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AGENDA
FdPn Prairie Planninn rewo"iecinn
Monday- .;une 12. 1978
7: 30 PM, City Hall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
COMIrIISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom+, Paul Redpath, Richard Lynch , Liz
Retterath, William Bearman, Matthew Levitt,
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Planning Director; Jean Johnson ,Planning
Assistant; Jim Jensen , Planning Assist-ant
7 :30 I . APPROVAL OF AGNEDA
7:35 II . APPROVAL OF THE MAY 229 1978 MINUTES
7:40 III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Cha .man Sundstrom
B. Others
IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
1:45 A. Norman Addition , by Dirlam Properties and Norman Clark. Request to
rezone rrom Rura to R1-13. 5 and preliminary plat 6. 5 acres into
13 single family lots. The site issDuth of Duck Lake Trail at
18061 Duck Lake Trail . A continued public hearing.
8:00 B. Super Vdlu Stores, Inc. , request to preliminary plat and rezone
from Rural to Community Commercial 13 acres located in the South-
east intersection of Co.Rd. 18 and Anderson Lakes Parkway for a
supern.arket, hardware and drug store. A public 'waning.
8:30 C. Lake Trail Estates, by Clifton J. Swenson b Arvid Schmertz.
Request to rezone from Rural and R1-22 to R1-13.5,RM 6-.5 3 Public ,
preliminary platting of approximately 27 acres into 36 single
family homes and 10 double lots, and 1 church lot. Site
located north of TH 5, South of Round Lake. East of Round Lake
Estates. and lest of Kirk Meadows. A public hearing.
9:00 V' . PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
VI OLD BUSINESS
9:05 W11 NEW BUSINESS
•l0 VIII . PLANNER' .3 REPORT
A. Road construction program.
9:45 Ix. ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COW11iSSIOM
approved
Monday, June12, 1978 7 : 30 PM City Hall
C011-MISSI Y►l PREI_=?V1 : i' , chard Lync .( V ic. President), W.i l l iam Bearman , Paul
Pr%Anith Fe,+ +a i .,,,; +4-
COHiMISSION ABSENT: Pod `and trocr (Cl,e,? rs'?an j , Liz Retterath
STAFF P► ESE!IT: Chris Fnger, Plar+^inq Director ; JUr'I son , Plar.-,-ing
Assistant
I . APPI:OVAL_OF AGENDA -
Bearman i+ioved ,' Rednath seconded , to approve the agenda as submitted.
Motion cerried' unanimously.
11 . MINUI ES OF -.- HE NAY 22, 1978 MEE TI'IG
P. II)VI . , b.
Bearman rr,- , Rcd1pa t
•cd i to ar,irove thr= minutes as sul0ini tied
ana corrected. Motion carried unanimously.
III . ME113FRS R£P,M)
A. Cnair.wan%Vice-Chairman. none
B . Others .
1 . Bearman inquirer' it the Co;m--;i !:sion would i ike me inerit,_r to attend
the counc-i I meting being conduct upstairs at which
i�a 5 A.greeirient for their rezosli ng of the Bryant Lake s i to lei 11
be discussed .
Amer discuss?on it was dec 1 Ucd all tour members of the cn-r,i i se innr
present shoo l % remain .
IV . REPORTS AND RFCG'��;E�;;1�tT i0y5
A. Norman Addition , by Dirlaill Pr°ouer-tics and Norman Clark . Requ,C?s% to
rEzon���_.�„ Rural to R1-13 . 5 and prel iminary slat 6 . � ac�.P, 1l11:G 13
s i ngl a 1-anti ly lots. The site is youth of Duck Lake Trail a L 1S06I
Duck Lake Trail , A continued public hearing .
The Planner referred the commission to the revised plat dated May , 1978 , and
the revised reports of June 9th and ,tune 6th. He stated the staff is recommendinc;
approval of the request as pet, th- staff reports .
Mr. Peterson: , Dirlam Properti--�s , stated a cul -de--sac extension from the east
was more feasible than from the west. The c0--de sac will serve six lots and
the remainder of the lots will have access froin Duck Lake Trail . He believed
the drainage problems of Sterling Field and Hidden Ponds have been adequately
addressed by the plan prope-a::d and the plan is approved by the Engineering
Department.
Fir. Peterson stated he d sagr-ees with one point of the staff report ; he
prt!;.oses sonic other type of ownership of the c-Alot than extending the lot
lines to include it as the staff is reco�orending .
Bearman inquired how ;-any IuLs fronted nn Duck Lake Trail in the origine !
plat. Peterson replied six.
Bearman asked if the Public. Safety Depart—wnt has reviewed the plat relative
to emergency vehicle accessibility. The Planner replied U',ie staff did Bugg'-st
a through s troet, but dt.t- to rats i .jr±tii> ►�.•;.J concer:-y the sieve r oper has redesigned
the plat and el imiiiated the t!irough street.
approved
Planning C(mi ss i on Minutes -2- June 12, 1978
Redpath asked if Sterling Field will be bearing some of the utility costs.
Mr. Peterson replied negative.
