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Planning Commission - 04/10/1978 t A G E N D A Eden Prairie Punning C ission Monday, April 10, 1978 7:30 PM City Hall Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roil Call COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom, Retterath, McCulloch, Lvnch, Bearmran, Redpath, Levitt Estimated STAFF MEMBERS: Planning Director Chris Enger, Planning Assistant Times Jean Johnson 7:30 PM I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 7!35 II . MINUTES OF THE _MARCH 27, 1978 MEETING 7:40 III. MEMBERS REPORTS A. haI man B. Others 7:45 IV. REPORTS AND RECO MENDATIONS 8: 10 A. Prairie East 4th 5th & 6th Additions by Hustad Development oar rezoning of approximately 70 acres from Rural to R1-13.5 and RM 6.5, and preliminary plat approval for approximately 200 units of single family and quadramoiniums. The additions are located in the NW and NE quadrants cf Co.Rd.1 8 Franlo Road. A continued public hearing. 8:30 B. Prairie East 7th 8th 19th Additio_,nst request by Hustad Developm�Ev or rezoning ofapproxi ate y acres from Rural to RM 6.5, and preliminary plat approval of approximately 2M units. The addi- tions are located e.sst and west of Linden Drive, West of Co.Rd,18. A continued public hearing. 8:45 C. Ban-Can, request for building design approval for owner occupied townhouses on the 'Ridgewood Soutn' site zoned FM 2.5. Continued. 9: 15 D. Bachman-Anderson Center request by Bachman-Anderson, Inc. , for rezon ng rom Rural to ffice for approximately 12 acres located no;,-th of Anderson Lakes and South of I-494. Continued. 9:45 E. Tamarac Woods, Edenva 1 e Inc. , request for rezoning from Rural to RI- d—n4preiiminary plat approval of 8.5 acres for 13 angle family lots. Located west of Edenvale Boulevard, and Southmst of Hipp' s Cedar Point Townhouses. A continued public Waring. Y. PETITT�DRE EST. 10:00 -VI . OLD BUSINESS - V I I . NEW BUSINESS, 10:05 VII1 . PLANNER'S REPORT Council act ons. _ 2. -Up-coming projects 1 :15 IX. ADJOU o Y! .. •aW i W Ap MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING CqMMISSION approved Monday, April 10, 1978 7:30 PM, City Hall COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom,Retterath, Redpath, Lynch, Beaman, 1 ..r..Saa �t � 40G COMMISSION ABSENT: McCulloch STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger Planning Director, Jean Johnson Planning Assistant I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Retterath moved, Redpath seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. II. MINUTES OF THE APRIL 27, 1978 MEETING P. , . ,SP, shou d read - . . . increase the cost of the lots $1 ,000-2,000. P. 4,8. ,6P, spelling of dominant 15P, should read- . . Mr. Levitt believed the 13 building . 10P, should read . . . the proponent may not have to . . . . P.S,A. , Add motion- McCulloch moved, Redpath seconded, to continue the Tamarac Moods public: hearing to April 10th for a staff report. B. ,2 P,should read - . . is an incorporated insurance . . . Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted and ce -rected. Motion carried unanimously. III. MEMBERS REPORTS Chairman Sundstrom 1. Sundstrom inTormed the Commission he attended the last Council meeting and submitted the Commission 's motion on Hillsborough. He added the Hillsborough plat was referred back to the Planning Commission to review the revised plat. 2. Sundstrom asked the staff to inzi uJe a 'list of present commission/ council members. in the commission's next packet. B. Others none IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. Prairie East 4th 5th & 6th Additions , by Hustad Development for rezoning ftomRural to RI-13.5 and RM 6.5 for approximately 70 acres, and preliminary plat approval of approximately 200 units. The additions are located in the NW and NE quadrants of Co.Rd. 18 and Franco Road. A continued public hearing. The Chairman asked the Planner if the proponents and the City staff had reached agreements as requested at the last commission meeting. The Planner sunmari zed_changeste the,plotq__.gs .follows:__ 4th_A¢4ition, corner _ lots fronting on Buckinghaa: changed_ to meet front yard setback of 35 feet, and setbacks from Franco -hevfted to •50 feet except for 3 sideyards; 5th Addition, access to Co.Rd. 1 eiiminated, i quad eliminated and additional size added to pArju__ -6th Addition,_Buckingham_Drive access to Co.Rd. 1 eliminated a n _fri n�ont _ on_Franl o_ Road-spine .