Planning Commission - 12/05/1972 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5 , 3 972
• 7:3 0 P.M. , EDEN PRAIRIE VILLAGE HALL
INVOCATION - - - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - - - ROLL CALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Norma Schee; Chairman Pro-Tem Herb
Fosnocht; Secretary Wayne Brown; Roger Boerger, Ralph Nesbitt, Don
Sorensen, Patrick Casey, Jamie Mikelson.
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert Heinrich, Village Manager;
Dick Putnam, Planner.
I. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 23 , 1972 , MEETING.
II. REPORTS & RECOMMENDATIONS.
7:35 p.m. A. WarPn,Shciltz, single family development of five lots between
Kurtz Lane and PctrcidisP Valley. Action on preliminary plat and
rezoning to R 1-3 3 .5 .
7: 50 p.m.B. Anderson Lake P.U.D. residential development north of Anderson ,
Lakes and south of 494 near Co. Rd. 18. 130 units of multiple
terraced housing and 32 town house units on a 15 acre site.
• Staff report and recommendation.
8:15 p.m. C. Ecklund & Swedlund, Hidden Ponds, single family detached
development located south of Duck Lake Trail and east of 301 of
350 acres. Requesting P.U.D. concept plan approval,
preliminary plat, and rezoning to R 1-3 3.5 on the 40 acre first
phase. Staff report and recommendation.
III. PETITIONS & REQUESTS.
8-35 p.m. A. HOMART Development Corporation, application for concept plan
approval and rezoning to C-regional commercial for a Regional'
Shopping Mall located south of the "WYE" in The Preserve.
Presentation by HOMART.
IV. ADJOURNMENT.
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
• Tuesday, December 5, 1972 7:30 P.M. Village Mall
INVOCATION PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL
Members Present: Chairwoman Norma Schee, Chairman Pro-Tem Herb Fosnocht,
Don Sorensen•, Roger Boerger, Wayne Brown, Dick Putnam.
Members Absent: Jamie Mikelson, Ralph Nesbitt, Patrick Casey.
Pair. Putnam invited commission members to attend a meeting at Prairie View
school at 7:30 P.N. , December 18, 1972 of Duck Lake Area residents.
Appriximately 350 residents will be receiving letters regarding the
Hidden Ponds (Ecklund ' Swedlund) and Purgatory Crcek (Shelter Development)
Proposals.
I. MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 21, 1972.
Action taken on "C" The Basswoods conceptual land use plan and pre-
liminary plat application should read as follows:
Action Taken:
• After discussion and clarification, Per. Boerger made the following
motion with Per. Fosnocht seconding: That the preliminary plat approval
and land use concept of The Basswoods area in The Preserve be approved
with the staff recommendations A through D, with the following changes:
Basswoods development stages be consistent with the original Preserve PUD
plan which has a 6.4 dwelling unit per acre average for the 76 acre site.
An amendment to this motion was made by Mr. Brown and seconded by
Mr. Sorensen as follows: Basswoods development stages be consistent
with the original Preserve -PUD plan. Amendment carried with ayes from
Sorensen, Nesbitt, Schee and Brown; and nayes from Boerger, Fosnocht,
and Mikelson.
The amended motion: That the preliminary plat approval and land use
concept of The Basswoods area in The Preserve be approved with the
staff recommendations
A. Basswoods development stages be consistent with the original Preserve
PUD plan.
B. Detailed pathway/open space plans be submitted with development
stage applications.
C. The exact scenic easement along Anderson Lakes be workable with
the open space planning and legally acceptable to the Village
Attorney.
D. Individual site plans be evaluated with special attention to the
preservation.of the natural character of the high knoll and heavily
• wooded site.
was voted on with ayes from Sorensen, Nesbitt, Schee and Brown; and
nayes from Mikelson, Boerger and Fosnocht.
Planning Commission Minutes
December 5, 1972
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The Notion regarding the restudy of OlWipic Hills residential development
was made by fir. Sorensen and seconded by fir. Boerger.