Bob Pemberton,18070 Se. Shore Lane, asked at what elevation the pond
would be. Mr. Peterson replied the water is presently at 901 .8, it would
be louvered to 899. 2 with an overflow swaie at 901 .8 . Peterson added the
site would be serviced with a pipe or storm water pond, he prefers the
pond and the city has reconmended' a pipe.
F!-r•, Bowser ,7043 park Vint: 13^e ' b0l IC•Ved a Nike would act as a dam in
the proposed location.
The {Tanner suggested if the ownership of the pond area can be resolved , then
pondi ng a.,*ul d be feasi tl e.
M'oti on 1 :
Bearsian roved, Redpath seccrded , to close the public hearing un Norman
Addition. Motion carried unanir.ously.
(lotion 2:
r e�':a t% seconded , to recoo-i-nend to the City Council a norova l of
10—man 'dditjon rezoning front Rural to RI-13. 5 as per the plan dated �•.ay, 1973 ,
and suh ec+ to the staff reports of `Sav 3 , June 00 , ,with items 2 and 5 of the
Juno 9rh r_port to be ►• ,orked-Girt beltureen the City and Owner so option of pond
owner-ship, o h2r than City, is possible. Motion carried unanimously.
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.,,,,:..�i . r:t:jr8 :.r: 10'C,0%Acd , to : ,_cG�,�n�nd to the ity Co;;rc; . w,,Y;��Ju of
the i'lat � t,cd i'a�r, I3i? as per the staff ;,e -orts of r'ey ' , and Jane 9th with
ite,�� ?�►�c' S t^ c; Ltircr,'EG-uut 25 e;:p" Pinjfid in "o';iGn 2. ,Motion carried
unan sl V.
Inr- . , renuest to preliminary plat and rezone from Rural
tr. C. ! 0 acres located in thn southwest corner of
Cn, i',`) . 1 �► . r.r� }�;" ,:r� La%es Par'-way for a super-mart,et , htct"dv13rf Store
dnd druS star;,. A poFl is ne-ring.
;r, t; :c�. :��, S ,;►e�• ►'alr� , relrit-�:ed site plans fc•r• their proposed 27,500
plus ? id; iir:r.ii finor space of 40j,00 -.quire feet for
!'sa•" r':?r'i �..rl o;1!,-r Pe a 1 .1r, d'l �,,_u_ssv : tre loo rrwinq and landsc;; 'in'�
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to; �i , f er the s 4c,re, from
the . r, •r.; . •r-� s Ic f arni ly. ► it foie► cl the the C^,lot
has r:1L i. , v d ', '^ I ..'.cf:ss re, wc tv Cr% r d. I . He. -taEed Super Valu met
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approved
Planning CorrPnission Minutes June 1.2, 1978
Lynch asked for explanation of "controlled access" ar used in the County
Highway letter of June 12, 1978. The P1 anner re-?1 i ed the County is attempting
to limit access to Co. Rd . 18, it does not refer to signalized access .
The Planner stated it is the staff' s suggestion that Bloomington , Eden Prairie
and Super Yalu request study of the need of a signalized intersection with
cost sharing by all .
Mr. Jim Ryan stated they wnuld be willing to share in the cost Of a signal
at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Co. Rd. 18.
Bearman questioned if semi-trucks could maneuvers the Anderson Lakes. Parkway
entrance from Co. Rd. 13.
Lynch suggested the upgrading of Anderson Lakes Parkwc.y be studied by the
staff.
Beaman asked if the supermarket would be a corporate store. her. Poffenberger,
Super Valu, replied it would be rented to Derry's Super Valu.
Mr. John Petty , 9154 Neill Lake Road , opposed the request because: 1 . it is
not needed , 2. safety hazards , and 3. aesthe-ics would Cunflict with Anderson
Lakes Park.
Mr. Robert Louisiana , 9525 Garrison, 'Hay , stated the traffic problems are his
major concern with the project.
Carol Elavi;a 9 9200 r^. Rc+. 18 , opposedre 9 t , .c
�:�z zorir. due to the raff-'
hazards along Co .Rd . 18 a-?d t1,, Anderson Lakes Inte,�section. She believed
the proposed shopping center across 18 in Bloomington and this one would he
too much for the area to support and cause i:icreased traffic congestion and
- hazards .
Bruce Anderson 9130 Neill Lake Road , stated he would prefer to see the
supermarket, in the Eden Prairie Shopping Centear ..
Bill Ste;nbecker , 9152 Pr'eill 'Lake Road, bcl ievcd -the supermarket would hinder
the character of the Anderson lakes Park and Tht- Preserve .
Tim Hansen , 9500 Ga, risnn Way, felt the grocer Y store use would be azceptatle
but the area does not need hardware anti additional shops .
fir• Torger•son .9320 Co . Rd. 189 objected to the increased noise the market
trafficwou;d produce.
Mr. Poffenherger s.tatc-d a ZentPr close to residential conserves energy; .
anei t hP v wi 11 +ry +„
.. J •y .. �•.. , ,. •6&:,1-4 Ut:_ it+.i. &L Z1 .S v` %, s- - - i ii Lddna Wi Stare In the
cost •-, a signal to helP allCVic:l;e the traffic j;roblems .
