Planning Commission - 02/27/1978 I
AGENDA_
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, February 27, 1978
7:30 PM , City Hall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- R011 Call
CO_ MMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, Lynch, Retterath , Redpath,
Bearman,MCCul 1 och
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson , Jim Jensen
Estimated
7:30 PM I. APPROVAL OF' AGENDA
7:35 II . MINUTES or THE FEB. 13, 1978 MEETING
7:40 III. MEMBERS REPORTS
A. airman
B. Others
IV . REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
7 :45 X A. A;wden hills IiI , The Preserve , request to preliminary plat 32 acres
or single family, multi family, and park uses ; and to rezone 1e
is acres from Rural to R1-13.5 with variances for approximately 30 lots .
A continued public hearing.
8:00 B. Brant Lake View Estates , Thelma Griffith Haynes Property. Request
for rezoning from Rura to R1-22 , and preliminary plat approval of 26
lots on approximately 24 acres . Site is located NW end Bryant 's Long
Lake. A continued public hearing.
8: 16 C. Hillshorou h & Hillsborough Second, The Preserve. Request for rezoning
from Kura to RI-13.5 and preliminary plat approval of 20 acres into
34 lots , and 60 acres into 115 lots respectively. Lot size and setback
variances requested on both additions . A continued public hearing.
V. PETITIONS D REQUESTS:
8:30 A. Super Val u Stores Inc. , request for rezoning from Rural to Office
approximately 40 acres for corporate headquarters located on south
end of Bryant Lake on a total site of approximately 140 acres.
9:00 D. Prairie East 40. 5th & 6th Additions request by Fustad Development
?-or rezoning of apprdx matey70 acres from Rural to R1-13.5 and
RM 10'. 5 and preliminary plat approval for approximately 200 units of
L o ngle ialifii iy and quadrami ni ums . The additions are located in the
NE and NW corners of the Co. Rd. 1 and Franlo Read intersection.
A public hearing.
9:30 C. Prairie East 7tf 8th & 9th Additions , request by Hustad Development
Fr•_ rezon ng o approx matey acres from Rural to RM 6.5 and preii_mi-
nary plat approval of approximately 200 units The additions are-
located East and West of linden Drive, Wait of Co. Rd. 18. A public
hearing.
Planning Commission Agenda
Monday, Feb. 27, 1978
Page 2
V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS: , continued
9:50 D. Raven Rid9SL Edenval a Inc. . request for rezoning and platting of
approximately 14 acres for 22 single family and 24 townhouses.
The site is located on Outlot V. Edenvale 3rd Addition, East of
Hipp 's Cedar Point Townhouses. A public hearing.
10:15 VI . OLD BUSINESS
10:20 VII . NEW BUSINESS
10:25 VIII . PLANNER'S REPORT
10: 3C IX. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
ved
Monday, February 27, 1978 773ro
0PR, City Hall
COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, McCulloch, Lynch
COMMISSION ABSENT: Lit Retterath, Paul Redpath , Beaman
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson -
INVOCATION: Giver, by Pastor Gary Peterson, Immanuel Lutheran Church
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Schee moved, c u och seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
II . MMINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 131, 1978 MEETING
Add new F, page 5, Bryant Lake View Estates
Considerable discussion followed relative to the feasibility of building a
collector road through a residential area after the homes are constructed.
Motion: Lynch moved, Schee seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted
ana corrected. ;Motion carried 3:0:1 with Sundstrom abstaining.
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Mairman Sundstrom
1. Sundstrom announced that this evening is Commission member Sdwe's
last acting, and thanked her for her past bears of service.
B. Others none
IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. tmsden Hil is III The Preserve, request to preliminary plat 32 acres
fosingle family ,multi-family, and park uses; am to reto:►e 16 acres
from Rural to R1-13.5 with variances for approximately 30 lots. A
continued public hearing.
The Planner referred the Coa.ission to the Feb. 21 , 1978 letter from The Preserve
regar0+ing outlots E and F awd stated The Preserve has agrve4 to alternate acewss
to uutlot D. perhaps along the souv� side of the stom water retention pW. He
added The Preserve has indicated that outlot G will be developed in duplexes.
The Planner suggested the northern part of outlet E and outlet F,should be dedicated
to the oubl i c , and the storm water pond within ouf l at F skoul d resin i n Presartie
association ownership with use available to the public.
Don Hess , The Preserve, stated he agrees with the staff repoft and tern mar+ions.
Su-ndstrom asked if anyone in the audience had questions or cam ts.
Mr. Kurland, 10186 Laurel Drive, objected to ,the pond rem i n i ng in Preserve
+�ership as it would remove it frah public use.
