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Planning Commission - 01/23/1978 - Joint Meeting AGENDA JOINT MEETING BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT C"ISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION TIME: 7:00-7:30 PM PLACE: Eden Prairie City Hall DATE: January 23, 1978, Monday Develont Commission: Chairman Dean Edstrom, Don Opheim, Tim Pierce, Mike Pohlen , Roy Terwilliger, Dennis Truempi , Jerry Wi gen Planning Commission: Chairman Sundstrom, Norma Schee, Paul Redpath , John McCulloch , William Bearman, Liz Rettera th, Richard Lynch I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. DISCUSSION III . ADJOURNMENT 7:30 PM MINUTES JOINT MEETING BETWEEN PLANNING COMMISSION b DEVELOPMENT C I SS I ON approved Monday, January 23, 1978 7;00 PM City Hall DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Edstrom, Tim Pierce, Dennis Truempi , Don Ophe i m DEVELOPMENT C"ISSION ABSENT.: Rov Terwilliger PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Retterath , McCulloch , Lynch' , Searman , Redpath STAFF PRESENT: City iianager Roger Ulstad, City Planner Chris Enger, Planning Assistant Jean Johnson OTHERS yPRESEHT: Mayor Wolfgang Penzel City Manager Roger Ulstad I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA The Commissions approved the agenda as presented. II . DISCUSSION Dean Editrom referred to the ordinances establishing the Development Commission , which the Planning Commission had received , and stated one role of the Develop- ment Commission is to be an advisory conndssion to the Planning Commission. He stated the Development Commission believes their duties are to attract suitable business to the City, assist in solving related problem , and to gather information on existing businesses in the City. Also, the Development Commission will be handling items as transportation , funding, etc. Chairman Edstrom then asked the Planning Commission's views on hoer a prospective business shoulu be handled if they are interested in a City site which does not have proper zoning or such zoning is inconsistent with the Guide Plan. Lynch felt the Development Commission should assist interested businesses in clarifying which sites are suitable for developmenr and reasons why they may not be suitable for use or have a favorable chance o)f approval . Edstrom asked if the Planning Commission would be willing t.- discuss develon- ment possibilities with a Drospective business prior to an appiicdt;on for development being filed. Chairman Sundstrom replied the Planning Staff is always available to meet with prospective businesses. McCulloch agreed, and added he believes the Planning Staff is aware of the Planning Commission's feelings on development , Planning Director Chris Finger briefed both commissions that the staff does meet with business representatives and supplies to them the necessary information_ for tt� "Co ne&ke decisiorts , i .e. , Guide Flan , Procedures , tiNw..Yrawies , costs , etc. , and -answers questions related to such information. Mr. Enger felt the role of tint development Commission to assist business in outlining sites available , interpretation of ordinances and procedures , etc. , - is very valuable Chairman Sundstron stated the Planning Commission is willing to negotiate types of land use, i .e. I-2 Park vs . I-S Park , but when non-residential uses are proposed in proximity to existing residential, and in conflict with the Guide Ptan, s!,ch deviation is difficult. Joint PlanningCommission/Development nt -2- �ro23, 1478 oP� Commission Minutes Tim Pierce inquired how the Development Comission could assist the Planning Commission. Beaman suggested the Development Commission could attempt to attract gcrm3 business to the City, assist In translating ordinances , and to Clarify #to approval process so that an individual does not feel the Development Comsdssaw"s endorsement is a "clear ok". Richard Lynch stated the Planning Commission is charged with reviewing proposals in conjunction with the approved Guide Plan, and if an application is in conflict with the Guide Plan , then it has to be a good sell job to vary from the Guide Plan. Sundstrom agreed, adding the burden of proof is on the proponent to shm the advantage of changing the Guide Plan. Lynch believed the City is suffering from the "last buyer syndrome", i .e. , residential areas do not want anything non-residential near them. Paul Redpath felt the Development Commission should find areas already "earmarked" for uses for incoming business , and not try to change the Guide Plan. Edstrcm stated it is very difficult to attract businesses after some uses are turned down by the City. Sundstrom inquired what fines are looking for today. Don Opheim replied, depending on size, firms consider;financing, Zoning, availability of utilities , timeframe of approval process , possibility of industrial revenue bonds ,, reputation of community,etc. Mr. Opheimr believed the quicker questions of businesses are answered the bettor possibility they may locate in the City of Eden Prairie instead of another. community. Both Commis-,ions agreed the Joint meeting was helpful in clarifying role's and fee 1 i ngs ; and continue lines of commm -i cati do open