�fee� setbacks-some. meet__ 50 foot setback. Planning Commission Minutes -2- Aprilv 1 p 0, 1978 The Planner infomned the Commission the Parks , Recreation and Natural Resources Commission recommended aooroval of the two mini- nArks as pr niece i ky ♦ka proponent, but the Planning and Park & Recreation Department staffs still recommend one larger usable park for public ownership and ;maintenance, otherwise -@ the smaller two play areas should be owned and maintained by a homeowner association. He then referred the Commission to the letters received from Hennepin County Highway Department dated March 21st regarding the 5th b 6th Additions. Mr. Putnam, Hustads, concurred with the planner0s summary of resolution;, made. He stated they_ talked with; residents and believe they have met the concerns of the residents. Beaman inquired if the Engineering Department has reviewed the two mini-parks and if they consider the area to be parkland or stoat, water ponds. The Planner responded of the 4. 3 acre park proposed in the 4th Addition, approximately 1/3 of it is pond with : rew3ind_ er in some backyards. He stated Hustad's engineer believes the pond can be confined to ache southeast part of the area , but it will be deep, about 4-6 feet. Beaman expressed concern over the City's liability of ownership and maintenance of the totlots containing deep water ponds that may vary from 2-5 feet after heavy rains. RVdpath inquired how many acres are within the park proposed near the 5th Addition.- Mr. Putnam estimated the size of the area to be 5. 3 acres and stated - they believe it is large enough for softball and Hustads will sod the area. Don McGlyn; Olympic Hills Corporation, stated the Golf Club held a meeting today and voted to go on record in opposition to the lot size and setback variances being requested. He stated the Olympic HIlls 3rd b 4th Additions had to meet ordinance requirements at the request of the City. Mr. Putnam, Hustads, informed the Commission, the Bluffs 1 ,000 acre area will include possibly 500 acres of public/private open space. Redpath inquired if the proponent bases variance requests on possible ` ,not committed open space. Putnam replied they will commit to open space whether it is purchased through agencies or through City cash park fee funds, and if some areas are unpurchasable, then they may be developed. Levitt stated that the possible 500 acres open space is not before the Planning Commission, there is not an overall PUD for the 1 ,000 acres , therefore what tradeoffs are proposed for the '_variances req}uested.- _ r Planning Commission Minutes -3- April 10, 1978 Mr. Putnam replied the project will provide a variety of housing types, 2 park areas, and be subject to cash park fee. Redpath stated he appreciates having all the additions submitted at once, but the densities are in excess of tradeoffs of. 'maybe' 500 acres open space on an unapproved 1 ,000 acre PUB. He believed it would be unsafe to grant densities WO oil i uture open space. Notion 1: edpath moved, Bearman seconded, to close the public hearing oa Prairie East 4th.5th b 6th Additions. Motion carried unanimously. Motion 2: e pat moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the PUB approval on Prairie East 4th-6th for single family and multiple without specific densities. Motion carried unanimously. Redpath moved to recommend approval of the rezoning from Rural to to R1-13.5 and RM 6.5 for the Prairie East 4th,5th 5 6th Additions based upon the March 23, 1978 staff report. Mr. Putnam requested the commission to continue the hearings on the 4th b 6th Additions to allow him to advise the developers on the commission's concerns and determine if the projects are feasible under those condition. . Motion, 3: edpat moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend to the City Council rezoning from Rural to RM 6.5 for the 5th Addition based on the March 23, 1978 staff report with the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission recommendation on 2 park locations. Motion carried 4:2 (Sundstrom b Levitt voted nay) Motion 4: Redpath moved, Lynch seconded, to recommend approval of the 5th Addition preliminary plat 4-4-78 based upon the staff report of March 23, 1978 with the Parks. Recreation and Natural Resources Commission recommendation on the 2 park locations. Motion carried 4:2 ( Sundstrom b Levitt voted nay) Notion 5: rynch moved, Beearman seconded, to reopen the public hearing on Prairie East 4th i 6th Additions. Motion carried mpanimously. Motion 6: ncmoved, Bearman seconded, to refer the 4th 8 6th Additions back to the developer to redesign 4nd continue ;he public hearing to April 24, 1978. Motion carried unanimously. ' B. Prairie East 7th 8th b 9th Additions, request by Hustad Development for rezoni-ng of approximately 50 acres from Rural to RAM 6.5 , and preliminary plat approval of approximately 200 units. Tite additions are located east and west of Linden Dirve, West of Co.Rd. 18, a continued public hearing. The Planner stated these additions have not been revised since the last meeting, but agreements understoo4_are: thg lonp- streetuwilI _be_ wivate.,_ sietk3ck r Qc -fr.o Lthe_s.treets .a re._s ugges ted if_no.