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Planning Commission - 05/22/1978 Y� 4 A G E N D A Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, May 22, 1979 3:30 rA q City Hall Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom, Liz Retterath, Richard Lynch, Bill Beaman, Matthew Levitt,Paul Redpath I$ stimated STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger Director UA Planning , Jean Johnson, Planning T;me Assistant, Jim Jensen, Planning Assistant 7:30 PM I. APPROv L OF AGENDA 7:35 II . MINUTES OF THE MAY 81 1978 MEETING 7:40 III . MEMBERS REPORTS { . CFd- i rman B. Others IV. REPORTS AND REC%iMENDATIONS 7:ti� A. Norman Addition, by Nor•maii Clark and Dirlam ►Properties. equest for rezoning from Rural to R1--13.5 and preliminary plat approval of 6. 5 acres into 13 lots. The site is south of Duck Lake Trdi1 at 18061 Duck Lake Trail . A continued public hearing. 8: 20 8. Olympic Hills Fifth Addition, by Olympic Hills Corporation. Request for rezoning from Rural to R1-13 .5 and preliminary plat approval of 11 . 5 acres into 20 lots. The site is located Borth of Pioneer Trail and hest of Olympic Hills Golf Course. A public hearing. 9:4u C. Amsden Hills IV Additions The Preserve , request to rezone from to RM 6. 5 for 5 acres and preliminary plat approval of 11 duplex lots. A continued public hearing. 8:05 D. Crosstown Ba tist Church, Review of site- plan. Church site is located a t 65no a ker vad. Y. OLD BUSINESS 8:55 A. Planning Reference File VI ._. NEW BUSINESS V11 . PLANNER' S REPORT - VIII . A13JOURWINT There are also special stickers available for invalids or those MIYOUR THUMB IS s v _. . . . . . who are unable to help themAalves. The City of Eden Prairie will Fire Cheif Mitchell abked that a din provider reminder be made to families using again garden plots 20�a30' the Red Ball ati:3cer' to remove or ,'ln t2-�a Preserve this year. Since replace them when moving, or whoa �.he School Park site can po longer Na child changes bedrooms. This used ..he Preserve developer has wa the e available a gardening area y program can eontimxn to be '. beyond the Center way dead an effective one, and near Aorthmark II. according If you would like stickers or more to Sandi Aorta, Recreational information, call Marilyn Mitchell supervisor, the city will plow, �t 9a - disc and fertilize the soil and a 2"9• provide a holding Lank of water for your flowers and vegetables. Toni Anderson The cost will be $5.00 for one lot and $8.00 for two. You may Dear preserve Residents, ick up a registration form at the ,Preserve Center or call Sandi It seems that as we approach 6artz at 941 -2262. warmer weather the incidents of theft and vandalism become more -- S A? I�,17TY frequent. The Crime Prevention :00p.m. Eden Prairie High School Unit of your Public Safety Dapt. urges you to call 544-9511 to Room 203 For one night only report all auspicious activity or crimes that are occurring in Tsugbt by a MASTER GARDENER your area. If you have informa- tion on a crime thst has already occured and you wish to remain Cal?. Sandi hertz at 941 -2262 totally anonymous please call 944-2288. Thank you for your particip+ttion in Crime Prevention. RZLRAT OR RSD BALL childrenewithr s thebikes�and trikes . t Pperation Red Ball, is a program Flease remind your children to nsored by our Fire Department ride on the paths and sidewalks. promote safety oT our children. A 50 lb. child on a bike is no • in case of fire. Maybe you have match :cr a 3,000 lb. car. It seen the red bail-shaped sticko:s might also be :+►nll to remind your in some windows in the neighbor- children about playing around the hood. The stickers, placed in Douses under construction. Thera pindows-one sticker for each child are many items In these areas tsar ir_ 4 rvom-quickly enable the fire- *an be hazar4ous to your children. Oen to identify which rooms to enter first, and precious moments Respectively, may be saved this way. Roger Danielski Page 1S LETTERS TO VACANCY 1�I O '�A THE EDITOR Sign Pos ted at Preserve Stables To Preserve Residents: The Pre3erve stables are at Several residents have requested capacity this spring with 36 ho that the Preserve Association look according to Lisa Lahti, stable into areas that could provide manager. "It~ fact, there is a savings to its ambers, waiting list for boarding horses,"she said. 3ove of the areas using the Preserve Bloomington Police department Association as an entity whereby has three horses boarding at the we would realise as much as a 2% stable. With spring here and sum- discount, are listed below: her on the way, the department will use the horses in mounted patrol GREMERY situations. The horses and riders trees, shrubs, sod operate under the park security BUILDMOr l4ATERIALS unit and patrol park areas, beach paint, stain, wallpaper, and picnic areas and are also used asphalt, drivewaya, lumber for stadium events such