between the commissions. Dean Edstrom then distributed a location crap of the Cheap cal Waste Landfi l l Facility proposed in Eden Prairie. He stated the site, ntar the Airport was selected 3 years ago by the EPA. Ka�yor Penze1 informed the Commission a public meeting would be held February 20s 1978 at which public i►iput would be received and it is very important that intamted residents attend. F6%:aC i e♦,1i�it i� 00 �. t�t�' C.t aa,►i st l OfiS the LOYnCI has Set CoAnC i 1/CO ri SS ioh5 meeting for Tuesday, Januar; 319 1978 , 7:30 PM , at the City Hall r et which time the Updated Comprehensive Guide Plan would be presented. He waged all to attend. III . ADJOURNMENT - SuRStrom moved, Pierce seconded, to adjourn the meetipS at 7:50 PH. Nation carried. _ kspectfully submitted. Jean Johnson AGENDA Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, January 23, 1978 7:30 PM, City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, Redpath , McCulloch, Retterath, Lynch, Bearman STAFF ME113ERS: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson , Jim Jensen Estimated INVOCATION --- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE --- ROLL CALL times PM 7:35 I . APPROV' L OF AGENDA 7:40 II. MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 9, 1978 MEETING 7:45 III . MEMBERS REPORTS A. Chairman Sundstrom B. Others 7:50 IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. COR Investment , request to preliminary plat and rezone from Rural to RM 6.5 and Community Commercial approximately 19 acres in the Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4. A continued public hearing. 8: 30 B. Su eramerica, request to rezone present use at Southwest corner of TH 5/Co.Rd.4 from Planned Study to Highway Commercial . V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS 8:45 A. Hennepin Col!nty Library Site, request to rezone approximately 2 acres from Rural to Public for construction of future 14,1hrary. The site is located north of Schooner Boulevard and south of Homart Eden 1'rai rie Shopping Center. 9:15 B. Amsden Hills III , The Preserve, request to preliminary plat 32 acres for single family, multi-family, and park uses ; and to rezone 16 acres from Rural to R1-13.5 with variances for approximately 30 lots. A public hearing. 9:45 C. Minmesota Mini-Stora92 2nd Addition , request by Bruce Hubbard to rezone from Rural & Highway/Commercial to I-2 Park 3.06 acres for individual storage warehouse space. The site is north of the present Minnesota Mini-Storage building at 6570 Flying Cloud Drive. 10:15 VI . OLD BUSINESS 10:20 VII. NEW BUSINESS 10:25 VIII . PLANNER'S REPORT jo IX. ADJOURNMEI!T MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING app Monday, January 23, 1978 7:30oPMdCity Hall C"ISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Retterath,McCul1och ,Lynch , Bearman ,Redpath CLAIM IJJi%A1 n0aL111l 112e Staff Present: Chris Eager, Jean Johnson I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA • Re path moved, Retterath seconded, to add udder New Business , Waste Control Site , and approve agenda as submitted and amended. Motion carried unanimously. II . MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 9 , 1978 MEETING P. 49 D. , 2nd line should read split a 4 acre tract into two 2 acre tracts . . . Retterath moved, Redpath seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted and corrected. Motion carried unanimously. III. MEMBERS REPORTS W. Chairman Sundstrom 1. Sundstrom informed the Commission he had received a letter from Mr. Feeri ck about the recreational center and copies would be distri- buted to the Commission. 2. Sundstrom informed the Commission the Ord. #51 Adhoc Committee on a 1.6 to 8 vote recommend approval of Ord. 51 to the Metropolitan Airports Commission. And MAC at their meeting did adopt Ord. 51 thereby allowing restricted jet use of Flying Cluud Airport. ' B. Others 1. Lynch informed the Commission the Board of Appeals on a 3: 1 vote did approve the land division referred to on the Commission' s Minutes of Jan. 9, 1978, page 4, (divisinn of a 4 acre tract into 2 two acre tracts). 2. Retterath informed the Commission she attended the Hustad Development Tour and Luncheon on Saturday. IV. REPORTS AND RECOtrt4ENDATIONS A. CUR Investment, request to preliminary plat and rezone from Rural to RM 6. 5 and Community Commercials apprcximately 19 acres in the Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4. A conti nued public hearing. Bruce Knutson, Knutson Architects , briefly reviewed the COR proposal . He stated the plan conforms to the County and State Highway Department's recommendations . Sundstrom asked if the proponent had any questions or comments on the staff report. Knutson replied he did not have time to thoroughly review it, but would ask questions as the discussion proceeds. Chris Enger informed the Commission the 4/5 Study depicts the southwest corner of Co. Rd. 4 and TH 5 as mixed residential and continuation of the existing gas station. He felt the 1978 Proposed GuiJe Plan's illustration of commercial at this corner reflects the existing gas station use, not additional commercial as COR proposes. Although, Don Brauer, Guide Plan Consultant , believes the COR proposal