Mr. Sorensen moved that the corrected minutes be approved with Mrs.
Schee seconding that motion. Carried unanimously.
II. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
A. Waren Schultz, single family development of five lots between Kurtz
Lane and Paradise Valley. Action on preliminary plat and rezoning
to R1-13.5.
Mr. Putnam pointed out that the only new information was the reComm-
�endation submitted by the County Highway Department. Mr. Schultz
said he had talked briefly with the Attorney representing the residents
of the area prior to the Planning Commission meeting, He indicated
his willingness to work out a resolution regardless of the action
that the Commission might take. Attorney Rosholt pointed, out that
he had tried to reach II.r. Schultz prior to the Commission meeting.
He requested a dicision by the Commission on the merits of the project.
Mr. Fosnocht inquired as to the restrictions of the deeds of the
home owners and their reviewal . fir. Perbix, Mr. Putnam said, would
• review this when the matter was brought before the Village Council .
Mr. P.osholt pointed out that RI-13.5 requires maximum of 2 lots per
acre which would limit the plat to 4 lots rather than 5 and further
showed that lot 3 was under the ordinance size. The variances were
then read and discussed.
Earl Seliger, Paradise Valley, spoke to the Commission about the
democractic process; Gerry Wallner voiced this concern about the
privacy, drainage, and his desire for open space; Mr. Jack Burke,
Park Terrace Drive, objected to the rezoning, lack of plat on the
proposed change, possible double taxation on the street abutting
the properties.
Action Taken
Mr. Boerger moved and Mr. Brown seconded that the Llarren Schultz
single family development between Kurtz Lane and Paradise Valley
be accepted and recommended for approval with the following
recommendations:
1. Require a detailed planting plan for the southerly property line
at sufficient height and density to screen the southerly homes
view north.
2. Recommend rezoning of the land to R1-13.5 in conformance with
the plan submitted.
3. Approve the preliminary plat as submitted for single home sites.
• 4. The street proposed should be built to Village standards and be
a public street with sufficient right-of-way---minimum of 44 feet.
5. Dedicate additional right-of-way along CSAH 4 to provide 50.0
feet width of right-of-way from the centerline of CSAH 4.
Planning Commission Pleeti ng
December 5, 197.2
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6. , Access to all lots should be from the proposed street rather
than from CSAH 4. Entrance and street permits must be obtained
from the maintenance section of the Hennepin County Highway
Division.
7. All proposed construction or alterations within County right of
way must be approved by the Hennepin County Highway Division.
8. That such recommendation present. no conflict with existing
sub-division restrictions or legal infringement on surrounding
properties or otherwise.
Motion carried with ayes from Brown, Schee, Boerger; nayes from
Fosnocht; and abstainion from Sorensen. Residents were informed
that the Village Council would be told of their recommendation
prior to its next meeting on December 12, 1972.
B. Anderson Lake PUD residential development north of Anderson Lakes and
south of 494 near Co. Rd. #18. 130 units of multiple terraced
housing and 32 townhouse,units on a 15 acre site. Staff report and
recommendation.
Pair. Putnam explained his staff planning report. f-ir. Dick Garmaker,
developer, said a time period of one year would be an adequate time
limit for his project and voiced his committment .to the plan. He
said corporate offices and perhaps cinemas were being planned for
the proposed commercial area to the west of the proposed project.
Mr. Fosnocht spoke of the impact of the flood plain area and told
of his concern about the intrusion on the lake. Mr. Aslandis felt
that the plantings would surely not eliminate but would prevent
or minimize this intrusion. Shoreview Manor, Edina-Southdale
Highrise, and Chateau Shelard are current projects of McAllister, Inc.
Action Taken:
Further research was desired by the Commission members so it was
moved by fir. Boerger and seconded by Mr. Brown to hold the item
over for two weeks and place it on the Commission's agenda for
December 19. Boergers Brown, Fosnocht, Schee ayed. Sorensen
abstained.
