Planning Commission - 11/14/1977 A G E N D A
Planning Commission
Monday, November 14, 1977
7:30 PM, City Hall
COKKISSION NW..BBRS: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, Redpatr, Rettarath,
Lynch, McCulloch, Bearman
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, .Jim .Jensen, Jean Johnson
Approximate Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
Time
7:30 I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
7:35 II. MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 26, 1977 MEETING
7:40 III. MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman
B. Others
7:50 IV. REPORTS AND RECOtWNDATIONS
A. Crosstown Park, by Richard Anderson. Request to rezone from
Rurs.l to I-2 Park and preliminary plat 28 acres into 5 lots .
The site is located south of U.S. 169/212/Co. Rd. 18 interchange.
Consideration of Joint EAW-Crosstown Industrial Park by
Cardarelle and Crosstown Park by Anderson. A continued
public hearing.
8:30 B. Edenvale Industrial Park Sth Addition, by Edenvale Inc . ,
Reques-,� to replat 2.94 acres(zoneJ. I-2) and 5.04 acres ,
(zoned I-5) , from 2 lots into 4 lots with lot size and
setback variances . The Bite is located East of Corporate
Way, South of Purgatory Creek and North of Martin Drive.
A public hearing.
9:00 V. PETITIONS AND RE TESTS.
9:05 Vi. OLD BUSINESS
1: 15 VII . NEW BUSINESS
9:25 VIII . PIANNER'S REPORT
9:45 IX. ADJOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSiON
approved
Monday, November 14, 1977 7:30 PM City Hail
COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sunastran, Redpath , McCulloch , Lynch , Bearman
COMMISSION ABSENT: Schee, Retterath
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Jean Johnson
I. APPROVAL OF. AGENDA
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
II . MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 26, 1977 MEETING
P. 2 ,Motion 2, add vote : Motion carried unanimously. Bearman moved, Lynct. seconded,
to approve the minutes as corrected. Motion carried 3:0:2(McCulloch-Redpath)
II1. MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Sundstrom
1. un Strom annoi ced the Planning Commission would be giving Mr.
Putnam an official farewell at the next meeting.
2. Sundstrom announced a meeting on Hazardous Taste Sites was
being conducted this evening at the High School and inquired if
any civinission member was interested in attending.
The commission believed the staff would adequately present the
City' s position.
B. Others
T-7—lWarman requested the City Attorney submit a written clarifica-
tion on Judge Stone 's decision on a recent law suit and hew it
will impact the Guide Plan Update and the present zoning review
process.
Sundstrom suggested pe m aps Mr. Perbix can also attend a Planning
Commission meeting to discuss the Co;nmission' s concerns.
The planner agreed to ask Mr. Pe rbix to submit a written opinion
on Judge Stone 's decision.
IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Crosstown Park , by Richard Anderson. Request to rezone from Rural to
- - ---_---- I-Iff P rk and rel i mi na p ry plat 28 acres into 6 lots. The s#te is located
south of US 169/212 f Co.Rd. 18 interchange. Consideration of' Joint EAW
(Crosstown Industrial Nark by Cardarelle and Crosstown Park by Anderson) .
A continued public- nearing.
Mr. Bill Jacobson, representing Mr. Anderson , presented the project stating the
building locations are expected to remain as depicted except for lot I where
one 40,000 square foot building may be built instead of two 20,000 square
. foot buildings. He stated three office buildings are proposed around the
pond area,(lots 2.3.4.) , and they will attempt- to retain as many trees as
possible and minimize grading.
Sundstrom inquired if the platting of lot 7 into two sections creates any pro-
blems. The planner replied the plats of Carda relle and Anderson overlap, and
the Council did not act on the toning of the overlapping areas during the
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approved
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public hearing on the Cardareile rezoning request, but will be considerin
those areas when Anderson's rezoning request is heard.
Bearman inquired if the traffic projections in the EAW were bMscd upon the
Anderson project or the combined projects of ,Anderson and Cardarelle. The
planner replied the traffic estimates are based on the two projects , and if
the property were built to Zoning Ordinance capacity, the traffic volumes could
double. He stated he has concerns on the zoning of the office sites arowW
the pond to 1-2 Park which will a 1 l ow warehouse/office uses instead of
"pure" office.
The planner then informed the Commission the Watershed District has requested
further information on the storm water from the proponents and the City
Engineering Department has not yet had the opportunity to write a report, but
has communicated some of their concerns to the Planning Department.
Jacobson felt drainage from the project would go along Crosstown Circle,
under Flying Cloud Drive and then into the City . storm water system. He stated
they would be working with the Engineering Department and Watershed District.
Lynch expressed concern that the proponents had not submitted detailed water
drainage plan to the staff for review as water now could impact the existing
businesses across Flying Cloud Drive.
The planner stated the Planning Department is recommending approval of the zoning
® and platting requests cant•ingent upon the approval of the Engineering Departaamt
and Watershed District.
Sundstrom inquired if an alternative exists to zoning the office sites to I-2 Park .