represents approximately the area outlined on the 1e78 Guide Plan. approved Planning Commission Minutes -2- Jan. 23, 1978 The Planner stated the Planning Staff is recommending Alternate A of the 4/5 Study for transportation and land uses of mixed residential and retention of she existing gas station. He believed the Guide Plan stresses community camerci al uses throughout the City to .serve neighborhoods . whereas this request would produce a concentration of commercial uses at a single intersection. He felt if COR Investment' s proposal is approved by the City, then extreme care should by given to the geometrics of access and treatment between the commercial and duplex areas. S!J.ndstrom stated he believes Prairie Village Mdl l meets the neighborhood needs , and questioned why the proponent feels more commmercial is needed by the ;Seigh- borhood. Knutston replied the commercial sites would provide a variety of prepared foods for the residents of the City. The Planner stated as the request stands , the proponent is requesting rezoniili without outlining the specific uses thall may occur. If the site is zoned with unknown uses tied to the rezoning, anything might occur. Lynch did not feel the site should be commercial , especially when the types of commercial uses are unknown. Bearman expressed concern that approval of this request may produce the same development that is occuring at Mitchell Road and TH 5. Sundstrom asked if anyone in the audience had questions or comments. None were raised. a Motion 1 : Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to close the public hearing on the COR Investment proposal . Motion carried unanimously. Motion 2 : Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to recommend to the City Council denial of the preliminary plat and rezoning requests of COR based on the following: 1. Traffic-although the new plan shows access to the site moved back from the intersection, 1200 ADT will certainly add to an existing bad situation. 2. Poor mix of residential and commercial uses. The proponent has not add"-ssed a sensitive transition between these uses on the site plan. 3. Circulation-the way in which traffic is brought through the site will leave the city with the same problems with truck traffic as currently exists at McDonalds. Headb' ight and noise problems for the residential units would be severe. 4. Land made available for commercial uses at this location has not been planned for, and significantly subtracts from the desirability of uses locating in other neighborhood centers or in the MCA, thereby increasing trips across town and nct meeting needs of existing residents. 5. At such time as TH- 5 is .no longer a regional facility, major emphasis of commercial may switch Elsewhere, thereby leaving an intersection of deteriorating conenerci al uses in its wake. Motion carried unanimously. approved Planning Commission Minutes -3- Jan. 23, 1978 B. Superawerica, request to rezone present use at Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4 from Planned Study to Highway Commercial . The Planner referred the Commission to the staff report and the variances contained within necessary for approval of this request. He stated the Planning Staff is recommending approval contingent upon the Jan. 19, 1978 staff report. Redpath asked if any aspects of the plan had changed from the presentation givenon Jan. 9th. Mr. Thomson , Thompson Architects , replied negative. The Planner expressed concern that the additional convenience goods to be sold by the station are available at limited hours across the highway; and that 4ha additional vehicle interactions will bO detrimental to the present congested intersection . He believed su.:i: a use would he very appropriate at other sites - in the City to serve other neighborhoods that are without nearby convenience goods. Redpath did not see the need for additional food centers at the TH 5/Co. Rd. 4 intersection. Sundstrom believed the use requested would have a regional draw , and is not a neighborhood convenience. Bearman felt contents sold by gas stations may be beyond our control as the services of gas stations has increased to meet many needs. Mr. Mike Holte , Superameri ca , stressed that their use will :act be a grocery store, they will not increase traffic but will exist on the present trips, and their 24 hour operation is , a needed service which the City does not presently have. He stated they have tried to cooperate with CCR , but received no cooperation. Mr. Fei l=ic„. ������-�::��;L:�, disagreed with the staff's prediction that their use would attract additional trips. The Planner stated the staff did request traffic information from Superamerica but none was received, so the staff did general traffic predictions. Motion: Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to recoo, nd to the City Council dersial of the rezoning request of Superameri ca from Planned Study to highway Com erci al . Motion carried 5:1 with Bearman voting nay. V. PETITIONS AND RE ESTS iieijiif, - In wupty Library Site, request to rezone approximately 2 acres from Rural to Public for construction of future library. The site is located north of Schooner Boulevard and south of Km,7art