Planning Commission - 06/20/1972 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, June 20, 1972 1:30 P.M. , Village Hall
INVOCATION -- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE -- ROLL CALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marvin LaGrow, Norma Schee, Ralph Nesbitt,
Herb Fosnocht, Don Sorenson, Wayne Brown,
PatrickCasey, Mike Manning, Jammie Mikelson.
COMMISSION STAFF: George Hite, Village Manager; Dick Putnam,
Planning Assistant.
I. MINUTES OF JUNE 6 , 1972
II. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS.
A. Minnesota Highway Department maintenance facility between
169 and 212 north of the ring road.
ZZZ. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Edenvale Concept Plan _Revisions_.
B. Preliminary' Plat. Edenvale' Third_ Addition..
C. Shelter. &iarhilliri Edenvale.
D. School Study 'and 1Vlajor Center_ _Area Progress_ _Reports.
. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE VILLAGE HALL
TUESDAY, JUNE 20, 1972
7:30 P. M.
Members Present: Posnocht, Schee, Brown, Casey, Boerger. Also
present, Dick Putnam, Planning Assistant.
1. Minutes of Tune 6, 1972 Planning Commission Meeting. Moved
Schee, seconded by Brown that the minutes be approved as read.
Motion carried.
II. Petitions, Requests and Communications.
A. Minnesota High'rivay Department's request for maintainance facility
between 169 and T.nterstate 212 north of the Ring_ Route and south
of Nine-Mile Creek.
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Representing the state highway department was Mr. Pat Chandler
from the Maintenance Facilities Division. He presented a sche-
matic site plan and a proposed landscape plan. The proposed
site plan for the maintenance facility indicates a building 122
feet by 124 feet located in the center of the site. On the south
end adjacent to the off ramp of 212 will be an area for outside
• storage of sand, gravel, and salt piles. On the north end of
the building, will be parking facilities for employees and exterior
storage of various off season equipment. Mr. Chandler indicated
that the building would have garage doors on the two sides
adjacent to the parking lots with a drive through circulation for
trucks.
The site itself has been rough graded and Mr. Chandler pointed
out that the north end has a very steep slope down to existing
169 and that the site will be elevated above proposed 212 by a
good deal. Also, earthberming and landscape plantings he felt
will screen the site from road view. Along 169 are two entrances
to the site. The area is classified as a Sub Area Headquarters
Building and would house approximately 13 to 15 trucks on the
eight acre site. It would be primarily used for equipment storage
and material storage. The planner pointed out that we as the
Planning Commission may not have any jurisdiction or authority
over any particular use on this site. He noted that it was ,
unclear as to the law governing highway department use of its
land at this time. Mr. Chandler indicated that the highway
department wanted to do what the community felt was appropriate
. in this area and that their facility should be in accord with the
Village wishes.
Action Taken.
Casey moved, seconded by Brown to refer the Hennepin County
Maintainance Facility Proposal to the staff for report at the next
meeting. Motion carried.
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June 20 , 1972
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I.H. Reports and Recommendations.
A. Revision of the Edenvale Concept Plan dated August, I970, to the
undated version Tune, 1972.
The concept plan revision was presented at the previous Planning
and Zoning Commission Meeting by Mr. Peterson from Edenvale .
The planner said that a meeting June 5, with Mr. Parkhill and
Mr. Peterson regarding the shopping center located on the corner
of Valley View and Mitchell Rd. was held but the staff had no
recommendations at the time.
Commission members had questions of Mr. Parkhill and Mr. Peterson
about the need for this center within Edenvale so close to the
regional center. Also, the functions included within the center,
especially the lack of community or human services space and
the pedestrian access and design considerations for the center.
Mr. Fosnocht asked about the small multiple parcel located south
• of Valley View Road adjacent to the railroad underpass. This is
a change from the initial concept plan that indicated an open vista
of the golf course at that point rather than buildings located on
either side of Valley View Rd. Mr. Peterson said that the change
was dictated by moving the road alignment of Valley View to the
north to make a better underpass with the railroad. The number
of units was no different, only that the initial partial was split
into two sections by moving the road north.