-Lai#&--front- --the road(setbacks- %puld in no c se b dleR �bjn,30 feet from oetfrrom back-of _and..50 foot setback rom requested Co Redpath asked if the towr!house association would have any park maintenance. Mr. Woodland Windsor,. stated they do not wish to bear the liability of the park s:�� '�iIGF:u� =i�:`�.�-`r-���'' �'��. i���a i�.�►..�"..c .-�..s=---�5::�.''��`S�l���`"t'�'� approved s Planning Commission Minutes -4- April 10, 1978 Mr. Moore, 10081 Laurel Drive, supported the park plan proposed by the developers . R Levitt asked if the proponent will meet the requirements of turn lanes , etc. , of Hennepin County Highway Department. Mr. Putnam stated they will do what 4 e rorn i rei Redpath expressed concern that the sight distance of the entrance road and Co. Rd. 18 is bad. Sundstrom expressed concern that the open space/pond/recreation area proposed . is inadequate for the densities proposed. Bearman expressed concern that the park area proposed is inadequate and carries liability and maintenance problems. : Redpath asked if the trail behind the 7th Addition, going to The Preserve, would be maintained by the townhouse association. the Planner replied if it is `. accepted as ublic open space, it "would be City responsibility, but he is unsure how . the City wound maintain it. - Redpath expressed concern on the additions and their correspondinq _ densities without adequate park or open space commitments. Levitt did not believe the proponent is proposing sufficient tradeoffs for the densities requested. Lynch expressed concern about the variances requested. Motion 1 : Redpath moved, Bearman seconded, to close the public hearing on the 7th,8th and 9th Additions. Motion carried unanimously. Motion 2: edpath moved, Beammn seconded, to recommend to the City Counci'. reaffirmation of the multiple concept use forthe 7th,8th i 9th Additions. Motion carried 5: 1 with Levitt voting nay - Motion 3: - Redpath moved, Bearmar, seconded, to reconaend to the City Council approval of = the rezoning from Rural to RM 6.5 based on the March 20, 1978 staff report, r the March 27,1978 letter from Hennepin County, and the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission recommendation on park/open space. Motion failed 1:5 with Redpath voting aye. -` Motion 4: Levitt moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend to the City Council denial of Prairie East 7th,8th b 9th Additions based upon the following: 1. inadequate open space for immediate additions, totally inadequate for entire additions, t 2. densities requested without adequate tradeoffs, 3. park areas proposed contain toe arch storm water pond 1n relation to usable 4. liability problems and maintenance problems associated area, with public- ownership of park/pond areas, S. variances requested without sufficient rued exhibited. !Notion carried 5:1 with Redpath voting nay. r 4 - approved Planning Commi s si on Minutes -5- April 10, 1978 C. Ban-Con re nest for building design approval for owner occupied tow*dwses on the Ridgewood South' site zoned RN 2.5. Continuidtem. j The Planner informed the Commission the turninq radius _needed for fire vehicle access is _ 40 feet, and the project has a radius of curvature of 50 feet and greater. Mr. Hans Hagen, Ban-Cons stated he has met with the concerned residents regarding sight views of the project and believes the berming and landscaping now proposed meets the concerns and approval of the res;rents. He added that covenantswould restrict recreational vehicle storage and control junk car parking. Levitt asked who would enforce the covenants. Mr. Hagan stated. through past experience with association covenants, he believes the association would be able to enforce the covenants. Mr. Carlson, 9061 Neill Lake Road stated he met with the proponents and his concerns have been resolved satisfactorily. - Nation n moved, Retferath seconded, to appr,)ve -the Ban-Con Downer occupied building design dated 3-16-78 and the sight line plans dated 4-4-78 for the 'Ridgewood South' site zoned RM 2. 