Planning Commission - 03/13/1978 A G E N D A
Eden Prairie Planning Commiss.Loa
Monday, March 13, 1978
7: 30 PM, City Hall
Invocation - Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
COW. ISSION. MEMBERS: Chairman Rod. Sundstrom, Liz Retterath, Wl'lliam Bearman,
Richard Lynch, Jahn McCul I och,Mat thew Levitt,,Paul Redpath
Estimated STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson, Jim Jensen
Times
7:30PM I. SWEARING IN OF COMMISSION MEMBER LEVITT
7:35 II . ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
A. Chairman
B. Vice-chairman
C. Secretary
7:4S III . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
7 :50 IV. MINUTES OF THE FERRUAW 27, 1978 14EETING
7:55 V. MEMBERS REPORTS:
A. Chairman
B. Others
VI . REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS :
8:00 A. Super Valu Stores, Inc. , request for PUD Amendment to Major Center
Area PUD for a 140 acre site, and rezoning of 37 acres from Rural
_to Office for corporate headquarters to be located on south end of
Bryant Lake.
8:20 X B. Hillsborough Hillsborough Second, The preserve, request for
PUD approval, rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 , and preliminary
plat approval of 20 acres into 34 lots and 60 acres into 115 lots
respectively. Lot size and setback: variances requested on both
Additions. A continued public hearing.
8:40 C. Pheasant Oaks, Burmith Inc. , request for preliminary plat approval
and rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 for 96 single family detached
homes on SS acres. Located east of Red Rock Lake and South of
--Village Atcods. A Public Hearing.- -- -
V. !! TITICNS AND REQUESTS:
9:10 A. Prairie East 4* ,Sth$ Eth Additions, request by Hustad Development
for rezoning of approximately 70 acres from Rural to RI-13.5 and
RN 6.5 and preliminary plat approval for approximately 200 units of
single family maid quadraniniums. The additions are located in the
NE and NW corners of Co. Rd. 1 and Franlo Road intersection. A
continued public hearing.
9 : 20 t. Prairie East 7th 8th & 9th Addi_ Lions, request by Hustad Development
or rezoning o approximately O aens from Rural to M4 6.S ard. pre-
liminary plat approval of approximately 200 units . The additions
are located East and pest of Lirden Drive , pest of Co. Rd. 18.
'A continued public hearing.
Agenda
Planning Com:3ission page 2
Monday, March 13, 1978
V. PETITIONS AND REQUTSTS, contir.wed
9:30 C. Raven Ridge, Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning and platting of
approximately 14 acres for 22 single family and 24 townhouses.
The site is :located on Outlot V. Edenvale 3rd Addition, East of
Hipp's Cedar Point Townhouses . A continued public hearing.
9 :45 D. Tamarac moods, Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning from Rural to
RM 6.5 and preliminary plat approval of - 3.S acres for 13 double
lots. L-Vcated Nest of Edenvale Boulevard and Southwest of Cedar
Point Townhouses. A public hearing.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion of Planning Comission Meeting dates .
B. Discussion of 'invocation.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. ?LANN'ER'S REPORT
A. Discussion of Cash Paris Fee.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING C"USSION
• ;approved
MONDAY, MARCH 13, 1978 7 :30 ISM City Hall
COI►'BNISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Richard Lynch,William Bearman, Matthew
Levitt , Paul Redpath (arrived later)
COPi�icjSi0,\ ABS:iA"t': Liz Retterath
STAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Chris Enger, Planning Assistant Jean
Johnson, Director of Community Services Bob Lambert
I. SWEAPING IN OF COMMISSION MEMBER LEVITT
Planning Director Chris Enger administered the oath of office to Commission
Member Lev tt.
IT. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Levitt moved,Bearman seconded, to place Election of Officers under New
Business to awzit the arrival of Mr. Redpath. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. MINUTES OF THE FERRUARY 27, 1978 AEETING
P. 1 COi•11SISSIJN ABSENT: add Bearman
Lynch moved, Rearman seconded, to approve the minutes as written and
co:-:ectzd. Motion c1r:i ed 3:0 :1 with Bearman abstaining.
V. M.EMBER.S REPORTS
A. Chairman - none
B. Others - none
VI. REPORTS AND VECO! HENDATIONS
A. Super Valu Stores, Inc. ,request for PVP Amendment tb Major Center Area
PUD for a 140 acre site, and rezoning of 37 acres from Rural to Office
for corporate headquarters to be located on south end of Bryant Lake.