Eden Prairie Center. Mr. Don Vermeland, site architect, outlined the site's location and stated first phase construction would be 10,004 square feet and second 9.3%ase construction approximately 5,000 square feet. He stated trees and berms are planned to provide a buffer from Schooner Boulevard and the interior Horaart parking lot. approved Planning Commission Minutes 4- Jan. 23, 1978 Redpath inquired when the County anticipates construction of the first phase. sMr. Vermeland replied approximately 3 years. Lynch asked why the County is applying for rezoning three years prior to anticipated building. Mr. Bill Schroeder, County Architect, Property Managewent Hennepin County, replied the County usually acquires land early so higher prices later do not have to be paid by taxpayers. Sundstrom inquired =f the sits is large enough to accommodate proper sight lines and access. The Planner replied the staff would address those concerns in the staff report. Bearman inquired if the County Library would provide services other than books. Mr. Vermel and replied a community room is planned and other lases may be possible. The Planner informed the commission the County is requesting rezoning of 2 acres from a 3 acre site and the land division would be handled administratively. Doti on : Lyric moved,ved, McCulloch seconded, to continue the request te) the Feb. 13th meeting for a staff report. Notion carried unanimously. B. Amsden Hills III , 1 he Preserve ,, request to preliminary plat 32 acres for singe ly , multi-family, and park uses ; and to rezone 16 acres from Rural to R1-13.5 with variances for approximately 30 lots. A public hearing. The Planner informed the Commission Don Ness will present the project, there is no staff report todate, and the Council is presently considering payment of cash park fee on past PUDs. Mr. Ness reviewed the s i te'5 soil conditions , vegetati on b slopes as distributed to the commission in the appi ; _ation. He stated The Preserve is still delib- erating on how to develop- the outlots and the deer corridor. Lynch inquired if the Anderson Lakes Parkway location had been resolved. Mir. Ness replied affirmative. Lynch remarked that approximately 30% of the lots are under the 13,500 square foot size minim . Sundstrom inquired how the isianu 'In the cul -de-sac would be handled. Mr. Hess replied it Mould be deeded to the City and ma i nata i ned by the HOA. Rettereth asked if the City would hA requiring the developer to remove diseased Ur*3 dvriily ifitt+il tuiis A01Fii0-a%irin. ihow- r:artiier rep lived f: jS t-r.i g -.' cv. • ^ded by the City Forester and Cowmanity Services Department. Motion: [jiWmoved, IbUerath seconded, f.o continue the public hearing to Feb. 13th trd direct staff, to prepare a_ report. Lotion carried unanimously. 'approved Planning Commission Minutes -5- Jan. 23, 1978 C. Minnesota Mini-StoraZ 2nd addition, request by Bruce Hubbard to rezone from Rural and Highway Commercial to I-2 Park 3.06 acres for individual storage warehouse space. she site is north of the present Minnesota Mini-Storage building at 6570 Flying Cloud Drive. Mr. Bruce Hubbard located the site for the Commission and stated he desires to expand the storage facility. fie added plantings and berroas would be installed along with a fence enclosure with a gate to be locked at 8:00 FM. Redpath asked hoer much. the garage spaces rent out at. Mr. Hubbard replied the prices start at $18/month ( 50 sq. ft. ) . Retterath asked how many garage spaces exist and how many are proposed in the 2nd Addition. Mr. Hubbard replied 260 units exist (40 ,000 square feet) and 34,000 square feet additional space is planned in the 2nd addition. Sundstrom inquired how many doors may be visible to the freeway. The Planner stated the staff would address the project's visibility in the staff report. Lynch asked the staff to also include in the staff report an overlay of surrounding land uses. Motion : Bearman moved, Retterath seconded, to continue the request to the Feb. 13th meeting and direct the staff to prepare a report. Motion carried unanimously. VI . OLD BUSINESS 1. Iynch stated he would be willing to serve again on the Board of Appeals unless another Planning Commission member would like to serve. 2. Hazardous Waste Disposal Site Motion: die path moved, McCulloch seconded, that the Planning Comnissicr desires to go on record in opposition to the location of the Hazardous Waste Disposal site in Eden Prairie. Motion carried unanimously. (Location map distributed, and discussion on waste Site occurred in Joint Development/Planning Convnission Minutes , Jan. 239 1978, 7 :00 PM) VII. NEW BUSINESS. none VII;. PLANNER' S REPORT I. e Planner distributed copies of the Metro Council Housing Chapter. 