . Masters Condominiums ( continued) • A motion was made by Mr. Soresen seconded by Mr. Lynch to : 1 . Recommend disapproval of the three story cross building proposal for the reasons set forth in the amendment dated October 8, 1973 , to the Staff Planning report of August 15, 1973 ; 2. Reaffirm the Commission 's recommendations on the six story project of August 21 , 1973; 3 . Recommend to the Council the reevaluation of the designa- tion of maximum units on this particular site in consid- eration of its special nature and characteristics with .a view to' reducing the density approved in the P.U.D. Motion carried wi-th Messrs . Soresen and Lynch and Mrs . Meyers voting aye; Mr. Brown voting nay. C. Edenvale South , 200 acre P.U.D. located east of 169 and south of the M.C.A. along the proposed East/!Most Parkway. Mr. Peterson explained the land use map and changes made. M-1 and M-2 uses will be proposed with 2.7 unit per acre and 15 unit per acre density respectively. s�loderate income housing will be provided with prices starting in the high $30 ' s . Attempts will be made to get into an $8,000 • per lot range. A variety of house styles will be provided but the Commission suggested some type of control to prevent a tract-type project. An underpass is planned -for access to the proposed school site and a second underpass abandoned between the park and pond due to grading problems and an existing water main in the area. Mr. Peterson replied affirmatively when Mrs . ileyers asked if the school and park sites were included when overall density was. calculated . The request was referred to the staff as well as Park and Rec Commission . The project will be placed on the Planning Commis- sion ' s agenda for (November 6, 1973. IV.WORK SESSION : Due to the lateness of the hour (12 :30 a .m. ) the Planner postponed the crosstown realignment discussion and then highlighted the 1974 Planning Program. Suzanne K. Lane, Deputy Clerk