5 contingent upon the staff approving the berming and landscaping . Motion carried unanimously. D. Bachman-Anderson Center, request by Bachman Anderson, Inc. , for rezoning from Rural to Office for approximately 12 acres located north of Anderson Lakes and South of I-a94 . Continued item. The Planner informed the Commission the proponent has refined the plan to decrease the grading, and the staff has discussed traffic concerns with Bloomington City staff. He stated the project is anticipated to generate 1400 ADT. _ W. Baird, Douglas A. Baird Architects, stated the grade of the entrance has been decreased frtom 13% down to 7%. the parking lot would be curved with 2nd phase parking accomplished through decking, and they do concur with the staff report. The Planner stated the building is approximately ;Z50-400 feet from the Blacklock Line , the site plan protects and respects the Lakeshore, the majority of drainage will go to Beet 78th Street, and the proponents have agreed to construct a privacy barrier between the site and iakeshore. 5. r*r• asked x!!s: t!t 'aka leve3 is trite. The Manner replied it is saor!>rl�at below the 838 contour. Aodpo th i nqu i red If Vest 780 Street could be changed to a one-wax west bound tr= tlet Ensign Road arse west. Lewitt imWired what adverse effects the development would have on the lame. The Foamw rt*pOe !i the staff bel ieves the plan respects the lakes, and the Metershod district will be sAmimitting their recanwWations soon. He suggested Awy cowoiasioR recoNamdatiom an app►rowl shovU be contingent upon the -wt*r%W district mview an# apprwl . i ed Manning Commission Minutes -6- Apr ,0, 1978 P Beaman asked if the project meets requi re nents of the Shorel and Management Act. The Planner replied it and exceeds the requirements. Mr. Osberg, 9550 Timer Trail , inquired about the visibility of the building from the lake side. The Planner replied it would have less impact than the present Celco Building , Geneva Middleton, 9411 Timber Trail * stated she has in the past carefully monitored lake development, expressed_ concern__thait_maEmixanmentaL-reports _ _ were done,and that mc+re time should be a1 owedr-gpmt,�h� �eved, although single_ it may have less impact than Ge1c�, ;t_wi11_ eff�ct_ snore - family: The Planner stated according to State Regulations no EAW is required and the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources would be considering the item soon before it goes to the Council thereby allowing considerable time for input. Mr. Hubred, 8056 Ensign Road, inquired how soon the second phase of building would begin. W. Baird replied he is unsure. Mr. Bud Belk,8116 Ensign Road, suggested duplexes or quads would be a more transitional use than the office proposed, Mrs. Mikelson, 8049 Ensign Road, inquired if the office could be constructed on the north side of the site and not into the side of the hill . Mr. Baird responded such siting of the building would require considerably mars grading. Mrs. Olson, 8016 Ensign Road, stated she would prefer the site be developed in residential uses instead of office. Sundstrom and Levitt both ^xpressed concern that uses of residential would have more impact upon. the lake than the proposed office. Geneva Middleton felt more information should be received by the City prior to action. Don Peterson, 7025 Mariann Drive, believed multiple or%. this parti_ular site would be infeasible. He believed the proposal is sensitive to the site and the only way to preserve the hill would be if it is purchased by the City. Lynch inquired if the City could ask for an EAW even though it is not required. The Planner stated , since the project does not need an EAW according 'State Regulations and the City has not adopted separate criteria , that the City cannot - require an EAW. He added the watershed district would be carefully reviewing sto!�!!! water plans, dreinags Flans, sad$ ztatior� polls prop sed, and erosion control methods Mr. Sutherland, .---houn-Anderson, stated they have worked 3 months with the City staff, intenu to keep the site as natural as possible, meet watershed district requirements, and request the commission take favorable action on the request so all information complied on the request can be forwarded to the City Council for action. ' �'9'.:^_'r+'�Tt1. .;�;J.;,^'[" -- a-. , .....y,�ywei�T i7`-'':!!.n^'"7Ds'ns....s - ',MC4 _n ^•�.v'...r+r �'`y .""'" - ::•�"+��r $" h..'t•. ��r4.y a:,!r"'.1►F i.7.