The P i brine r rtp l i ed the C i ter prefers. the omrshi a and daily ma i n tetifte bit Tilt
Preserve's respons i bi 1 i ty, with right of access For all the pubs i c.
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Motion 1•
c ee moved, Lynch seconded, to close the public hearing on Amsden Hills III
preliminary plat. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 2:
Scree moved, McCulloch seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
Amsden Hills III rezoning from Rural to R1.-13.5 with lot size and setback variances
as per the staff report of Jan. 25 , 1978 and The Preserve letter of Feb. 21 , 1978;
including ,that the storm retention pond be the responsibility of the Preserve home-
owner' s association and the City have responsibility of outl of F and the northern
portion of outlot E. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 3:
Scree moved, McCulloch seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
Amsden Hills III preliminary !plat dated Jan. 12 , 1978 including the same items
as in Motion 2. Motion carried unanimously.
B. Bryant Lake ;view Est3tps , Thelma Griffith Haynes Property. Request for
rezoning from Rura to R1-22 , and preliminary plat approval of 26 lots on
approximately 24 acres. Site is located NW end Bryant's Long Lake.
A continued public hearing.
The Planner stated the staff is suggesting the east/west road in the plat.
bave 60' right-of-way to allow construction of a 32-36' wide street of 2 lanes .
In addition to the 60' ROW, the staff is recommending the developer place in a
-oad of 30' width with a cul-de-sac at the bottom of the hill , and construction
of a trail 8 ' wide .
The Planner reviewed the background information from 1974-1976 regarding the
Crosstown extension and al terante access for Beach Roam residents .
Lynch expressed concern that once the residents are along the 30' wide street,
it will be very difficult to upgrade the street to a collector and connect
• through to Rowland Road.
Sundstrom inquired what other benefit, than allowing resident access to Bryant Lake
Park , the proposed bridge over I-494 Mould serve: The Planner replied such a
bridge would allow the Beach Road residents access to the west without having to
use regional freeway systems.
Lynch asked if decibel readings had been taken recently at the site. The Planner
stated the most recent readings were taken in the approximate location of lot 13,
at a reading of 69 decibels.
The Planner stated the staff is recommending approval of the rezoning and preliminary
plat contingent upon the staff report and inclusion of additional noise barriers.
Mr. Hakon Torjesen, 6605 Rowland Road, submitted a petition from residents dated
Feb. 27, 1978. Mr: Torjesen objected to the connection of Beach Road and Rowland
Road. He believed the regional park is well served by regional road systems an'
will not require additional access. He expressed his and other Rowland Road
residents desire to be kept out of the stream of development as they do not desire
their neighborhood to develop, but do favor Eden Prairie' s development.
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aproved
Planning Commission Minutes -3- Feb. 27, 1978
,• The Planner believed approval of the Bryant Lake View Estates plan will not
mean approval of a through street to Rowland Road, but allows the possibility.
Lynch inquired if the 8' trail would be consistent with the Hike=-avlBikeway
Report. The Planner responded affirmative , adding the trail would be a
'backbone' trail .
Mr. Hemping, 6641 Beach Road, asked what the future plans for Beach Road are
with the 62 Crosstown extension. The Planner replied the intersection of Beach
and Crosstown would be realigned to the east.
Motiun 1 :
Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to close the public hearing on Bryant Lake
View Estates preliminary plat. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 2 :
Lynch moved , McCulloch seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the Bryant Lake View Estates rezoning from Rural to R1-22 for 26 lots based
upon the Feb. 15, 1978 staff report. Motion Carried 3: i with Schee voting nay.
Motion 3:
Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to recommend approval of the preliminary plat
dated Jan. 16, 1978 based upon the Feb. 15 , 1978 staff report. Motion carried
3: 1 with Schee voting nay.
SC. Hillsborough b Hillsborough Second, The Preserve, Request for rezoning
from Ruralto 1-1 and preliminary plat approval of 20 acres into 34 '"�
lots , and 60 acres into 115 lots respectively. Lot size and setback
variances requested on both additions. A continued public hearing.
The Planner informed the Commission The Preserve had not submitted revised
grading plans on the revised plat until last Thrusday, therefore, no staff report
has been completed todate.
Motion
frclrulToch moved, Schee seconded, to continue the public hearing on Hillsborough
and Hillsborough Second to the March 13th meeting for a staff report.
V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Super Valu Stores Inc. , request for rezoning from Rural to Office for
approximately 37 acres for corporate headquarters located on south end
of Bryant Lake on a total sit? of approximately 140 acres.
Mr. John Morrissey, Senior Vice-President, Super Valu Stores , Hopkins , introduced
Mr. Robert Dill of EllE-be b Associates , who have conducted the site analysis.