The Planner informed the Commission Super Valu applied for PUD Amendment to
MCA PUD to include office, housing, open space, and office/commercial uses
on the 140 acre site. He referred the Cormission to the Draft Environmental
Assessment Worksheet and the staff report dated Marc; 7, 1978. He stated the
Department of Natural Resources will be determining the actual high water
mark and once it is established Super Valu intends to respect the setbacks
-required.
The Planner reviewed p::ssed PUD approvals or, the site as 1968 Guide Plan
depicting commercial and housing; a 1968 Amendment to the Guide Plan outlining
single family detached; and the MCA PUD of 1973 which outlines uses of housing
and commercial . lie believed Cie office use of the site is preferred tD
medium density housing as there will be less use of the lard , traffic &public
services. The Planner stated the zoning request will require variance from
Ord. 135 whereby office structures are limited to 30 feet , although since the
' project is within the MCA, structures may be higher than strict ordinance
requirements. .
The PlannerrecommendW. Lhe PUD and 70ning request be approved contingent upon
the conditions within the staff report ;and that no docking facilities be
constricted on -he lake , and future building avid/or park:ng plans be subject
tn rommission r yiew npa counc t l approval .
approved
Planning Commission Minutes 4- March 13, 1978
Mr. Robert Dill , Ellerbe & Associates, briefly outlined the PUD uses on
the 140 acre site and the layout of the 37 acre office site.
... . ✓�.u.w.4.. 1i1�:u11C4 i1 duper vaiu anticipates selling any of the 140 acres.
Mr. Dill replied that it is undetermined at this time.
Levitt asked if the building design proposed on the plans and models is
the only one Super Valu is coasiderinA. Mr. Lill replied during initial
meetings with residents alternate building designs were shown, but the
building in the brochure and on the model is the type that will be built .
Lynch asked if the housing depicted in the MCA PUD would he apartments.
The Planner reolied it would be possible.
Levitt questioned where additional narking would be accommodated if the use
is expanded. Mr. Dill replied they believe 1 space/l . 2 employees is adequate
based on current studies, and future parking could be provided nearby and
by decking.
Sundstrom inquired if the small pond on-site would be covered by the same
restrictions as Bryant Lake. The Planner replied affirmative.
Levitt inquired what the City's cost would be for the 1-494 ramn.
The Planner estimated 90% of the anticipated $100,000 cost .
Bearman asked if the City has to assume any of the costs of the indust-i:.l
revenue bond. Mr. Morrissey, Vice-President Super Valu, Hopkins , replied
Super Valu would be responsible for the cost of underwriting, Legal costs, etc .
Sundstror. asked if the EAW is w«tten on the entire 140 acres or the 37 acre
office site proposed. The Planner replied the EA11 is basically written on the
37 acre office site and if future uses are proposed additional EAks may be
necessary.
Redpath arrived
'ihe Planner informed the Commission the Parks , Recreation and Natural Resouces
Commission discussed possibility of a trail around Bryant Lake, but the
motion to recommend a trail failed.
Don Sorensen, 7121 Willow Creek Road, asked where future building expansion is
anticipated. Mr. Dill believed additional expansion of the building would occur
to the southwest of the building location ;proposed,
Mr., Sorensen stated he is impressed with the Super Valu propoeal but does have
concern over the siting of th.- building. He believed the area could be better
protected and preserved with unique architectural design and siting.
Sundstrom asked if any activites are planned in the open space areas of the 140
acres. 'the Planner . believed the open space designated areas would be preserved
in their natural state.
Mr. Bearman inquired what alternate -sites on the acreage were investigated.
Mr. Dill outlined the alternates sites, but stated the site selected has the
best soils and will have minimal impact upon the lake.
Sorensen suggested placement of the building at and into the base of 'Old Baldy'
be investigated.
ipproved
Planning Commission Minutes -3- March 13, 1978
41 Sundstrom inquired if the total office site proposed must be rezoned in order
to meet setbacks , J .e. , the northern tip near the lake . Mr. Morrissey replied
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Mr. Redpath complimented S::pex Valu for the admirable plans on a site which has
had less than desiraLle proposals. He added he does find reason to agree with
alternate sit:::,-, possibilities as stated by Mr. Sorensen, but believes the
plan proposed is acceptable .
Motion 1
lyr :h moved, Bearman seconded, to recommen4 to the City Council approval of the
EAW finding of no significant impact. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 2
Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Super Valu' s PUD dated Feb. 13, 1976. Motion carried enanimously.
`Aot i on 3:
Lynch moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
Super Valu rezoning of 37 acres from Rural to Office according to the 140 acre
PUD contingent upon the staff report dated March 7, 1978, subject to the approvals
from the Denartment of Natural nesources , Nine Mile Watershed District and
Hennepin Co6ty, that a variance from Ord. 135 height restriction be recommended ;
and that no docking facilities be allowed on the site. Motion carried unanimously.
