Planning Commission - 09/25/1978 •
AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, September 25, 1978
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COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Rod Sundstrom. 6':.` Wtgrath',
Matthew Levitt, Richard Lynch , Wi11 iam
Bearman, Paul Redpathx Oke Martinson
C"ISSION STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Planning Director
Jean Johnson , Pl-annfng Ass i_stant
Donna Stanley, Planning Secretary
INVOCATION - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - ROLL CALL
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II . MINUTES OF SEPT. 11 , 1978
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS _
A. Discussion of proposed u:dinance designating the Management
of Shorel and in the City of Eden Prairie; 14nd*.-Aegul atinj the
Uses and Develop" nent thereof".
V. PETITIONS AND REgUESTS
VI. OLD BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
V I I I . PLANNER"S REPORT -.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Reminder: No meeting Oct. 9 .(C0ltm4us Day)
MINUTES
EDEN ro%AIRI E PLANNING COMMISSION
. -approved
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 1978 7:30 PNi, CITY HALL
7:35 P'M, Meeting started
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Rod Sundstrom, Oke Martinson ,
Mathew Levitt, Paul Redpath,and
Richard Lynch
tOMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Liz Retterath, William Bearman
STAFF PRESENT: Jean: Johnson, Planning Assistant
Invocation - Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
NOTION: Redpath moved, Levitt seconded to approve the agenda as '
submitted. Notion carried unanimously.
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMMBER 11_ 1978 MEETING
MOTION: Levitt moved, Redpath seconded to approve the orsinutes of
the September 11 , 1978 meeting as submitted. Motion carried unanimously.
Lys-ph arrived at 7:40 PM.
I11 . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman - nxae.
B. Others
1 . Lynch reported Ban Cori appeared before the Board of Appeals
and Adjustments for a Zero lot line variance to place the
condominium garages on the property line between existing
Ridgewood Condominiums and Ban Con' s new proposal . The variance
was denied. Lynch informed the Planning Commission he raised
the question at the Board of Apppal ' s Heetiny if the site plan
change is significant enough to require reconsideration- by the
Planning Commission.
IV. REPORTS MO RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Discussion of "-oposed Ordinance designating the"Management _
of $"reland ii, the City of Eden Prairie, and Regulating the
Use, and Development thereof" .
Jean Johnson, Planning Assistant, referred the Planning Commission
to -the background traterial : State Shoreland Management Ordinance ,
Parks . Recreation and Natural Resources t'4wission' s minutes, Memo
of August 18. 1978 from Director of Com mnity Services , and Draft
No. 3 dated 8/7/78 City Shoreland Management Ordinance. The shore-
land areas of .jw City's lakes and creels were then outlined on the
approved
Minutes - Planning Commission - 3 - September 25, 1978
The Planning Commission requested that the Staff check to see if a
Joint Meeting between the PRNR and Planning Commission could be
arranged to discuss the Shoreland Management Ordinance.
The Planning Commission then directed the Staff to prepare the
following for the upcoming meeting:
List of existing ordinances already addressing Purpose or
regulating l akeshore/lake use.
Comparison of present zoning regulations to those proposed
in Draft #3.
Outline Draft Ordinance #3 where it is more restrictive
than DNR Rules and Regulations.
omissions, typos, etc:
-Riley Creek omitted from page 1, Sec. II ,Subd. l
-spelling of 'may' , page 4, 2nd sentence from bottom
-spelling of 'space' , page 17, #4 at top of page
M9•jon:
ek� pd af�i muved, Levitt seconded, to hold a special meeting on Monday,
October 16, 1978, at 7:30 PM, to discuss the Shoreland Ordinance, and
direct staff to arrange a joint meeting with the Parks , Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission the same evening to discuss the ordinance.
!Ration carried unanimously.
approved
Minutes - Planning Commission - 2 - September 25, 1978
A. Discussion of proposed Ordinance designating the "Management of
Shor: and i n the City nf Fdpn era i ri a , and RPnii at i nn thA Ilea-1
anC. DevelopTent thereof ' . cont
map and a brief review of the Planner' s Memo of September 21 , 1978
was given.
Lynch asked who drafted the City Shoreland Ordinance and criteria
of lake classification and restrictions. Johnson replied the PRNR
Commission was directed by the Council to draft an ordinance to comply
with State legislation otherwise Eden Prairie would be required to
follow the State Rules and Regulations.
Johnson added the Park & Recreation staff drafted the basic ordinance,
it has been reviewed and revised by tiie PRNR Commission, and the PRNR
Commission has asked the Planning Commission to review the No . 3 draft
and return with comments to the Commission prior to submission of
ordinance to Council for review and possible adoption.
The Commission then reviewed the ordinance page by page and noted the
following items, concerns, suggestions, et::.
Sundstrom noted that PUBLIC DISTRICT was not included in Section :III .
Zoning Restrictions , pp. 12 - 15.
Lynch asked if the ordinance regulates airplane use of lakes . Johnson
replied negative, adding plane operations do occur on Bry►aht' s
Long Lake , and such operations are being reviewed in the Guide Plan
Update. Levitt and Lynch believed plane operations are dangerous on
the recreational used lake of Bryant.
Redpath believed the $5.00 permit fee, p.8, would be insufficient to
cover City staff receival , review, inspection, record keeping, etc. , and
should be increased.
Lynch questioned the classification of Smetana Lake as Natural Environ-
ment, as Condon/Naegele' s development would not meet the criteria & there
will be future Industrial /commercial uses around the lake.
Levitt believed increasing minimum lot width on lakeshore lots would
protect the lakes better than the present minimums, i .e. 100' widths/
400' deep.
Lynch inquired if Lake Tobias (Idelwild) is an unnamed lake and if it could
be named.
The Commission concurred with the Planner's memo of September 21 , 1978 ,
that zoning restrictions in Draft No. 3 would make development diffi-
cult and costly. They believed stricter restrictions on Lakeshore lots -`
would be beneficial , but the remainder of area within a shoreland could
be developed as per ordinance, based upon how well such developments
have worked to date under present City ordinances and review procedures.
Sundstrom inquired if applicants would be required to apply through a
PUD.
approved
Minutes-Planning Commission -4- September 25, 1978
V. PETITIONS AND REOUESTS
VI. OLD BUSINESS none
VII . NEW BUSINESS none
VIII .PLANNER` S REPORT
Johnson briefed the commission on the following upcoming projects:
-Charlson Estates , 5 acre lots in SW area of City
-Torisa Development, 13,500 lots in NW area of City
-Corporate Office, West of US 169 and South of Rowl and• Road
-Thrift-way Foods , on Titus property, north of West 78th Street
-Revised Gold Medallion PUD
-Stewart Sandwiches rezoning for expansion
-Round Lace Estates 2nd Additicin -
-BarMil , Applebaums/Savings & Loan ./ etc. , south of EP Hnmart Center
The Commission requested that information pertaining to upcoming projects
be submitted to the commission as *early as possible, earlier than the
previous request of 10 days prior to hearing , if at all possible.
MEETING CANCELLATION
As Columbus Day will be Monday, October 9th, the following motion was made:
Lynch moved, Redpath seconded, to cancel the regularly scheduled meeting
of Monday, October 9,1978 as it falls on a national holiday. Notion
carried unanimously.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Martinson moved, Levitt seconded, to adjourn at ^.205 PM. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean Johnson
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