Mr.i'iorri ssey stated Super Valu has purchased 140 acre site on the Southwest shore
of Bryant Lake , are requesting rezoning to Office for approximately 37 acres
for their corporate office, and are looking forward to their move to 'Eden Prairie.
�► Mr. Dill , El lerbe, presented slides of the proposed Super Valu Office site
depicting existing hills, vegetation, surrounding land uses , access, proposed
parking lot location, and sight views from lake.
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Mr. Dill stated Super Valu intends to plant additional vegetation, to incrAase
the screening of the building from the lake in the Winter time.
Mr. Morrissey stated design studies to establish which area of the site is
most suited for building locationand wh-;ch will have least impact on the land
and keep it as close to nature as possible have been conducted and the site
most favorable is the one proposed for rezoning.
Mr. Dill informed the Commission three neighborhood meetings have been conducted
to familiarize residents with Super Valu's plans .
Lynch inquired if Super Valu has plans for the 100 remaining acres . Mr. Morrissey
repl icd the headquarter office bui iTding will only require about 35-40 acres , but
they purchased the Entire acreage for salt , therefore controlling the area to
surround their corporate office.
Sundstrom inquired what types of trees are existing cn the site. Dill replied
elm, willows , oaks and some fruit trees.
McCulloch , referring to the 2-27-78 letter from Don Sorensen , 7121 Wi i 1 ow Creek
Road, asked if the proposed building is within the floodplain. Mr. Dill disagreed,
stating the DNR has not yet established a high water mark for Bryant Lake and they
will be meeting with the Drat and watershed district
Lynch asked what type of bonds are requested. Mr. Morrisey replied industrial .
revenue bonds in the amount of $1 ,000,000, not the $1 ,000 which is a typographical
error in the brochur .
Mr. Harrison , 6941 Beach Road, stated Ellerbe :nd Super Valu has been meeting with
residents over the last 2-3 months. He complimented Super Valu and Ellerbe's on
tha cooperation received, and hoped Super Yalu would become good corporate neighbors
of the area and of the City.
Mr. Peterson ,7147 Topview asked if any portion of the remaining site could be
developed as a distribution center. Mr. Dill replied if additional improvements
are desired, thre proponent must further apply for rezoning and receive approval .
Mr.Morri s sey stated a di st ri bu-�;i on center is not intended to be part of their
corporate office site development.
Diane Fisher, 7275 Topview , asked if Super Valu had plans to expand in the future.
14r. Morrissey rep i i ed office expansion may be needed in the future, and ;f so, they
would return to the City for approval .
Mike Sclan, KRSI , inquired how tall the office structure would be. Mr. Dill
replied 46 feet.
Lou Fisher,7275 Topview R& expressed disapproval of ' spot locating' of industrial/
comm*rli al type uses.
The Planner stated the site is depi cted i n the Major Center Area Planned Unit
®+ Development as housing and regional cormercial . Super Yalu is requesting an
amendnent to the MCA PUD for 1 office structure, instead of multiple housing;
and the remainder of the 100 acres will not be developed unless future requests
are approved.
Notion: Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to continue the request tc March 13th
for a staff report. Motion carried unanimously.
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i B. Prairie East 4th.5th & 6th Additions , request by Hustad Development for
rezoning of approximately 70 acres from Rural to R1-13.5 and RM 6. 5 and
preliminary plat approval for aporoximately 200 units nf singe family a„A
quadraminiums. The additions are located in the NE and NW corners of y
Co. Rd. 1 and Franlo Road. A public hearing.
C. Prairie East 7th,8th & 9th Additions , request by Hustad Development for
rezoning of approximately 50 acres from Rural to RM 6.5 and preliminary
plat approval of approximately 200 units. The additions are located east
or Linden Drive and West of Co. Rd. 18. A public hearing.
B S C considered together.
Dick Putnam, Hustad' s , suggested since only 3 commission members remain , and
a newly appointed member would begin March 13th , he would postpone the slide
presentation and give a general outline of the pro-jects tonight. He informed
the commission Hustads met with the neighborhood res i dents l ast Fri n ay, He
summarized the 4th-6th Additions as fol 1 ows : 4th Addi ti in , single family
detached, 2.4 units/acre; 5th Addition , 100 quadraminiums , 25 units , built by
Orrin-Thompson , 5.8 units/acre, approximate sale price$43,000 ; 6th Addition ,
single family detached, 52 lots , 2 .48 units/acre, sale price approximately$50,000
- $80,000.
Sundstrom asked what the overalidensity of Additions 4-6 would be. Mr. Putnam
did not have the exact figure. The Planner estimated 3 units/ acre and Mr.
