Planning Commission - 07/25/1977 AGENDA.
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, July 25, 1977
7:30 PM City Nall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance - -- Roll Call
COMMISSION N MSERS: Qairman Sundstrom, Schee, Redpath, Lynch, Bearman,
McCulloch, Retterath
STAFF MEMBERS: Dick Putnam, Jim Jansen, Jean Johnson
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. APPROVAL- OF THE MINUTES OF JULY 119, 1977
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
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A. Chairman
B. Others
IV. REPORTS AND RECL"ENDATIONS
A. Round Lake Estates, by Eliason Builders, request tj preliminary plat
37 lots for single family development. The site is zoned R1-13.5 and
located north of '4i S and East of Heritage Road. A continued public
hearing.
B. Garrison Forest 2nd Addition, The Preserve, request to rezone from
Rural to R1-13.Sand preliminary plat 43 lots on approximately 2S acres.
The site is :rzated West of Co. Rd. 18 and South of Amsden Road. A
continued public hearing.
C. Amsd n Hills 2nd Addition, The Preserve, request to rezone from Rural
to R' -13.5 and preliminary plat approval for 33 lots on approximately
IS acres . The site is located West of proposed Garrison Forest 2nd
Addition and south of Amsden Road , A continued public hearing.
Y. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Vale hoods 1st and 2nd Additions, by Dirlam Properties, request to
preliminary plat approximately SO acres into single family and double
Iots and to rezone the property from RI-22 and I-General to RI-13.S
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the Cb%-'K Railroad A public hearing.
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Monday, July 2S, 1977 MO Pbt City Hall
COW-4ISSION PRESENT: Chairman Sundstrom, Schee, Lynch, Redpath, McCulloch
COMMISSION ABSENT: Retterath , Bearman
STAFF PFESfiti"f: Dick Putnam, Jean Johnson
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Schee moved, Redpath seconded, to delete the items of OLD BUSINESS, NEW
BUSINESS AND PLANNER'S REPGRT as Mr. Pu::nam was up late the
. night before for the birth of his first baby. Motion carried unanimously.
li. APPROVAL OF THE JULY 11, 1977 MINITTES
P. 4,Motion 4: should read-Motion carried 4: 1 with Bearman voting nay
because of 32% of the lots being under 13,500 square feet .
Motion S : should read-
Redpath moved, Retterath seconded, to recommend approval of the Maple Leaf
Acres Third Addition preliminary plat based on the 7/6/77 plan, as per
the staff report dated June 9, 1977 with lot size variances only, hating
the specific commercial use retuned at a later date for review. 'Motion
was defeated with 2 ayes and 3 nays (Bearman, Sundstrom and Retterath) .
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Redpath moved, Lynch seconded, to approve the minutes as written and corrected.
Motion carried 3:0:2 with Schee and McCulloch abstaining.
III. 14EMEERS REl ORTS
A. Chairman. Sundstrom-none
B. Others-none
IV. REPORTS AND RECO14TNDATIONS
A. Round Lake Estates 2nd Addition, by El.iason Builders . request to preliminary
plat 37 lots for single family development . The site is zoned R1-13. 5 and
located north of TH S and East of Heritage Road. A continued public hearing.
The planner referred the Comission to the staff report dated July 21 , 1977 and
- - --- -the plat information supplied by the ,proponent. He reviewed the previous con-
cerns of residents as : traffic volumes , safety and c-Arculation. He then out-
lined alternate access of a north/south connection to west 72nd Street , or an
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stated the City Engineer has estimated the eastern cunnectin:i to Luther Way to
cost approximately $22,000(involving purchasing or condemning 1 .5 acres of
Dr. Savaryn' s property) .
Lynch belJvved the Luther way residents would raise objections to such a road
connection.
The planner stated the extension of Luther flay to the west has always been
in City plans and shown in the plat of Kirk Meadows.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -2- July 2S, 1977
Redpath suggested east bound traffic use Luther Way and returning west bound
traffic would travel. on TH S and make a right-in at the Heritage Park and Round
Lake Estates entrance.
Mr. Geason, 7621 Atherton Way , and Mr. Hoag, 7660 Heritage Road, felt Redpath's
suggestion was a possitive solution to the traffic problem.
Mr. Longman , 172350 Park Circle, stated when he purchased his home hp was told an
alternate access would be constructed to Luther Way.