as the TRAVn SMVICE Ricks soccer games and Vikings BANKING SERVIChS football. loans and savitigs (not a 20% Officials nf the Preserve discount) stared that there will not be the We're interested in your opinion in annual bores show this year. this area. It sure t:tere are many George 3chel other opportunities that could be made available to Preserve Residents so please let us knew. We will establish a subeowmittee HOW TO RESERVE THE CWTU chairperson t_ look into these FOR PRIVATE USE matters rnd advise the residents of t any oppo- .,unities to move. There Contact the Preserve will be no obligation to anyone, secretary or Jack Darling at only those intereated may take ad-- 941 -8400 with the date in mind vantage of any programs that fit and the name of the group and ' their needs. Please call Jack the approximate number expected. Darling - 941-8400 - with your A deposit id required and a Ideas. charge of $1 .00 per person attending is also required. Each John e group does its own clearir..g .*resident t - after the event or pays to have Fruserve Association a pz ')fession&l cleaner do the job. Page 14 from the M*Djj � E 0 A Visit with LEE JOHNSON Vice President Ebgineering and The Neill Lake Condominiums, east Construction of the Ridgewood Condominiums are Preserve Developer Spokesmar currently under the design Pand review process with the Preserve NSTRUCTION and the City. The 70 luxury units-very cimi?ar to Chelsa With the warmth of spring and Woods-will be built by Ban Con summer just around the scorner Inc. Site plans are available Preserve residents will again for viewing at the Preserve Cen- experience the noise and dust of ter. the increased construction_ activ- ity. Lee Johnson has brought us The developer is in the process vp to date on just whatts going of requesting that the city to be happening. approve the addition of some double buAgalow lots on the cor- East of the pool, the masonery ner of Franlo Road and Anderson work has been atarted on the Lakes Parkway. Neill Lake Apartments. They should be ready for occupancy Certainly by the end of this this fall. summer the appearance of the Preserve will again have changed Righpoint III, an area just be- a great deal. rood the Neill Lake Apartments con- tains four double bungalows-all of which have been sold. The AM�jsSS first two are near eompleticn and ekould be ready ''or occupancy in Residents in Northmark II and ys Amsden Hills have requested that their tot lots be completed as We already have some new neigh- soon as possible. Mr Johnson says bors in Hidden Oaks and home con- that he cen understand those res- struction has begun in Garrison idents' concerns over a safe puce IT. for their children to play and that tot lot construction will cently street and utility con- begin as soon as possible after ruction for the models in Ams- -the Spring clean up. Both areas Bien II was begun and soon we will will have facilities similar to aee the same type of activity in Weetwind with 2 swings, a slide, Highpoint IV bordering the golf' climbing apparatus and sand. The course, exact location of the Ansder_ Hills tot lot has now been chosen; it The zoning and preliminary plans is near the intersection between for Anaden III were approved by Ameden Way and Garrison Way. the City Council on April 4th. (White House con 't page 10) Page 9 JM Spring '1978 DUB00 aoOaC at the Preserve Center 8 :00 P.M. to 12 "LADY RALPH DISCO EXPERIENCE" WITH SELECT SO= AND LIG.i T I;:C Roxanne Walker, disco instructor, Will be available during the evening to give bask lessons . Those interested in having a disco dance class in the future can tali Roxanne Walker. She is available for teaching the latest disco dances in smell groups. A dance class can be started if you will call Barbara Kelly at 941-5994 ADMISSION $2.00 per person Preserve Teens (including Preserve Teens) 12 to jVyearb All gusts of the same age REFRESHMENTS PROVIDED WELCOMEI The male Man - John. Retter a h was late getting my article in because I came down with the Ru::sian Flu. I know I heal it because I had this unbelivable thirst for vodka on a flight between Minneapolis and Houston. I read an article about kids in the suburbs miasing a plot of living which city kids are ex- posed to because of the chemistry of being around more people. I'll give some ideas in the sports section. Well, on to imT- tvements. Everyone is aware of dogs; licensing for them; twenty-five dollars for picking them up but who gets away with murder? Who is out during the spring and summer killing emall ground birds? The common household cat. Cat lover$, this spring it would be in improvement if you over- fed your cat before you Iet iu out so it would not eat those cheerful, colorful ground birds. Since many cats do not, last spring I saw three cats carrying small, limp, little birds. asports, as a youth we played Uity Wide Tag . We started with Block Tag