Putnam Pgreed.
Jerry i azzara, Windsor Development ,summarized the 7th,8th & 9th Additions
as follows: 7th Addition , 56 townhouses , 1000-1600 square feet / unit , split
entry and walkout design, 4. 3 acre park site; 8th Addition quadraminium
units , 900-1300 square foot units , sale price $46,000-55 ,000 9th Addition ,
88 quadraminium units, 2 acre park site.
Sundstrom asked if the units in Prairie East 1st, 2nd & 3rd Additions are completed.
Putnam replied not all units are sold in the 3rd Addition, but the 1st and 2nd
are neerly so'.d out.
Sandstrom inquired as to the statu of Co. Rd. 18' s upgrading. Putnam repl ied
the County has informed him the road will be four-lane with interchange ifforove-
ments at Co. Rd. 1 in the near future.
The Planner added the County is presently requiring 60 foot right-of-way from
centerline for Co. Rd. 18.
Sundstrom asked if the townhouse and quadraminium units would be owner occupied.
lKazzara replied affirmative.
Bob Kurland910186 Laurel Drive, inquired how and when the parkland purposed
would be developed, and if trails would connect the additions and parkland.
Putnam replied the 2 mini-parks would be graded and seeded and the developer
•� anticipates having the mndel s ready for the !August Parade of Homes.
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approved
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Susan Short, 10101 Laurel Drive expressed concern that drains from the
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7th Addition would add additional water flaw to that presently occuring
across her and neighbor's backyards.
Steve Jacobs , 9645 Squire Lane, stated his opposition to multiple family
in the 5th,7th, 8th & �+h AAA:0 OF1: .
Keen Franz, 9880 Squire Lane, ob r.,cted to the par!: proposed south of Co. Rd. 1
as young children would not be able to cross the road to utilize the park. He
also expressed concern over traffic increases , and the developer's previous
removal of trees other than elms from Prairie East Additions.
Mr. Kurland expressed disapproval of Hustad's present maintenance of outlots.
David Brandager, 9660 Lord Court, asked what previous approvals exist on
the 7th Addition. The Planner replied a combination of townhouse and apartment
units.
Moti on:
y5m; Moved, McCulloch seconded, to continue the public hearings on Prairie East
4th,5th,6th , 7th ,8th and 9th Additions to the March 13th meeting for staff
report(s) . '."lotion carried unanimously.
D. Raven Ride Edenvale Inc. , request for rezoning and platting of approximately
14 acres for 72 single family and 24 townhouses. The site is located on
Cutlot V. Edenvale 3rd Addition, East of Hipp's Cedar Point Townhouses.
A public hearing.
Mr. Peterson, Edenvale inc. , informed the Commission the site was originally
planned for townhouses , but the present request is for 22 single family lots
and 26 townhouse units. he stated the smallest single family lot is 11 ,700
square feet with a less than 2 unit/acre density .
Sundstromt asked how long of a cul-de-sac is depicted. Peterson estimated the
length to be SW feet.
Roger Miller, 7036 Springhill Circle , stated after he received notification of
the public hearing he ccrttacted Mr. Peterson and .reviewed the plat. He believed
the request would be a good use of the site.
John Iverson, 15101 Summerhill [hive; asked how many feet would exist between
preposwd lots and the nearest lit in the 7th addition. Peterson estimated 150 feet.
Iverson then asked how much - the lots would sell for and the expected price of
lot and sl"le family halve. Peterson estimated the single family lots would sell
for s20,0M ; and lot plus home prices would be $80,000-130,000.
W. Paulson, 70gg Wwdl and , inquired how much the towmhouses are -expecred
to sill for. heterson estimated $45400-65 9000.
W. Notch. 6937 Edtnvsle Blvd. + inquired how many feet would exist beta thy!
pr�opvsld wommme es and Cedar Point Tow9muses. Pete. --m estimated 65 feet.
Notch then swggast*d the p 1 an be r!►r i sed clown to 5 townhouse units instead of 6.
approved
Planning Conwission Minutes -7- Feb. 27, 1978
Iverson suggested as man trees 'gge y as possible be retained on the site to act as
a buffer.
Notion :
Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded, to continue the public hearing on Raven Ridge
to the March 13th meeting for a staff report. Motion carried unanimously.
VI . OLD BUSINESS none
VII . NEW BUSINESS
Lynch asked if the City has adopted the policy of requesting developers to remove
diseased trees prior to lot sale.
The Planner responded the staff is recommending such when ever appropriate.
VI I I. PLANNER' S REPORT none
I X. ADJO ANMENT
Lynch moved,. McCulloch seconded, to adjourr. the meeting at 11 :30 PM. Motion
carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean Johnson