B. HillsboroLigh_$ Hillsborough Second, Ilia Preserves request for PUD approval .-
rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 , and preliminary plat approval of 20 acres
into 34 lots and 60 acres into 115 lots respectively. Lot size and setback
variances requested on both additions. A continued public hearing.
The Planner Stated the City staff is recommending approval or" the revised site
plan based on the conditions in the staff report dated March 2, 1978, and
the Engineering Supplement dated March 7 , 1978. ;"lie Planner then referred the
Commission to the Preserve letter of 3- 14-78 regarding response to the staff
report.
Redpath asked Mr.Hess why The Preserve is objecting to the sidewalk. Mr. Ness
stated he agrees the sidewalk should be built , but does not believe: it should
be a contingency on the project
McCulloch asked who the property owner to the soutli is. The Planner believed
Hustad Development Cnvpany is the owner.
Bearman remarked that the redesign of the plats has created smaller lots.
. Mr. Hess replied the Second Addition had to be redesigned slightly to create
access to the property to the west as recommended by the city staff.
McCulloch inquired what basis The Preserve has for requesting "sCandard variances".
Hess replied projects iL thn past have rn-teived similar variances, therefore the
�� same variances are requested and referred to as Standard PUD variances .
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -4- March 13, 1978
Sundstrum inquired what the city is receiving in trade-off for the
variance requests. The planner stated the Hillsbc:.augh plat is basically in
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utility easements , and Airport Zone restrictions has constraints whic:, were
difficult for the developer to deal with . Mr. Hess stated t'he development
respects difficult soils and steep slopes , and the overall density is less
than 2units/acre.
Motion 1 :
Bearman moved, Fedpath seconded, to close the public hearing on Hillsborough
5 ^r' ad"I Lions. notion carried unanimously.
Motion 2 :
Bearman moved, Red;.ath seconded, to recommend approval of the Killsborough
PUD for 149 single family lots on approximately 80 acres based on the
PUD submission dated March 13, 1978 , and the staff reports of March 2, 1978
and March 7, 1978. Motion did not pass, vote 3 ayes (Redpat Sandstrom, Levitt) ,
3 C Lynch,nays L McCulloch bearman) .
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No further motions made.
C. Pheasant Oaks, Burmith, Inc. , request for preliminary plat approval and
rezoning frco. Rural to R1-13. 5 for 96 single family detached homes on 55
acres. Located east. of Red Rock Lake and South of Village Woods. A public
hearing.
It a Planner referred the Commission to the staff report, engineering suP^lenient ,
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and EAW prepared on the Pheasant Oaks project . He stated the proponent is not
requesting any variances the RI- 13 : 5 District , and the staff is recommending
credit be given for the proponent 's construction of the trail.
Mr. Rubert Smith, Burmith Inc. , outlined the project location with description of
the vegetation , slopes, and �itiiity availability. He stated they are proposing
to dedicate 11 acres to the city .,rhich amounts to approximately 20% of the total
developable site area.
Mr. McCulloch inquired if the proponent. agrees with the staff report. Mr. South
responded affirmative , except for full cash park fee payment.
Bearman asked if the project would have architectural controls, and who it would
be. Mr. Smith stated they would he establishing controls on house size, construc-
tion, etc.
Levitt asked what the price range of the homes would be. Mr. Smith estimated
$75900-1009000 .
Levitt then asked if storm sewer facilities were present . Mr. Smith replied the
project would be drained to a sedimentation pond and then into Red Rock Lake.
McCulloch asked if the specials would be paid by the developer. Mr. Smith replied
the specials had been deferred because for the last 3•-4 years Zhe property has
been in Green Acres , but the specials will be paid as the project proceeds.
Redpath inquired if Hiawatha Avenue would intersect with Village Woods Drive .
Mr. Smith replied affirmative.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes ..5- - March 13, 1978
Levitt asked if Mitchell Road would be able to handle the additional trips
to the north. The Planner replied positive.
Mr. John Houston, Red Rock Hills„ stated he believes the project is compatible
with the surrounding development. tle then suggested the street Village floods
Road be renamed Village Moods Drive for consistency. The Planner replied the
Engineering Staff is recommending the name change forthe final plat.
Motion 1 :
McCulloch moved, Redpath seconded, to close the public hearing on Pheasant Oaks.
Motion carried unanimously.
Notion 2:
McCulloch moved,. Redpath seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of
1
the EA11 finding of no significant impact. !lotion carried unanimously.