and worked up to City Wide Tag. Living in the city, we could do that. The rules were: say four kids on a side that the first teak would get a three minute head start, then the chasers took off after theca. It's like an early varsion of the TV program "Shi:-ts and Skins".' What does this have to do with city and suburb kids? Well, with the e paths and countryside, the youngesters could have as much fun here in the city. Footnote: This year I hope Jim Guy and Dave Anderson e a "root beer" wager on our Preserve Softball Game. I'm tired of running around the bases playing against the "West Winders" and "North Markers" without some refreshments. Government: It's interesting to noto that with the large increase in the numbers of people in the Preser . 3, what effect we could have in the local election. Continue to take an active interest in goverment and for those that Are new, registration forms will be placed down at the Center. Page 17 Spring 1973 News from the CENTER USE A remindek- to residents to try 2 r;M� use and maintain our Center as (t11 L� W l! it were your own home. we all 1pf for repairs and upkeep so please EH T3 [E Uno o help keep it nice. Three new ban- UV quet tables have been purchased recently fir use in the Center. PRESERVE CLEAN-UP SATURDAY TENNIS LESSONS A community effort for clean road- Tennis lessons will be offered ways and litter pickup has been through the Presgrve Association suggested by Ralph Melson of Bass- for minimal cost this spring. woods. One Saturday this spring will be set aside as cleanup day. NEW CENTER HOURS Ralph suggests that youngsters, teenagers, moms and dads partici- pate in keeping our comet►rnity nest beginning in May the Preserve and clean. Center will be open from 1OsO0 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Tuesday thru The cleanup would work like this; Sunday. Exact date will be pub- each participant would pick tip lished in next P„oserve bulletin. some large garbage bags and pro- TENNIS ceed to a main thoroughfare in tha --_- Preserve to pick up litter. The bags will then be moved to the The Tennis committee is still ac- street where the Preserve truck cepting names of any women inter- will pick them up. ested in playing daytime teruiis on a regular or substitute basis. A project such as this takes some Alsor anyone who is interested in real organization. we need vol- mixed doubles call Barb Kelly at unteers from each Preserve area. 941-5994 or Jennifer McIntosh a If you're interested, call Ralph 941 -8692. Nielson at 944-3566 or Jack at the Center at 941 -8400. Further in- Z? formation will be In the next bul- ril letin. COME TO THE FIRST ANNUAL oe w4 PRESERVE CLEsAH UP DAY Z '0111 any Design Review con t) ,gyp Planas changes and proposals Mao Gleam be submitted to any committee mem- PApER TUBES ber of Design Review, or they may be left with the secretary at the Newspaper Preserve Information Center. Com- p per tubes are available at uittee members are: Debbie Tim- the Centex-no cost-just pick them =erman, chairperson: Bob McFadden up during regular business hours. and Liz Retterath. George Schell Page 8 �iis Spring 1978 pproved Planning Commission Minutes -4- May 229 1978 Lynch inquired if the revised plan would conform to the anticipated realigr!!ent of Baker Road as was discussed during the rezoning process. The Planner replied the church is providing sufficient right-of-way but the alignment is not* in the County' s Five Year Improvement Plan. Redpath asked where the church would keep their buses until a suitable on-site facility is built. Pastor Cornelius responded the buses would be kept off site until the proper wail and plantings are in place. Lynch inquired if the existing residence would be retained. Pastor Cornelius responded the home would be occupied by the caretaker. Sundstrom inquired why recreational uses as depicted in the original approval are not included. The Planner replied the building is considerably larger than the one approved in 1976 and therefore the open space remaining has been reduced. Lynch asked if the revised site plan requires any variances. The Planner replied negative. Motion tedpa h moved, Lynch seconded , to recommend approval of Phase 1 construction of Crosstown Baptist Church contingent upon the staff report of 5-18-78 and the plans dated 5-11-78. Motion carried unanimously. V. OLD 3USINESS A. Planning Reference File It was agreed the Chainnan would meet with the City staff to develop the file fvmat. VI. NEW BUSINESS A. vacation of, o� rtior; of Amsden Hills Road. Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the vacation of 'old' Amsden Hills Road from Anderson lakes Parkway to Franlo Road. Motion carried unanimously. B. Vacation of portion of Homers rd Hills Road. .synch moved, Retterath seconded,, to recommend to the City Council approval of the vacation of that portion of Homeward Hills Road from Bluffs Boulevard to Riverview Road. Motion carried unansly. YII. PLANNER' S REPORT A. anner reported the Guide flan Update is anticipated to be referred to the commissions soon. B. Planner reported he would update the commission next meeting regarding City's road construction prop:w IX. ADJOURNMERT Lynch mov , Searman seconded, to adjourn at 10:00 M. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson 9051 Neill Lake Road Eden Prairie, MN 55343 June 8, 1976 Mr. Don Sorensen 7121 Willow Creek Road Eden Prairie, MN 55343 ' Dear Mr. Sorensen: I am writing to you with regard to the proposed apartment complex on Neill Lake Road, presently- before the Planning Commission, As a resident who has invested a substantial amount of money in a single family detached home which would look directly on to this rental apartment complex, I would like to state • that I ant totally opposed to a rental and/or multi-family complex going in across the street from sty homa. My objec- tions to the plan are as follows: 1. 'There are many children in our residential nei hborhood between the ages of 3 and 13 including my two Eughters - ages 9 And 1. I believe that this type of rental apart- ment building world create a substantial amount of traffic on our residential street, thusly jeopardizing the general welfare of our children. 2. The plan is a change in the original proposed use of the land, which was owner--occupied condominiums, to rental apartments . 3. The rental apartment complex with the substantial amount of blacktopped parking area and the large massing of one -� structure would create a tremendous amount of potential pollution to the lake and the ground water sys teas. there has been no environmental impact study dome specifically for this project with regard to the lake ind Mild life that this particular aparlm nt complex w~:::d j mega;di,;..a. Also, to my knowlBags the Departs ant of Natural Resources has not studied t s Matter and given their opinion. �. 3 have discussed with real estate firsts what :his type of developmeu-;� would do to my property values. 1%* consensus is that I would lose approximately 1QX to 15% of my iv%i.tial purchase prig. Mr. Don Sorensen June 8, 1976 Page ` uo 5. igu ��. � it ,pot,Qata _qorder Clsre resentatiuns­by T'h�.�,Reserve-_to- myself_ -:-..Ad iyartmus l, �.�i� a.nt rc^tea- w2 f jet er re_ rv_ L �„�owth�de�t��o�ent 6. I would suggest that you talk to people who live in single family detached homes were there are multi. -family rental apartment complexes adjacent to their property and see what their opinions are with regard to living next door to or across the street from renal apartment ^/1MP\1 AVAt Since the developer and the various builders have nany months to plan and organize their presentation and have the financial resources to produce the documents that would support their position, and the Planning Commission has the staff of Eden Prairie to evaluate the developer 's and builders' plans and give their analysis and opinions to the Commission, you m%Wt see the inequity that exists here. The residents -- beln . I fragmented group -- are only aware of projects of this t) ;• � n their final stages and not having any financial resources available to them as an organization because no organization exists, they must first organize themselves to levy the membership of the organization for a pooling of financial resources and then hire somebody to analyze the documents that were produced by the staff of Eden Prairie and the developer and builders, formulate their objections in presentation form, and then present these in an articulate concise manner to the Planning Commission. This takes a great deal of time and effort on the part of the residents , and we feel that we should have as much time as the developer, builders, and staff of Eden Prairie have had to produce their case. Since the above is rarely possible, the citizens must look to their elected and appointed officials to exercise their own good judgment in not only protecting the environment and stimulating growth in the community, but also in representing their constituents . I would ask that you apply the "prudent Person rule" to your decision with regard to voting "yes" or 'no" on the Neill Lake Road rental apartment complex. By using this rule, you would have to put yourself in the position of the resident who has purchased a home directly across the street from the proposed project, and who has invested well over $70,000. If you were that individual, would you then vote "yes" for a rental apartment complex across the ,street from your home? Or would your vote more likely be "no"'? s -...� -�.�.s.s..rc...�aa•-• aiRs�-''7�i1+' -vwcrrr: • f Mr. Don Sorensen June 8, 1976 Page Three We are asking for your "no" vote on the proposed rental apartments on Neill Late Road at the Planning Cownissio meeting on June 14. ,. s ti S cerely yours, m B TB:ab