- ..ij.- , '{tu'!F^,Sti4,' ,;'�"'"?" sip�`j- . spproved Planning Commission Minutes -;- . April 10, 1978 Motion: Lynch moved, Levitt seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Bachman-Anderson rezoning of 12 acres from Rural to Office subject to the staff report of 4-•6-78 and the site plan presented tonight 4-10-78. Motion carried 5:1 with Bearman voting nay. Motion Lynch moved, Levitt seconded, to strongly recommend to the Council that traffic concerns are such that if Wept 78th Street cannot be made a one-way street • west in order to mitigate major traffic concerns of the project, then approval of this - project should be reconsidered. Motion carried unanimously. E. Tamarac Woods Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 and pre m nary plat approval of 8.5 acres for 13 single family lots. Lccated west of Edenvale Boulevard and Southwest of Hipp's Cedar Point Townhouses. A continued public hearing. The Planner informed the Commission the proponent has changed his rezoning request to Rl-13.5 from Rural instead of RM 6.5 He added the platting request remains the same. Mr. Peterson outlined the location and lotting plan and then requested the Commission consider r,�&carmending variances for sideyard 6 front yard setbacks as such variances allow the necessary flexibiiity_ in locating houses o_n the lots, d� save sigr_ificant trees, vegetation and .soils. Sundstrom asked if the developer ' has control to prohibit . all lots from using setbacks as some may be unnecessary. Peterson replied most housing designs require use of setback variances and if no variances are granted, then they usually reject 2 out of 3 plans submitted for approval . Bearman i nqu i red if the one lot under 13,500 square feet in size could be enlarged to meet ordinance requirements. Mr. Peterson replied affirmative. Lynch inquired if the trail and / or buffer between this project and the single family to the south is anticipated. Mr. Peterson replied the residents requested that the trail be removed. Motion 1: rman moved, Redpath seconded, to close the public hearing bn Tamarac Woods. Motion carr;ed unanimousiy. Motion 2: . earman moved, Redpath seconded, to r6cave, nd approval of rezoning from Rural to RI-13.5 for Tamarac Woods based upon the4Uff report dated April 5th, granting { siceyard variances only due to the uniqueness of the site- &nd to preserve the wooded rolling character of the site. Motion carried unanimously. Motion 3: ' earmn moved, Redpath seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat, revised to depict no lots tinder 13. SOD square feet 1n size, contingentand . upon �n the recomendations of the staff report Motion Garied unanimausiy. dated April 5, 1978. approved Planning Commission Minutes -8- April 10, 1978 Y. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS none VT. CLD BUSINESS none YII. NEW BUSINESS none YIII. PLANNER'S REPORT 1. �SSu,p�2er Ya l u The fanner i0ri-sied the Commission the Super lulu building location was determined to be 40 feet from the ordinary high water mark of Bryant taIm. He stated the DMR has recommended approval of the site plan, and the City Council gave preliminary approval of the project on April 4th. Notion eevitt moved, Redpath seconded, to have the Planner Communicate to the City Council that at the tine the Planning Commission reviewed and rec nded approval of the Super Yalu site plan, the project was assured to be not less than 75 feet from the high water mark, and the Planning Commission approval was based in part on that assurance. Notion carried 5:0:1 with Rettorath abstaining. 2. St. Johns HOA Request to Widen Private Drive. The Planner stated St. Johns ROA wou ke- approval of widening a 22 ' wide private drive an additional 6 feet, to be paid by Gold Medallion Corp. , in order to alleviate bad turning and parking conditions. Notion: el path awed, Lynch seconded, to recomeend approval of the private drive widening an additional - 6 feet as presented by the Plamw . Lotion carried unanimously. IX. ADJUl LAMENT Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to adjourn at 11:28 PM. Notion carried. Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson, Plannirq Assistaot 3 7 -�i'k--i''�m/�R.'llIIJ4r1R'c.6�_:�.-•1 +6�ci.s�w.�r r.i[e . r ns,e.�en.. ,et—.e.a . - .. --- - .�...�.�.r..�. � - -