2. The Planner distributed copies of the Metro Council Social Goals . IX. ADJOURNMENT spat moved, Lynch seconmas to adjourn the meeting at 10:35 PM. Motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson A G E N D A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND PLANNING C ISSION TIME: 7 :00-7 :30 PM PLACE: Eden Prairie City Hall DAI'E: Jancary 23 , 1978, Monday Development Lomnissiar : Chairman Dean Edstrom, Don Opheim, Tim Pierce, Mike Pohl en , Roy Te-vi l l i ger, Dennis Truempi , Jerry Wi gen Plannin_q Commission : Chairman Sundstrom, Norma Schee , Paul Redpzth , Jchrt McCulloch , William Beannan, Liz Retterath , Richard Lynch I . APPROVAL OF' AGENDA II . DISCUSSION III , ADJOURNMENT 7 : 30 PM OOINT MEETING BETWEEN Ar ri..MV4iii+ru t viii_ASSION & DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION apprcvea Monday , Jar;uary 233, 1976 7 :nO PM City Hall DEVELOPMENT COMMIS PRESENT: Chairman Edstrom, 1im Pierce , Dennis Truempi , Don Jpheim DEVELOPMENT COHN—IS51UN ABSENT: Roy Terwilliger :u PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Retterath , McCulloch , Lynch , Bearman , Rednath STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Roger Ulstad , City Planner Chris Enger, Planning As,�i scant Jean Johnsen OTHERS PRESENT: mayor Wolfgang Penzel City Manager Roger Ulstad I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA 1he Commissions approved the agenda as presented. H . Q SCUSSIQN Dean Edstrom referred to the ordinances establishinq the Development Commission , which the Planning Commission had received , and stated one role of the Develop- ment Cormili ss i on is) to be an advisory coam;ni ss i on to the Planning Commission. lie stated the Development Commission believes their duties are to attract :suitable business to the City , assist in solving related pricblems , and to -. gather information on existing businesses in the City. Also, the Development 10 Convnission will be handling items as transportation, funding , etc. Chairman Edstrom then asked the Planning C-xnmission 's views on how a prospective business should be handled if they are interested in a City site wnirh does not have proper zoning or such zoning is inconsistent with the Guide Plan . Lynch felt th�� Development Commission should assist interested businesses in clarifying which sites are suitable for development and reasons why they may not be suitable for use or have a favorable chance of approval . Edstrom asked if the Planning Commission would be willing to discuss develop- ment possibilities with a prospective business prior to an application, for development `ei„g tiled. Chairman Sundstrom replied the Planning Staff is always availa,ra_ to meet with prospective businesses. McCulloch agreed, and added he believes the Planning Staff is aware of the Planning Commission 's feelings on development . Planning Director Chris Enger briefed both commissions that the staff does meet with business representatives and supplies to them the necessary information for thorn in make ,1„�, II sil.r. .. i � tix411�C in{ CL;1 f 4 Ut.C�L1t'CS L i/11e i t�d11lC5 costs UGC.e •:u. .v gee �a�ir i a +Visa ! . l ! f f etc. , and answers questions related to such information. Mr. ginger felt the role of the Development Commission to assist business in outlining sites available , interpretation of ordinances and procedures , etc . , is very valuable Chairman Sundstrom stated the Planning Commission is willing to negotiate types of land use , i .e. I-2 Park vs . I-S Park , but when non -residential a;es are proposed in proximity to existing residential, and in conflict with the Guide Plan, such deviation is difficult, approved Joint Planning Commission/Development -2- Jan. 23, 1978 Commission Minutes Tim Pierce inquired how the Development Commission could assist the Planning Commission. Bea rman suggested the Development Commission coO d attempt to attract good L., ictet,b, Lu the City, assist in translating ordinances , and to Clarify the approval process so that an -individual does not feel the Development Cosmnisson 's endersement is a "clear ok" . Richard Lynch stated the Planning Commission is charged with reviewing proposals in conjunction with the approved Guide Plan ,, and i f an application is in conflict with the Guide Plan , then it has to be a good sell job to vary from the Guide Plan. Sundstrom agreed, adding the burden of proof is on the proponent to show the advantage of changing the Guide Plan. Lynch believed the City is suffering from the "last buyer syndrome" , residential areas do not want anything non-residential near then. Paul Redpath felt the Development Commission should find areas al rp►ady "ear-marked" for uses for incoming business , and not try to change the Guide Plan. Edstrom stated it is very difficult to attract businesses after some uses are turned down by the City. Sundstrom inquired what firms are looking for today. Den Opheim replied, depending on size, firms consider; financinq, -zoning, tvailabt 'lity of utilities , timframe of approval process , passibility of industrial revenue bonds , reputation of carermnity,etc. Mr. Opheim believea the quicker questions of businesses are answered the better possibility they may locate in the City of Eden Prai rt_ instead of another. comauni ty. Both Commissions agreed the joint meting was helpful in clarifying role's and feelings ; and continue lines of communication open between the commissions. Dean Edstr m then distributed a location map of the Chemical Waste Landfill Faci 1 i ty proposed in Eden Prairie. He stated the site, near the Airport, was seleC.ed 3 years ago by the EPA. Mayor Penzel informed the Commission a public meeting would be held Feb)-uary 20 , 1978 at which public input would be received anti it is very 'important that interested residents attend. Mavnr Ain-►o l the„ n f%-07 �d the Co,;,s+i s s i ons th,: Council has set a Co[Inc i /CO�m��.ss l o s meeting for Tuesday , Januar, 31, 1978 , 7 :30 RM at the City Hall , at which time the Updated Comprehensive Guide Plan would be presented. He urged all to atte-nd. III . ANI(XJ IMENT Sundstrom moved, Pierce seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 7:50 F14. . Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson 4 i r AGENDA 1 Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, January 23, 1978 7 : 30 PM, City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, Redpath , McCulloch , Retterath, Lynch, Bearman STAFF MEMBERS: Chri ; Enger, Jean Johnson , Jim Jensen Estimated INVOCATION --- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE --- ROLL CALL times PM r 7 : 35 I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA x 7 :40 II. MINUTES OF THE JA.NUARY 9 , 1978 MEETING K 7:45 III . MEMBERS REPORTS A. Chairman Sundstrom B. Others f _. 7:50 IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. COR Investment , request to preliminary plat and rezone from Rural to RM 6. 5 and Community Commercial approximately 19 acres in the Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4. A continued public hearing. 8: 30 B. Superamerica, request to rezone present use at Southwest corner of TH 5/Co. Rd.4 from Planned Study to Highway Commercial . V . PETITIONS ANO RE CHESTS 8:45 A. Hennepin County Library Site , request to rezone approximately '2 acres from Rural to Public for construction of future library. The site is located north of Schooner Boulevard and south of Homart Eden P•-airie Shopping Center. 9: 15 B. Arnsden Hills III , The Preserve , request to preliminary plat 32 acres for single family , multi -family, and park uses ; and to rezone 16 acres from Rural to R1-13. 5 with variances -for approximately 30 lots. A public hearing. 9:45 C. Minnesota Mini-Storage 2n_d Addition , request by Bruce Hubbard to rezone from !aural & Highway/Commercial to I-2 Park 3.06 acres for individual storage warehouse spare. The site is north of the present Minnesota Mini-Storage building at 6570 Flying Cloud Drive . 10 :15 V1 . OLD AUSINESS 10:20 VII . NEW BUSINESS 10 :25 VIII . PLANNER' S REPORT � a I X. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING approved Monday, January 23, 1978 7 :30 PM City Hall COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Re-�terath ,McCul1och ,Lynch , Bearman ,Rednath nnf•prrrrrnu AT%0`r_% T. I- -1- 1/l31'il'1 a JJ�LIB riDJGi1 1 J41lCC Sta f Present: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA • Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to add under New Business , Waste Control Site , and approve agenda as submitted and amended. r*jtion carried unanimously. II . MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 9, 1978 MEETING P. 4, D. , 2nd line shout read split a 4 acre tract into two 2 acre tracts . . . Retterath moved, Redpath seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted and corrected. Motion carried unanimously, III. MEMBERS REPORTS A. Lhai man Sundstrom f. Sundstrom informed the Commission he had received a letter from Mr. Feerick about the recreational center and copies would be distri- buted to the Commission. 2. Sundstrom informed the Commission the Ord. #51 Adhoc Committee on a 16 to 8 vote recommend approval of Ord. 51 to the IMetropol i tan Airports Commission. And MAC at their meeting did adopt Ord. 51 thereby allowing restricted jet use of Flying Cl uud Airport. ' B. Othcrs 1. Lynch informed the Commission the aoard of Appeals on a 3: 1 note .ii d approve the 1 and division referred to on the �ommi ss i on ' s Mi notes of Jan. 9 , 1978, page 4, (division of a 4 acre tract into 2 two acre tracts) . 2. Retterath informed the Commission she attended the Hustad Devel opme L, To;:r and Luncheon on Saturday. IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMEMDAT:ONS A. COR Investment-, request to preliminary plat and re:one from Rural to oM 6. 5 and Community Conmercial approximately 19 acres in the Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4. A continued public hearing. Bruce "--nuts-nn , Knutson Architects , krie - � / reviewec +hA r0(�D r-L~% /1r ��h .+v.+ . V•/ 1 U\ -a i. , L/1 { 1 �� r �..1riG� b114 girl\ VI Vp V.J%A 1 . H%- J IrU$.L:u the plan conforms to the County and State Highway Department ' s recommendations . Sundstrom asKed if the proponent had any questions or cowiments on the staff report. Knutson replied he did not have time to thoroughly review it , but would ask questions as the discussion proceeds . Chris Enger informed the Commission the 4/5 Study depicts the southwest corner of Co. Rd. 4 and TH 5 as mixed residential and continuation of the existing gas station. He felt the 1978 Proposed Guide Plans illustration of commercial at thiscorner reflects the existing gas station use ,, not additional commercl al as COR proposes. Although , Don 3rauer, Guide Plan Consultant , believes the COR proposal represents approximately the area outlined on the 1978 Guide Plan. approved Planning Commission Minutes -2- Jan. 23, 1978 The Planner stated the Planning Staff is recommending Alternate A of the 415 Study for transportation and land uses of mixed residential and retention of the existing c, s station. He believed the Guide Plan stresses community commercial uses throughout the City to serve neighborhoods . whereas this* request would produce a concentration of commercial uses at a single intersection. He felt if COR Investment' s proposal is approved by the City, then extreme care should be given to the geometrics of access dnd treatment between the commercial and duplex areas. Sundst rom stated he believes Prairie Village Mdll meets the neighborhood needs , and questioned why the proponent feels more commercial is needed by the neigh- bonccod. Knutston replied the commercial sites would provide a variety of prepared foods for the residents cf the City. The Planner stated as the request stands , the proponent is requesting rezoning without outlining the specific uses that may occur. If the site is zoned with unknown uses tied to the rezoning, anything might occur. Lynch did not feel the site should be commercial , especially when the types of commercial uses are unknown. Bearman expressed concern *hat approval of this request may produce the same development that is occuring at Mitchell Roar! and TH 5. Sun&trom asked if anyone in the audience had questions or coisaents . None were raised. Motion 1 : Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to close the public hearing en the COR Investment proposal . Motion carried unanimously. Motion 2 : Redpath moved,, Retterath seconded, to recommend to the City Council denial of the preliminary plat and rezoning requests of COR based on the following I _ Traffic-although the new plan shows access to the site moved back from the intersection , 1200 ADT will certainly add to an existing bad situation. 2. Pocr mix of residential and commercial uses . ?he proponent has not addressed a sensitive transition between these uses on the site plan . 3. Circulation-the way in which traffic is brought through the site will leave the r_ii�v with the se w problems with truck traffic as currently exists at Mc©onalds. Headlight and noise problems for the res.t denti al units word d be severe. 4. Land made available for commercial uses at this location has not been planned for, and significantly subtracts from the desirability cl uses locating in other neighborhood centers or in the MCA, thereby increasing trips across town and not meeting needs of existing residents. S. At such time as TH 5 is . ,}o longer a regional facility, ma or emphasis of commercial may switch elsewhere , thereby leaving an intersection of deteriorating commercial uses in its wake. Motion carried unanimously. approved Planning Commission Minutes -3- Jan. 23, 1978 B. Superamerica , request to rezone present use at Southwest corner of TH 5 and Co. Rd. 4 {'rom Planned Study to Highway Commercial . The Planner referred the Commission to the staff report and the variances contained wi4hin necessary for approval of this request. He stated the Planning Staff is recommEndi rag approval contingent upon the Jan. 19, 1978 staff report. kedpath asked if any aspects of the plan had changed from the presentation gi ven on Jan. 9 th. Mr. Thompson. Thompson. Architects , replied negative. The Planner expressed concern that the additional convenience goods to be sold by the station are available at limited hours across the highway, and that the additional vehicle interactions will be detrimental to the present congested intersection. He believed such a use would be very appropriate at other sites - in the City to serve other neighborhoods that are without nearby convenience goods. Redpath did not see the need for additional food centers at the TH S;Co. Rd. 4 intersection. Sundstrom believed the use requested would have a regionoi draw , and is not a neigh5nrhood convenience. B,,arnan felt contents sold by gas stations may oe beyond our control as the services of gas stations has increased to meet many needs . Mr. Mike Hol te , Superameri ca , stressed that their use will not be a grocery store , they will not increase traffic but will exist on the present trips , and their 24 hour operation is - a needed service which the City does not presently have. He stated they have tried to cooperate with COR , but received no cooperation. Mr. Feilmeier, Superamerica , disagreed with the staff' s prediction that their use would a+tract additional trips. The Planner stated the staff did request traffic information from Superamerica but none was received, so the staff did ►?eneral traffic predictions . Motion : ON%. }�` '"' ^'4 ""^1`o�1 ^�'h seconded to recomm2nd to the City Council denial of the rezan ..ng request of Superamerica from Planned Study to Highway Commercial . Motion carried 5 : 1 with Bearman voting nay. y. PETITIONS AND REQLESTS A. Hennepin County Library Site , request to rezuae approximately 2 acres from Rura: to Public for construction of future library. The site is located north of Schooner Boulevard and south of Homa%-t Ede; Prairie Center. Mr. Don Vermpl a-id, s i ?e architect , outlined the site's location and stated first phase construction would be 10 ,000 square feet and second phase cor:strur:tion approximately 5 ,000 square feet. He stated trees and berms are pl anned to prnvi de a. buffer from Schooner Borlleva►d and the interior- Homrt Parking lot- , y approved Punning Commission Minutes -4- Jan . 