Action Taken.
Casey moved, seconded by Schee to refer the Edenvale Concept
Plan Revisions to the staff for report and recommendation at the
next meeting.
Note: Park and Recreation Commission is currently reviewing the
concept plan revisions.
B. Proposed Edenvale Third Addition_ Preliminary Plat Requested by
Eden Land Corporation.
The planner in reviewing the Edenvale Third Addition said that in
general,the staff agreed with the plat submitted. Only in two
• areas was there a question regarding details. The planner said
the questions of Outlot I and I adjacent to Purgatory Creel:, east
of Hillcrest Courts were very close to the creek and that the
exact line was not finalized. Also, Outlot A in the NE corner
must have Village road right-of-way guaranteed and would be
worked out vrith the railroad and Edenvale.
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June 20 , 1972
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Action Taken.
Schee moved, seconded by Casey to recommend the Edenvale
Third Addition Preliminary Plat to the Council with* certain
stipulations on Outlots 1, J and Outlot A. The stipulations
regarding Outlots I and J would be set forth by Mr. Peterson
in a letter, that at the time of development or replatting that
field staking by the Village staff would then determine the
exact boundary or the nary easement along Purgatory Creek.
This boundary criould be based upon the natural land features
and also upon necessary space for park functions. Securing
of the right-of-way for Edenvale Boulevard from the Chicago
Northwestern Railroad would be guaranteed by Eden Land Corpor-
ation adjacent to Outlot A on the north or if that was not possible
the full road right-of-way would be dedicated from Outlot A.
With these stipulations the motion was to approve the Third
Addition Plat as submitted. Motion carried.
C. _Shelter Development Corporation. Briarhill Proposal, for FHA
236 Housing in E:denvaie.
• Representing Shelter, Dick Bienapfl and Jay Van Dyke. This is
the third meeting that this proposal has been before the Planning
Commission and there were some changes brought up by Mr.
Bienapfl. These changes are presented in a packet to be added
to the brochure already submitted.
The first refinement was provision of a 230 foot fence adjacent to
the railroad right-of-way on the southeasterly end of the site,
covered with heavy planting, such as brambles or prickley ash
to prevent anyone from straying on to the railroad tracks. The
change is a response to the concerns of the Planning and Park:
Commissions. Secondly, Mr. Bienapfl presented some revised
building plans that eliminated the exterior gallery on the third
floor from the apartment units. :she alternatives proposed
include: the double loaded corridor type of building with
stairways on each end. This would be used in primarily
building types A that are three stories on both sides. The
units would also include balconies to substitute for the exterior
gallery space provided on the earlier plans. Building type B
which is the apartment building that had a 2-story/3-story
arrangement ✓ould include stair towers in the buildings to serve
four units. This plan also permits inclusion of one and two
• bedroom units on the ground floor of building types B. Mr.
Van Dyke indicated that having the flexibility to use any of, the
three proposals; the gallery, the stair to'iver arrangement or the
double loaded corridor would permit flexibility in the final design
of these buildings and would provide an excellent opportunity for
building type variety.
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Mr. Bienapfl presented a letter from the Housing and Redevelopment
Authority for the City of Yontevideo that complimented Shelter on
their fine project recently completed for the elderly in Montevideo.
This project included exterior gallery corridors which in their
experience have been very successful.
Also presented was a letter from Shelter Development Corporation's
attorneys who have been investigating the provision M.S.A. 273. 13
regarding lore to moderate income housing in communities under
10 ,000. `.+:'he letter to Mr. Bienapfl dated Tune 20th from Robert
Levy, partner in the firm of• Maslon, Kaplan, Edelman, Borman,
Brand and McNulty summarized the provisions of the law, its
implications and certain actions that might be taken by Shelter
Corporation and the Village.
