Planning Commission - 11/07/1972 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1972
7:30 P.M. , EDEN'PRAIRIE VILLAGE HALL
INVOCATION - - - - - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ; - - - -:ROLL CALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Norma Schee; Chairman Pro-'Pbin;`H'erb
Fosnocht; Secretary, Wayne Brown; Roger Boerger, Ralph Nesbitt,
Don Sorenson, Patrick Casey, Jamie Mikelson.
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert Heinrich, Village Manager;
Dick Putnam, Planner.
T. MINUTES OF SEP.TEMBER 19, OCTOBER 3, and OCTOBER 17, 1972,•!MEETINGS.
II. REPORTS & RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Warren Shultz , requesting rezoning and preliminary plat approval oA .
five lots south of Kurtz Lane, east of Co. Rd. #4. Rec=sider_ation.-of-.
proposed plat.
B. Olympic Hills P.U.D. Concept Plan, presentation and Preliminary .
• Staff Report.
C,. The "Basswood" concept plan for 76 acres in The Preserve.. This is a ;
requirement of the 1968 Guide Plan and Preserve Concept 'Plan.,
D. Duck Lake/Round Lake Public Sector Planning Study, Preliminary Staff
Report.
E. Discussion of other major planning studies affecting the Village,.'
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MINUTES
• EDEN PRA'RIE PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7 , 1972 7:30 P. M. Village Hall
INVOCATION PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairwoman Norma Schee; Chairman Pro-Tem Herb
Fosnocht; Wayne Brown, Roger Boerger, Ralph Nesbitt, Don Sorensen,
Jamie Mikelson. Absent was Patrick Casey. Also present was Dick
Putnam, Eden Prairie Village Planner.
I. _Minutes of September 19, 1972.
Minutes were approved as submitted.
_Minutes of October 3, 1972.
Minutes were approved as submitted.
Minutes of October 17, 1972.
Minutes were approved as submitted with Norma Schee and Wayne
Brown abstaining.
Minutes of October 19, 1972.
Minutes were approved with the following corrections:
that the second and third paragraphs in II A. , Mark Z. Jones
Associates, Shadow Green, be deleted, and
that the last sentence on page 1 read: One amendment to the
Staff Report is Item D under 1: That the signs identifying the
service station, oil company tenant and products sold be restricted
to the end walls of the building.
Norma Schee abstained.
II. REPORT` AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Warren Shultz , requesting rezoning and preliminary plat approval_
on five lots south of Kurtz Lane, east of Co. Rd. 4._ Reconsideration
of proposed plat.
Mr. Grey of Rieke Carroll Muller represented Mr. Shultz and explained
their efforts to meet with the residents of the adjacent property without
success. He told of the access options explored which were considered
to be unfeasible due to lot disturbance, prohibitive cost. The lot size,
drainage problem solution, developer-paid utilities were also explained.
Mr. Jack Rosholt, attorney representing residents surrounding the area,
presented a petition and indicated the concerns of the neighbors and the
history of the area. The problems facing these residents: back-to-front
housing, Co. Rd. 4 traffic hazard, drainage, Paradise Valley covenants .
Messrs. Earl Wunderlich, Les Coon, Jack Burke, Jerry 'Wallner, Earl
Selliger expressed their objections.
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Mr. Sorensen pointed out that people who buy property in an area have
the right to believe that the property adjoining be developed in a similar
manner with compatible use and same life style. Mr. Fosnocht,
sharing the neighboring owner's concern and recognizing the traffic
problem, moved. that the Commission reject the proposal recommending to
the Council that they not approve the proposal. This motion was not
seconded as other members of the Commission explained their views,
both pro and con.
Action Taken: '
Sorensen moved and Brown seconded to continue with the proposal at
the next Commission meeting which would allow both sides, encouraged
by the Commission, to meet at a mutually agreeable time to work out
a resolution of this matter. Motion passed unanimously.
B. Olympic Hi11s._PVU.D. Conceit Plan, presentation and Preliminary
Staff Report.
Mr. Stelios Aslanidis presented a slide review of the plan, considered
units with floor plans, and landscape. Gross density will be 5 .25,
• with building coverage on 5 .7 acres, road coverage on 7 .2 acres, and
19 .0 open spaces or recreational activities.
Mr. Putnam told of his concern of the building on the dense wooded
area with the ridge line also presenting a problem. The driveway grade
into the area, bad soil and water drainage, and buildings too close
to greens could also be problem areas.
Mr. Fosnocht asked if the project would be considered or continued if
the apartment building was eliminated and the developer stressed the
importance of that building. Easement rights for the sewer lines were
questioned, and the developer's engineering study relating to that
matter would be made available to Mr. Gene Schurman.
Action Taken:
Herb Fosnocht moved that the proposal be given to the Staff for recom-
mendation. Norma Schee seconded. Motion was carried unanimously.
Mr. Putnam assured the developer that the Staff Report would be ready
in two weeks.
C . The "Basswood" Concept Plan for 76 acres in The Preserve . This is
a refinement of the 1968 Guide Plan and Preserve Concept Plan.
• Mr, Putnam told of how this plan had been presented-at the Park and
Recreation Commission meeting and of the Commission's favorable
reaction.
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Mr. Dick Schwarz outlined their plans and indicated that they were
seeking concept approval and comments from the Planning Commission
so that they could move ahead with assurance. Approvals for
development stages would be sought subsequently with road and utility
approval to be among the first.
Mr. Putnam suggested that the Commission recommend to the Council
preliminary plat approval of the Basswood 76 acre mixed residential
development in The Preserve with these stipulations:
1. That the development stages for the total 76 acre site be consistent
with the original approved P.U.D. densities, approximately six
units per acre over the 76 acre site.
2. That a detailed pathway/open space plan be submitted with the
development stage application.
3 .- That the scenic easement along Anderson Lakes be legally acceptable
to the Village Attorney.
4. That the individual site plans be evaluated with special attention
• to the preservation of the natural character of the heavily wooded areas.
Action Taken:
The Commission gave informal approval of the plan rather than formal
concept approval. This would permit preliminary approval at the next
meeting. The matter was referred to the Staff.
D. Duck Lake Round Lake Public Sector Planning Study, Preliminary
Staff Report.
Mr. Putnam told of the three major freeway (169, 212 , Crosstown)
proposal going through the Village. A study of the land use , transit,
and transportation of the southwest sector is planned. The Metro Council
would like the Crosstown to meet 5 , with the County Highway Department
not in complete agreement. The State Highway Department's primary
concern is with the 212/169 corridors.
HOMART is coming in shortly with conceptual development plans. The
airport study with MAC entails system planning and the future of Flying
Cloud Airport. Conclusion of Phase t of the Civic Center/High School
Study is being reached.
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Mrs. Schee informed the Commission of the Thursday, Nov. 16 ,
6:30 p.m. dinner meeting at Radisson South; available funds for
Planning seminars and conferences; and the Tuesday, November 14,
noon luncheon tour of Northtown Shopping Center.
Wayne Brown moved to adjourn with Herb Fosnocht seconding. Carried.
Meeting Adjourned 10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, Wayne Brown, Secretary, by SL
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