_ Not i on 3:
McCulloch moved, Redpath seconded, to recomwnd to the City Council app*oval of
the rezoning of the 55 acres from Rural to R1-13. 5 contingent upon the staff
report of March 3, 1979 & the Engineering supplements March 7, 1978. Motion
carried unanimously.
Motion A.-
McCulloch moved, Redpath seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the preliminary plat dates' Feb. 20, 1978 contingent on the staff report dated
March 3, 1979 and the Engineering supplement dated March 7, 1978. Motion
carried unanimously.
V. PETITIONS S_ANO REQUESTS
A. Prairie East dth , Sth $ 6th Additions , request by Ihistad Development for
rezoning of approximately 70 acres from Rural to RI -13.5 and RM 6.5 and
preliminary plat spprDva. for approximately 200 units of single family and
q;uadraminiuws. The additions are located in the NE and NM corners of Co.Rd. 1
and Franlo R,,"d. A continued public hearing.
6. Prairie East 7th ,8th S 9th Additions, request by Hustad Development for
rezoning of approximately SO acres from Rural to RM (+ . 5 and preliminary plat
approval of arlv-oximately 200 units. The additions are located east and west
of Linden Drive, Kest of Co. Rd. 16. A continued public hearing.
The Planner stated the City staff has concerns to resolve prier to wTitting staff
reports on the additions. He asked the Commission their feelings or locating
the neighborhood park site in the YF or SE corner of Franlo Road and Co. Rd. 1 .
He informed the Corm i s s i on the Parks, Recc re a t i ern and Natural Res ouc res Cow mi s s,i on
has reccmmendedi the %E park site whfch is the site of the proposed nth Addition of
Prairle rasf , He then rctsrred she to the memo dated March 3-17-78
from the Community Services Director rcR.ryrdi RR park sites and costs.
Nrdpath frlt since fewer and water exists for Who north si ce, that it should be
ik-weIff Ibred as lots in hr ip pay +vr riuh tit i l it ics , therefore the SE site where
ati lit ies do nut exist wmId bee rare Eogic-al foo a park r0c.
Maru:.n i"ialrrd ! -vc-, iww*dia! park r,,4.rs of 3 !-mwth r-vrk locati .in wowild have to
C.-ost Cry. ful. 1 , k.tiuid nn atc: *ace for lr;dre-t rians Ise The Planncr
h►-1 ievc-d ate wimld N- fc-n 011 iv Nit aas unsuru if it would. he possIbIc to
flftJ such tri vier of park ccn e-t rt:v! i-on.
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approved
Planning Commission Minutes -6- March 13, 1978
McCulloch inquired why the Parks . Recreation and Natural Resources Commission
reco>rrmended the NE site. The Planner responded because it is a more appealing
site, locationyand cost of grading. Mr. Bob Lambert stated the NE site is expected
to be easier to develop, closer to users and more centrally located.
Motion
Redpath r.!oved , McCulloch seconded, to recommend the southeast pork site for
the neighborhood park with redesigningof Franlo Rand and instruct the staff
20 negotiate with Hustads on costs, development, etc. Mction carried unanimously_
Mr. Putnam, liustads , stated due to the late hour and no staff report , he would
postpone his slide presentation of the projects until the following meeting.
!►cot i on
Lynch proved, Be2rman seconded, to continue the Prairie East 4th,5th,6th, 7th,8th
and 9th Additions public hearings to the March 27, 1978 meeting for staff reports .
Motion carried unanimously.
C. Raven Ridge, Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning and platting of approximately
14 acres for 22 single family and 24 townhouses . The site is located on
Outlot V, Edenvale 3rd Addition, east of Hipp's Cedar Point ToAmhouses.
A continued public hearing.
Mr. Peterson stated he has had further meetings with the surrounding residents
and discussed adding open space to the project , and will he finaliz?ng such
plans and stsb.il,.ting for staff review.
Mot i on
Redpath moved. Lyr_ch seconded, to continue the public hearing to March 27, 1978
for a staff report . Motion carried unanimously.
D. Tamarac Woods , Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning frcmt Rural to RM 6.5
and preliminary plat approval of 8. 5 acres for 13 double lots . Located west
of Edenvale Boulevard and Southwest of Cedar Point Townhouses .
Mr. Peterson presented the project locating lotting plan , vegetation and trails
serving the project . He stated the roads are rroposed ; o correspond with existing
utilities. The orlginal approval was for townhouses at about 6 units/acre , but
he feels the market is beter for large lot double homes . Peterson added no
variances are being requested-from RM 6. 5 District .