Mr. Mills : 7640 Atherton Way, suggested no new homes be constructed until the
alternate access is constructed.
Lynch inquired how many lots in the project would be under 13,S00 square feet .
Mr. Berg, Consulting Engineers, stated 8 lots are less than 13,S00 , 2 of which
are between 13,000-13,500 square feet.
The planner stated the City Engineer and he are recommending that the project be
approved and that the City proceed with an alternate road connection.
Motion 1 :
Redpath moved, Lynch seconded, to close the public hearing on the Round Lake
Estates 2nd Addition. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 2 :
Redpath moved, Lynch seconded, to recommend to the City Cmur_cil approval of the
pre?imi,:diy plat of Round Lake Estates 2nd Addition for 37 lots by Eliason
Builders based upon the following:
1. A concrete trail be built along Woodview Lane to channel bicyclists
and pedestrians to and from Round Lake Park. A trail should also
be built between lots 6 ,7&8 of wcodchips or limestone to allow a
southern access to the northern park area.
2. The developer will nonstruct a totlot in the open space area seeking
input from the future homeowners as to where and type.
3. Lot S , Block2, frontage to be increased to 45 feet .
4. Grading occur in a sensitive manner Especially in the north wooded
areas to preserve the natural integrity of the site.
S. Round Lake Parkway be constructed in the near future to give addi-
tional point3 of access to the project.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 3:
Schee moved, Redpath seconded, to recommend the City Council proceed quickly
with the construction of a road from Heritage and Round Lake Additions to
Co, Rd. 4 j�rnfn�►�1.1� !► Y'Qud�: ::.:�::ii way. 'Nation "cried 4 : 1 (Lynch voted nay)
Motion 4 :
Schee moved, Redpath seconded, to recommend to the City Council that Rouna Lake
Parkway be constructed quickly to give additional access to this project and
others. Motion carried unanimously.
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B. Garrison Forest 2nd Addition, The Preserve, request to rezone from Rural to
R1-13.S and preliminary plat 43 lots on approximately 25 acres. The site is
located west oA Co, Rd. 18 and South of Amsden Road, A, continued public
hearing.
C. Ansden Hills 2^d .'Addition, The Preserve, request to rezoaie from Rural to
RI-13,5 and preliminary plat approval for 33 lots on approximately 1S ages.
The site is located Rest of proposed Garrison Forest. 2nd Addition and south
• of Amsden Road. A continued public hearing.
The planner reported that the staff is recommending the City not give up any
land for parkway construction that has been acquired for• nark purposes. He felt
if the City had intended the park property to be used for road purposes it urvmld
have been i-ncluded in the grant submissions.
Mr. Hess, The Preserve, stated they contend that 50:50 splits are the common
practice in road construction and in this case The Preserve is only asking the
City commit to 1/3 .
Mr. Hess then showed various design options for the 7 acre parcel near Co. Rd. 1$
(commercial ,residential, multiple or mixed uses) ,stating they would prefer the
land use option be left open at this time.
Lynch asked how many lots were under 13,S00 square feet. Mr. Hess replied he
was unsure.
Chairman Sundstrom asked if any audience members had questions or couen►ts.
Alone were raised.
McCulloch felt other access options should be explored and land Acquired through
grants should not be given up for the benefit of a developer.
Hess believed The Preserve is not the sole benefiter , but the City and surrour_ding
cormunities would benefit.
Motion 1 :
Redpath moved, Schee seconded, that the existing Amsd n Road he the north or
western lane of the :nderson Lakes Parkway and that right-of-war for the
additinhal two lanes be dedicated from the property south of existing Amsden Road.
Nation carried unanimously.
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2nd Addition allowing the developer to submit revised plans Notion carried
Vn an imous ly.
Mot i or 3 :
e ath moved., Schee seconded, to close the publi hearing on hnden Hills 2nd a
Addition. Notion carried unanimously. .
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Mot i on 4 :
Redpath moved, Schee seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
rezoning request from Rural to RI-13.5 for 33 lots on approximately 15 acres for
Aesden Hills 2nd Addition.
Discussion -
Lynch inquired how many lots are below 13,500 square feet. The planner estimated
40-5010. Mr. Hess agreed .
Vote: Motion carried 4 : 1 with McCulloch voting nay.