C. Ecklund & Swedlund, Hidden Ponds, single family detached development
located south of Duck Lake Trail and east of 101 of preliminary plat
and rezoning to R1 13.5 on the 40 acre first phase. Staff report
and recommendation.
Mr. Putnam read the planning staff report as -it had just been pre-
sented to the members that evening. The proposed December 18
meeting of the Duck Lake residents was mentioned. .
Mr. Sorensen questioned the Quasi-Public Trail and its use by Village
or just Hidden Ponds residents. fir. Len Swedlund said that although
its original use was to be for the residents only, he would accept
the decision of the Park and Recreation Commission.
Planning Commission Meeting
December 5, 1972
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Action Taken:
Mr. Sorensen moved and Pair. Boerger seconded approval of the plan
with the following recommendations:
1. Approval of the concept plan for the 150 acre residential
development "Hidden Ponds" by Ecklund & Swedlund.
2. Approve rezoning and preliminary plat for the first phase 43.7
acres as presented with the stipulations that parkway areas
are acceptable to the Village Park and Recreation Department.
3. The Commission has the option to amend after the informal
meeting of the residents on December 18 relating to this develop-
ment.
Carried unanimously.
III. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS.
A. Homart Development Corporation application for concept plan approval
and rezoning to C-Regional commercial for a regional shopping mall
located south of the "Wye" in The Preserve. Presentation by Homart.
Mr. Sandvig explained why Homart, a subsidiary of Sears chose Eden
Prairie. Preliminary investigations were made on traffic (Ring
Route), utilities, and zoning (comprehensive guide plan). He
explained on the improvements required for the opening of the center
• as -outlined in the Homart proposal .
Mr. Jim Winstead, Architectonics, identified the major elements of
the center:
1. Shopping Pull -- Two level 325,000 gross leasable with some 90
tenants plus 25% of that in common area.
2. Two to three major stores area with 130 to 180 gross leasable
available for the two stores now committed.
3. Four berms with 4 balanced parking areas. 5.5 spaces per 1,000
foot of leasable area of the mall , department stores 1 &2 and
estimated size of store 3. Parking area supplied within the
shopping center's own ring route.
4. Ring road is the main circulation element -- 4 lane, two way
road with 5 entrance magazines which are also 4 lane.
5. Grading on net center site will be a minimum of 1-1/2% and a
maximum of 4%. Paving will be of the best standards avaiiabe in
the area. Site lighting will be used. Landscaping will be of
the best quality with $3,000 per acre budgeted for this site.
Mr. Jerry Sandvig explained that areas which do not fit the mall
but are compatible to the mall will be situated adjacent to the
mall with their own parking--banks, multiple cinema, offices, variety
and furniture stores. The time schedule and necessary Eden Prairie
Village actions were explained. The center will be 3/4 in size of
Southdale but almost equal to Southdale of a third store committment
is secured.
Mr. Hustad requested data on the impact of this project in the
community in taxes for instance. Would Homart be willing to assume
some of the tax deficient if any? ghat would the impact on the
residential areas be?
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December 5, 1972
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Mr, Fosnocht asked fir. Putnam if a comprehensive financial study
would be made and it was learned that the Village is already working
on this and the information made available to members when ready.
Homart representations assured the members that the August 1, 1975
completion date is firm if necessary commitments from the Village
could be obtained.
fir. Sorensen inquired about possible open space or park areas and
Mr. Fosnocht expressed concern about the parking lot and its attrac-
tiveness. It was suggested that pedestrial traffic be given serious
consideration.
Mr. Bob McDonald of McDonald Reality wanted to go on record as being
in favor of this proposal.
Action Taken:
Continuance of the presentation would take place at later Planning
Commission meetings with staff reports forthcoming.
IV. fir. Boerger moved for adjoUvnment at 11:45 P.M. with fir. Brown seconding.
Carried unanimously.
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