Redpath inquir%;d if the site is populdted with elm trees. Mr. Peterson estimated
only 5-10f
Mccul ;&$J1I how ;iany ta'J S, ue vo ar"p ovej In 0616. r-nn Cpt va 'Ac er
this site. The Planner._ replies) 49 units
Mfilliam bans , 15370 Creekside Corsrt , suggest%:d the cifl-de-sacs be r.idesignecl to.-
the north And buffer hr created b{.twzen the Creekside single family and this _
proposal.
am-s Cullen 15381 Creckside Cnur! also dc! rod the cul-de-%uc bein rcdcsi rn-,4
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to the north , .end felt t.i�4 s;orjhlr hro;�crt wru1J he incon iste4t with their
family Character.
Pvtcrson Jid not feel redesigning of th+:� strocts would be posslible because of the
p:; + st inn iii i 1ii icr, and hi t,.vrk loc:itlrn to the n^rth .
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Planning Commission Minutes -7- March 13, 1978
Mrs. Richards, 15350 Creekside Court , expressed concern over de:;tructioa
of vegetation on other lots and hoped it would be prevented in development
of this site.
McCulloch informed the residents endless meetings have been conducted in
formulating the Edenvale PUD Concept , and thac individuals contemplating pur-
chasing are responsible for investigating surrounding proposed and/or current
plans and approval.r .
Mr. Cullin responded he did inquire about the use of the Qite when he purchased
his home and was informed it would be townhouses , but since Creekside twas originally
to!�mhouses and is now single family, he believes the possibility exists on this
site. Mrs. Richards stated her builder stated the lot would be open space.
Redpath asked Mr. Peterson if the two southern most lots proposed could be
single family. Mr. Peterson was unsure but would investigate.
Motion:
Redpath coved, Dearman seconded, to continue the public hearing to the
March 27th meeting for a staff report. notion carried unanimously.
VI . OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion of Planning Commission Meeting Dates
McCulloch mved, Beaman seconded, to continue with the meeting dates of
2nd $ 4th Mondays of the month, at 7 :30 PM. Motion carried unanimously.
B. Discussion of Tnvocation
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to continue with invocation at the
Planning Cnmetission meetings. Motion carried 4 : 1 : 1 with Bearman voting
nay and Levitt abstaining.
VI I. NEW BUS I14ESS
A. Election of Officers
1 . Chairman
Redpath moved, Lynch seconded, to cast a unanimous ballot to elect Sundstrom
Chairman of the Planning Commission. Motion carried unanimously.
2. ViCe-chairman
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to nominate Mr. Lynch as Chairman.
McCulloch moved, Bearman seconded, to close nominations. Motion car& ed.
A unanimous ballot was cast to elect Lynch as Vide-Chairman of Planning
Comission. -
3. Secretary
M,-rU ti"ved; Lynch seconded. to nominate Mr. Rearman as Secretary.
Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to close nominations . Motion carried.
A unanimous ballot was cast to elect Mr. Berman as Secretary of the
Planning CowAmission.
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approved
Planning Commission Minutes -S- Warch 13, 1978
I. PLANNER'S REPOtrr
A. Preserv-j Park Cownnitments
The Planner described and outlined on a large scale map the areas of park/
open space The Preserve committed to in the original 1970 Pitt? and awendmeIts
todate. He stated the City is in the process of evaluating Preserve's
Park commmitments in relation to present cash park fee requirements.
Mr. Bale , The Preserve, stated the Planner has accurately outlined
agreeab 1 e park commi talents .
Lynch inquired if the point of land next to N. 78th Street is a usable
piece. T;�e Planner replied the area is anticipated to remain as open
space with no active uses.
Notion
dearman moved, Redpath seconded, that the open space commitments as outlined
In the map dated March 13, 1978 (consistent with original PUD) are
acceptable in lieu of cash in lieuof land payment. Motion carried 4 :0:1 with
Levitt abstaining.
B. Edenvale Park Commitments
The Planner described and outlined open space cco mitarents by Henvale in
their 1970 PUD, (excluding golf course area) , see sap dated March 13, I.978.
Redpath stated originally Eden:-4ie did receive. density credit for tlse
golf colas: acreage.
Notion
Bearman wtoved, Redpath seconded, that the open space commitments as
outlined on map ,March 13, 1978, (consistent with EJ' -�nrale's on gin-A
PUD)are acceptable in lieu of cash in lieu of land paysamt, notion c.%rried
4 :0. 1 with Levitt abstaining.
IX. ADJOURNA'. .Nml,
Bearman moved, McCulloch seconded to adjourn at 12: 15 as. Notion carried.
Reapectfully submitted,
Jean Johnson