!►dot i on 5 :
Redpath moved, Schee seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of a
modified preliminary plat for Amsden Hills 2nd Addition recognizing the road
alignment change (affecting Lot 16) due to the road right-of-way. Motion carried
4:1 with McCulloch voting nay.
V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Vale Woods lst and 2nd Additions, by Dirlarr. Properties , request to prelim-
inary plat approximately 50 acres into single family and double lots and
to rezone the property from Rl-22 and I-General to 111-13.5 aad RM 6.5 .
The site is located south of Valley View Road and Vest of C & NW RR.
A pub!;--- hearing.
Mr. Peterson stated the project is a joint venture between Dirlam Properties and
himself. The project is a single family and multiple mix on approximately 55 acres,
20 acres of which will be open space. He stated no lots will require variances
and the project is consistent with tre Guide Plan and the 4;5 Study. lie stated
they would like to have some credit against the cash in lieu of land hascd on the
land they will dedicate to the city as open space and will be negoitating with
the staff. He added that a strong demand exists for double units in Eden Prairie
and he believes this project will be very desirable and compatible with adjacent
uses.
Schee expressed concern about the construction traffic which will be using Valley
View Road. Peterson replied the c:onstiucti on traffic will have to use Valley
View Road but the road is already in need of repair.
Bob McDonald , Vborehouse-McDcrald Real Estate, stated he believes the land is more
appropriate for residential development than industrial and a strong market exists
for double units.
Lynch noted the 7/22/77 letter from Voas's and directed the Secretary to record
the letter in the minutes and to file it. (letter att-ached )
Schee asked when, the 2nd Addition would be started. Peterson stated they hope to
grade this year and begin improvements next year on the 2nd addition.
Lynch asked if lot 16, Westgate Addition, dedication for road purposes had been
approved. The planner replied it has not yet been approved by the Council as
the item was pulled from the agenda by the proponent .
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Planning Commission Minutes -5- July 25, 1977
Sundstrom inquired if the lots abut the railroad. Peterson replied aff-irmative
stating the lot depths are about 175 feet.
Motion 1 :
Lynch moved, Schee seconded, to closer the public hearing on the Vale Woods
1st F, 2nd Addition preliminary plats. Motion carried unanimously.
Mo' on 2 :
Lynch moved, Schee seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
rezoning from I-Gen and R1-22 to R1-13.5 and RM 6. 5 for Vale Woods 1st & 2nd
as per the staff report dated 7/14/77. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion 3 •
Lynch moved, Schee seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
preliminary- plats of Vale Woods 1st & 2nd Additions per the staff report dated
7/14/77 , contingent upon the road connection through lot 16 , Westgate:
Addition, to Ontai•:o Boulevard. Motion carried unanimously.
_ ' . h congratulated the proponents or, a - project well planned and needing
3rlances. The other Commission members concurred.
B. ;` ntex Homes, Signage plan request for home sales .
Ile plann—:er introduced Mr. Tim Eller, Vice-President of Centex Homes . stating the
corporation has purchased a number of lots from Dietrich in the Edenv*ale South
PUD to be marketed under the name of Ridgewood and are requesting approval of
a temporary signage plan for directing and identifying them housing and model
area. The planner stated the staff is recommending approval of the signage plan-
Mr. Eller informed the commission Centex Homes is a subsidiary of Centex Corporation
and have extensive home building experience. He stated they have studied Minnesota
for sales and determined that Eden Prairie would be a very desirable area to work in.
Schee inquired if the alert sign requested could be smaller to conform to the
ordinance aad still be readable. Mr. Eller stated it may be possible .
Motion :
Redpath moved, Schee seconded, to approve the signage program by Centex Homes
as follows :
1. An "alert" sign along US 169, not to exceed 100 square feet , to
alert motorists going south of the project ' s location.
2. The project sign located adjacent to the bake Eden sign, intersection
of East/West Parkway and US 169 be approved no larger than 8x12 feet.
3. A 4x10 foot project sign located as submitted identifying project and
model sales area.
VI. OLD BUSINESS, deleted
VII. NEW BUSINESS, deleted
OVIII. PLANNER'S REPORT, deleted
IX. ADJOURNMENT ir
Redpath moved, McCulloch seconded, to adjourn at 10 :OS PM. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson
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