!'dot inn:
i-ri6' ;roved . I evi t:;_ sccorced , to con _J rase th.- Super Va i u request to June 2.6
to liive the fol lowin^ ror,;rrns stud Zoo fi!rther :
1 . necessity of sic;na I iz,iticn of Co. Rd . 18 R Ande-i-son Lakes Parkway.
2. turn lan,� for a.3•,r:::ay i:idr.nind
3. SO to) (Al" the ..hopni r,9 center cast of 18.
4 . total si(lanrlr If�it.I%iq.r,
5. fattier- (Ir^ut.h P.IA ?S elf the shnt)i)ing center.
6• or left turn off" rf Ili.
7. rxi.- pion of A►lfier,,c;n !.sakes Pm,*k,,•r,�y vast of IP.
approved
Planning Commission -4- June 12, 1978
C. Lake Trail Estates ,, by Clifton Swenson & Arvid Schwartz. Request to
rezone from Rural and R1-22 and R1-13. 5. RM 6. 5 and Public, preliminary
platting of approximately 27 acres into 36 single family homes and 3
double lots , and 1 church site. Site is located north of TH 59
South of Round Lake, East of Round Lake Estates , and West of Kirk
Meadows. A public hearing.
The Planner referred the commission to the staff report June 9. lie then
introduced Steve Young , Bruce Knutson Architects , who would present the proposal .
Steve Young stated the road system within the plat is based upon the recent
sanitary sewer plan of the City' s and the accesses to TH 5 have bees; approved
by the Minnesota Highway Department. He said no- variances from the ordinance
are being requested with the average single family lot size 15,000 square feet.
Mr. Young then reviewed the landscaping plan of berms and planting between TH5
and the project , and between the church site and the residential . Mr. Young
stated they are in agreement with the staff .report, but would suggest the trails
be staged, not required prior to construction.
Levitt asked if a church is interested in building imunediately. Mr. Young
replied affirmative.
Pastor Liesenner stated the church wishes to
carmence building as soon as possible.
Mr. Rousseau , 7741 Heritage Road , P;:pressed concern that school traffic would use
the residential streets . He then suggestL� a through street via Luther tray to
U . N. 4 would help alleviate the extreme traffic hazard that exists at Heritage
Road and TH 5.
Donna Boller 7690 Heritage Road , expressed disappointment of not beinc
notified of the recent road decision of permanently cul -de-lacing Luther May.
Steve Young stated they could redesign and acccxiunodate a throligh street via Luther
Way if it is recommendcd by the City.
Mr. Westlake ,i;10 Heritage Road , req!seltad access to TH 5 be upgraded prior to
any additional projects being approved.
Mr. Pavelka , 16725 Luther Way, approved of the project as submitted stating Luther
Way is inadequate in size and condition to handle additional traffic.
Mr. Qoen , - 7 760 Heritage Road, requested Heritage Road residents be
notified in the future of road decisions in the area .
Motion 1 :
ai•iiian i;wvc'd , Rvdpath seconded, to close th^ public hearing on Lake Trail
Estates. Motion carried unanignvsly.
approved
Planning Commission -5- June 12, 1978
Motion c
Bearman moved, Redpath seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval
of rezoning of Lake Trail Estates Troir o F.1.-13 5 s RM 6 5
and Public as per the staff report of June 9, 1978 and the engineering report
of June 6, 1978. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 3:
Be'Z"M-%:; ;;"' Redpat`- seconded, to recommitend to the City Council dei>>al of
the preliminary plat of Lake Trail `states , dated May 8 , 1978 , because the
traffic problems are such in the entire area that no further developmrnt
shculd occur until a road network is designed to meet concerns of safety,
residents, and the city.
Discussion:
Levitt questioned if the Valley View Road extension would help alleviate the
traffic con(lestion. lie felt it caused 'hardship without direct resol4 - ion
of the traffic problem and is the result of prior decision to close Luther stay .
Bearman believed the area needs another through street , running east ; rarest ,
between TH 5 and Valley View Road .
Lynch stated he could not recommend placing any more traffic on TH 5 in t6iis
area of the city .
Vote: Motion carried 3 : I with Levitt voting nay.
V. PFTITTONS AND RFOUESTS
VI . OLD BUSINESS
V-1 I . NEWI BUSINESS
VIII . PLANNER ; S REPORT
A. Road Co!istruct ion. Program
The Planner referred the Co^»mission to t`;c !,av R. 197A ent ineer' s ra"1►-t
and the attached map outlining Lhe road i;i2;�;-o•;e:rents co���. a�'red .
'the Conni s s i on hr i e 1y d i s us-sed the road it -proven p:;d acreed to
contact the city engineer or other c i t} staff with qucs t ;ons d�
IX. ADJOI-IRNMEN
Bearmani%ovcd , Redpath seconded, to adjourn at 10: 35 PM. Notion
Carried unanimously.
Respectfully suix.1tted ,
Jcan Jehoson
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