The planner suggested they could be recormended to be zoned. to Office District.
Mr. Redaath felt the developer would not be acting in his best interest if uses
other than office were allowed on the 3 lots around the pond as they are ideal
office sites. Anderson stated it would not be economically feasible to develop
the s pond lots as anything other than Office.
Motion 1 : _
ed�path moved, Bearman seconded, to continue the item to the Nov. 28th meeting
and request the proponent to submit a drainage plan for City staff review.
Discussion:
-_ -- Vr.' Buchlo Windsor Properties , requested a 15 minute recess to allow the - - - --
proponents Lime to discuss the drainage plan in an attempt to molve the _
question so that the Commission may take favorable action.
Redpath and Bearman withdrew their motion and second.
Mot i un 2:
dpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to allow the proponents a 15 minute recess
and continue the public hearing to 8:45 PN1. Motion serried 4:1 with beat .ot:ng
nay.
Motion 3:
Redpat moved, lynch seconded, to recoinaend to the CaaMcil adoption of the Joint
EAW-Crosstam Industrial Paris/Crosstown Park. Motion carried wmimml-y.
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B. Edenvale Industrial Park 5th Addition , by Edenvale Inc. , rqquest to replat
2.94 acres .!oned I-2 Park and 3.04 acres ,(zoned I-5 Park) , from 2 lots
into 4 lots with lot size and setback variances. The site is located East
of Corporate Way and North of Martin Drive. A public hearing.
Vie-. Fei.eVSOII, EdeflVd le inc. , outlined the location of the !ots & the 14SP ease-
ment running east-west. He stated he concurs with the staff report and that
he feels these lots will market as successful as the cthet- small industrial
lots .
Bearman inquired if two buildings would be feasible on the one ' lot bisected by
the ASP easement. Peterson felt the lots could accommodate a 10 ,000 and
20,000 square foot building with driveways occupying the easement.
The planner reviewed the staff report of Nov. 3, 1977 and the suggested
variances.
Mr. Peterson suggested the City' s Guide Plan Update and future revised ordinances
address the need for smaller industrial lots than presently exist in Ord. 135.
Motion 1:
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to close the public hearing on Edenvale
Industrial Park 5th Addition. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 2:
Redpath moved, 'McCulloch seconded , to recommend to the Council approval of
the preliminary plat of Edenvale Industrial Park 5th Addition dated Oct. 19 , 1977,
of the 5.98 acres into 4 lots contingent upon the staff report dated Nov. 3, 1977
with lot size variance and the following setback variances :
front yard 30' , side yard 10' , corner lot(both frontages) 30' ;
and that the building locations on lots 3 and 4 be worked out with the staff prior
to permit issuance. Motion carried unanimously.
8:45 PM, Crosstown Industrial Park _, continued public hearing.
Mr. Jacobson presented a skematic drainage plan that would collect water nn-site
by use of a sedimentation pond on lot 2 in order to filter water prior to
going into the pond, thereby not requiring any water flowage across Flying
Cloud Drive.
Lynch felt the drainage plan would be feasible if acceptable to the Engineering
Department. He suggested another alternative may be use of the Co. Rd. 18 system.
Motion 4:
. Redpath moved, Bearman seconded, to close the public hearing on the Crosstown
Park project, Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 5:
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to recommend to the Council approval of the
Crosstown Park rezoning from Rural to I-2 Park as per the staff report of Nov. 3,
?977. Motion carried 4:1 with Bear man voting nay.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -4- November 14 , 1977
Motion 6 :
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded , to recommend to the Council approval of the
preliminary plat subject to the site plan dated Nov. 6 , 1977 showing building
l oca'i offs ithu Luverayes , ana contingent on the sta tt report dated Nov. 3, 1977
with storm water drainage plans as presented this evening, 11-14-77 , for the
runoff water to be held on the north side of Flying Cloud Drive , or an alternate
drainage plan meeting the intent of the presented plan so that storm water
does not impact or burden adjacent properties . Motion carried 4: 1 with
Bearman voting nay.
V . PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. none
VI . OLD BUSINESS. none
VII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Lynch asked the staff what process is .followed regarding abandoned wells .
The planner stated he would investigate and report back.
VIII . PLANNER'S REPORT
A. The planner informed the Commission the staff would be revising and
streamlining the development procedures and investigating the possibility
of a joint engineering/planning report. The commission supported the
ideas.
B. Community Devel2nw-nt Block Grant , 1978
The planner informed the commission the city may receive approximately
$70 ,000 for the 19i8 year funding, and asked members to formulate some
suggestions by the next meeting.
C. Wolf Property Acquisition by MAC
The planner reported MAC is still irterested in acquiring the Wolf Property
• and allowing the City to use it for recreational purposes. He asked if
the Commission desired making a recommendation to the r.ouncil regarding
such acquisition and use.
Motion :
Redpath moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend to the City Council
support of MAC' s acquisition of the Wolf Property and its use for
recreation/open space. Motion carried unanimously.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Lynch moved, Redpath seconded, to adjourn at 9:25 Pik. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean Johnson