In the opinion of Roberta Levy when the population of Eden Prairie
goes over 10,000 persons, the application of the la-,vs Subdivision
17B would not be appropriate and that Eden Prairie would be
classified v17ith communities of over 10, 000 people. This is impor-
tant, obviously, because of the way the la:v is written. It states
that, "Not vrithstanding any other provision of law any structure
located on a municipality of less than 10, 000 population which
qualifies on Subdivision 17 and 17A shall for 15 years from the
date of completion of the original construction be assessed at 5%
of the adjusted market value thereof" . The opinion states that
. . . "Since there is no provision which specifically states that a
federal census must govern the population count . . . and because
there are strong policy reasons supporting frequent census data
indicating groimth and the need for a larger tax base the munici-
pality should be able to take its own census and when its popu-
lation grows beyond 10,000, it should be permitted to assess the
qualified propertie s at the 2 0% rate permitted in M.S.A. 2 7. 13
Suv. 17 at that point in time. "
A second concern was that of Shelter paying the community for
the tax that it *would not receive under the 5% tax law. This is
discussed in the levy opinion and certain options are outlined
in the letter.
The Planner noted that this document as well as other material
would be forwarded to Village Attorpey, Harlan Perbix, immediately
• for his recommendations. Contact with the Minnesota Attorney
General's Office and Consultation with HUD and FHA will also
be pursued. Mr. Putnam suggested that the problems relating to
the tax situation are important but that they are primarily a
function of the Village Council to consider in making the final
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June 2 0', 1972
Page Five
decision. The Park. and Recreation Commission recommended
certain things related to the open space systems,perhaps the
Planning Commission might address itself to the Planning and
human service concensus 'and indicate to the Council that the
5% provision must be investigated further, before any decision
on the project can be made. Mr. Casey disagreed with this
statement saying that he did not feel he could make a judgment
on the project not knowing the tax situations. Mir. Fosnocht
agreed and indicated his concern about reading figures presented
by HUD Secretary Romney, that subsidized projects can cost
as much as $140, 000 per unit. He would be interested in the
same type of tabulation on the Briarhill. project. Mr. Bienapfl
noted that this is not unlike any project, since normal home
mortgage interest rates can increase the value of a home by
two or three ti lies its initial cost. Given the structure of
the 236 Program the $140,000 figure includes many features
such as; operation and maintainance over a 40 year period and
is not completely representative.
Action Taken.
After a lengthy discussion regarding these matters, Brown moved,
seconded by .1 chee to recommend to the Council the rezoning of
the 10. 8 acre Briarhill site in Edenvale to RM 2 .5 in accordance
with the approved Edenvale PUD plan 70-4 and recommendations
in the staff report dated June 19, 1972. Special emphasis cnrould
be placed on item seven of the staff report, that it would be the
Planning Commission's understanding that as soon as Eden
Prairie's population reached 10,000 that the assessed valuation
of the project %,,could go from 5% under MSA statute 273 . 13
Sub. 173 to 20% as under Section 17 of that statute. Tmmediately,
not 15 years later. Also, item two ,mould be amended to include
the open space and environmental protection features of the
Briarhill plan be approved, subject to the plan'.ing of appropriate
vegetation on the steep slope along the Chicago-Northwestern
Railroad right-of—way as indicated in the Park and Recreation
report.
Motion was approved with a three to two vote. Schee asked
that a roll call be taken. Brown yes, Boerger yes, Schee yes,
• Fosnocht no, Casey no. Motion passed.
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June 20, 1972
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D. School Study and Major Center Progress Reports.
Due to the late hour, these matters were deferred until the next
meeting.
1. The planner indicated that a work meeting on the Major Center
area would be held on Thursday, June 22, at 7:30 P.M. at
the Village Hall.
2. Preliminary presentation of the joint school/village site study
will be held at the Eden Prairie High School June 29 at 8:15
P.M. to bring the School District and Village officials up to'
date on the progress thus far.
Both of these meetings are intended as work sessions and the
public and Commission members are invited.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Wayne Brown, Secretary
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