23, 1978 Redpath inquired when the County anticipates construction of the first phase. Mr. Vermeland replied approximately 3 years. Lynch asked why the County is applying for rezoning three years prior to anticipated building. Mr. Bill Schroeder, County Architect , Property ManageRent Hennepin County , replied the County usually acquires land early so higher pri czs later do not have to be paid by taxpayers. C...a A.-4-wnre► �brf'CM.0 nr4 A+a Ab-nnnv t 1 Mh♦ 14 n a C . %J11%/.i V 1 Vl.. t 10%1%I 1 1 %.%. 1 1 bl.1.. J . %.4. 9.0 1 %AA VL V1r/%110 MV Yr V W..w.•v yr VM r. -,I..r. .. . .)..- • . .►w and access . The Planner replied the staff would address those concerns in the staff report. Bearman inquired if the County Library would provide services other than books . Mr. Vermeland replied a community room is planned and other uses may be possible. The Planner i nforr:wd the commission. the County is requesting rezoning of 2 acres from a 3 acre site and the land division would be handled administratively. Motion Lynch moved, McCulloch seconded , to continue the request to the Feb. 13th meeiing for a staff report. Motion carried unanimously. S. Amsden Hills III , The Preserve , request to preliminary plat 32 acres for single family , multi-iainily, and park uses ; and to rezone 16 acres from Rural to RI-- 13. 5 with variances for approximately 30 lots . A public hearing. The Planner informed the Commission Don Hess will present the project , there is no staff report toaate, and the Covmc.il is presently considering payment of cash park fee on past PUDs . Mr. Hess reviewed the s-,i tees soil conditions , vegetati on .& slopes as distributed to the corm ssi on in the appl i -at ion. He stated The Preserve is still delib- erating on how to develop- the out r ots and the deer corridor. Lynch inquired if the Anderson Lakes Parkway location had been resolved. Mr. Hess replied affivwtive. Lynch remarked that approximately 30% of the lots are under the 1.3,500 square foot size minimum . Sundstrom inquired hors the island in the cul -de-sac would be handled. Mr. Hess replied it would be deeded to the City and mainatoined by the HOA. Retterath asked if the City would be requiring the developer to remove diseased s Lr.n.w� of.-'-r +;.0:41 ftZ �+hr.!'��W04�-*7IWA T�h Al }gN/ftn 1'•Ltin� 181'� �'� '� kai nn rRRv't'mmPn4aa L Ct'a %A%ot .l•y 11! i 0 r �.Vf! r. M4.b r Ulf. l h 1 anr/ . replied fir . ed . ►. .+ y•_ •.� •- by the City Forester and Community Services Department. Motion Winch moved, Retterath seconded ,, to continue the public hearing to Feb. 13th and direct staff to prepare a report. Motion carried unanimously. f - 'approved i -Pi ad.n i �u�iii7 Sa i oil `i i riu Lib �:,- Jan. 23, 1.978 C. Minnesota Mini -Storage 2nd Addition , request by Bruce Hubbard to rezone From Rural and Highway Conmrci al to 1-2 Pars: 3.06 acres for individual storage warehouse space. The site is north of the pres-ont Minnesota Mini-Storage building at 6570 Flying Cloud Drive. Mr. Bruce Hubbard located the site for the Commission and stated he desires to expand the storage facility. HP .- ilpa n.1 an+i nnc �-A tirmc .^.07 A ti-. •-A--'II A r _ ,..a. .,..,. ....e. . w irwua %A t�ti. IIf]{ruI ICU along with a fence enclosure with a gate to be locked at 8:00 PM. Redpath asked how much. the garage spaces rent nut at. Mr~. Hubbard replied the prices start at $18 month ( 50 sq. ft. ) . Retterath asked how many garage spaces exist and how many are proposed in the 2nd Addition. Mr. Hubbard replied 260 units exist (40 ,OUc3 square feet ) and :34,000 square feet additional space is planned in the 2nd Addition. Sundstrom inquired !low many doors may be visible to the freeway. The Planner stated the staff would address the projec:t' s visibility in the staff report. Lynch asked the staff to also include in the staff report an overlay of surrounding land uses . Motion : Bearman moved, Retterath seconded, to continue the request to the Feb. 13th meeting and direct the staff to prepare a report. Motion carried unanimously. V1 . OLD BUSINESS 1. Lynch stated he would be willing to serve again on the Board of Appeals unless another Planning Commission member would like to serve. 2. Hazardous waste Dis usal Site Motion : Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, that the Planning Commission desires to go on record in opposition to the location of the Hazardous waste Disposal site in Eden Prairie. Motion carried unanimously. (Location reap distributed , ~nd discussion on Waste Site occurred in Joint Development/Planning Commission M-Inutes , Jan. 23, 1978, 7 :00 PM) V11 . NEW BOSINESS. none V111 . PLANNER' S REPORT :, The Planner distributed copies of tree Metro Council Housing Chapter. 2. The Planner distributed copies of the Metro Council Social Goals , IX. ADJOURNMENT - Re-up Ui. F40lied, lynch seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10 :35 PM. - Motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted , Jean Johnson