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Planning Commission - 03/28/1977 i A G E N D A Planning Commission Monday, March 28, 1977 7:30 PM City Hall Invocation -- Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Sorensen , Schee, Bearman, Sundstrom, Lynch, Fosnocht, Pauly STAFF MEMBERS: Dick Putnam, Jean Johnson I. REORGANIZATION II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF THE MARCH 14, 1977 MEETING IV. REPORTS AND RECUWENDATIONS A. Prairie East Third Addition, by Hustads, request to preliminary plat and rezone 50 acres from Rural to RM 6. 5 for approximately 80 single family lots . The site is located west of Co. Rd. 18, south of Prairie East 1st and 2nd Additions. A continued public hearing. B. Gunnar Electric Rezoning, request to rezone 2.3 acres at 12975 Pioneer Trail frog Rural to I-2 Park. C. Bluffs East/West, by Hustads, request fo:• °UD Concept approval on 400 acres of single family, multiple and commercial uses, PUD Develop- ment Stage approval, preliminary plat and rezoning from Rural to R] -13.5 for t:.e western 200 acres of the PUD. The PUD .is located South of Co. Rd. 1 between Co. Rd. IS and Homeward Hills Road. A public hearing. V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS A. Pillsbury Company Rezoning, request to `ezore 32 acres fros Rural to I-5 Park for the construction of Pillsbury's Research and Development Facility. The site is located on 228 acres south of W. 78th Et-Peet, East of the Eden Prairie Shopping Center, west of upper Paderson Lakes and north of Northmark and Westwinds Additions. B. Edenvale 14th Addition, by Edenvale Inc. , request for Pt]D Development Stage approval for 25 acres of land and first phase approval, preliminary plat and rezoning from Rural to RM 6. 5 for 30 lots. The 14th Addition is located directly north of Edenvale Boulevard and west of Edenvale llth Addition. Public Hearing to be held April 11, 1977 . VI. OLD BUSINESS VII . NEW BUSINESS Vi l I. PLANER'S REPORT IX. AQTOUR IT —►+soi►ao< <_�.r7".�."1:•+eii�i':..t'...Cd..�ii:..IS'��c�"3^�' �.'�`.�. v .'.,� .y, i �..- -- �`V b PRELIMINARY AGENDA Planning Commission Jr L.7 7:30 PM , City Hall I. REORGANIZATION II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF THE MARCH 14, 1977 MEE'rING IV. MEMBERS REPORTS V. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. Prairie East Third Addition, continued public hearing. B. Gunnar Electric- rezoning at 12975 Pioneer Trail. C. Bluffs East/West , sf development, public hearing. VI. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS A. Pillsbury Corporation, rezoning of 228 acre in The Preserve to I-S Industrial Park for a research center. S. Edenvale 14th Addition, pros -4-ration. VII. OLD BUSINESS VIII. NEW BUSINESS IX. PLANNER' S REPORT X. ADJOURNMENT s - ..�- ..0*.7'A^ •' 1ryK - . . •NI wll► .y'�•.i -r+rr�l► n. _ w.. .�..� . • MIN' iTES EDEN PRAIRIE �i.4t%N1Nc= approved Munclay, March 28, 1977 7 :30 PM City Hall COMMISSION PRESENT: Chairman. Sorensen , Z--hee, Sunds t ro:n, Lynch , Fcsnocht , Pauly. CONMI SS I ON ABSENT. Bearman STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnam, Jean Johnson I. REORGANIZATION' Schee suggested the commission elect new officers as some presently may not be members. She then nominated Airs. Pauly for the chairmanship. Sorensen asked if any members in the audience had objections to the commission members taking action on proposals this evening given that 3 of the individuals may not be members. No objections were raised. Pauly suggested the Planning Conmission continue the item of reorg-:ization ui,ti ? after new appointments are made. Lynch believed reorgani --at i on should be postponed until after new appointments are made. W. t_i on . Iynch moved , Fosnocht seconded, to continue the item of reorganization until new appointments are made- . The notion. carried 3 :0 :3 with Schee, borensen and Sundstrom abstaining. Motion : Lynch moved, Fosnocht seconded, to have Sorensen continue as Chairman of the Planning Con nission . Discussion : _ Sorensen suggested a continuing member be appointed as chairman. Vote: Motion failed 3 :3 with Fosnocht , Pauly and Lynch voting aye. Motion : Schee moved, Sundstrom seconded, to elect Lynch as chairman "lotion carried S:O: I with Lynch abstaining. 11 . APPRM L OF At;FNDA Forn�cht nov�d, Pauly seconded, to apirove the agenda a---) siihmitted. !$otion ta-ri ed. f 1 1 . '�!i•w! r �:r i:t,: -:�r.%rt s r , i y i , 'ic:F f l tirl P. l , 11 i . ,vf,t ion : shhould read- reorgani zatir�n gh.nuld be postponed P. 2,4t s}irnild i-i�,,d-SUndstrom inu>> i , d if the snacc between the :m)ltipla and :Inubles Vac sufficie^* anJ questioned if the dist,nce could be widened . _ Mr. re*er-ton stated ,the SiO feet between the unOis is sufficient . .t vn: S::r,d�trr noved, Fo,er.ocht seconded to approve the minutes as cc►rrectc►d . %1k)t ic,n carried 3:01 3 with Sorensen, Pauly and Lynch abstaining. I , approved IPlanning Commission Minutes -2- March 28, 197 IV. REPORTS AND RECOHMENDATION'S A. Prairie East Third Addition, by Hustads, request to preliminary plat and rezone 50 acres from Rural to R1 -13. 5 for approximately 80 single family lots. The site is located west of Co. Rd. 181, south of Prairie East ist and 2nd Additions. A continued public hearing. Mr. Robert Engtrom, En t-Cm ss:►ciates , cllglJieCr fur project, stated based upon the commission' s comments from the previous meeting, Hustads and he revised the plat to addrts_; the road concerns and the parkland location has been iden- tified. tie informed the commission that only 11 , instead of the previous 19, lots now front on Nottingham Drive and the plat still contains 85 lots. Pauly inquired if all lots meet the 13. 5 lot size requirement . Engstrom replied the average lot size is 13. 8 . Ostenson said he was unsure of the exact number of lots below 13.S. Sorensen inquired if the staff still believes additional area r? ay :,pace is needed as was discussed in the staff report . The planner replied t:ie Park, Recreation and Natural Resotrc .s Commission did review the park location and did not suggest any additional . Sorensen believed small play areas are important in neighborhoods as small children are not allowed to travel the distance necessary to reach larger parks . Mr. Nally Hustad felt if .small totlots, play areas, etc . , are required ther. homeowner associations would be required and they do not feel associations should be forced upon buyers Mrs. Hustad stated many people do not like to buy into homeowner associations and the money market does not favor homeowner associations . Motion 1 : Sundstrom moved, Schee seconded, to continue the item unti 3 the Apr i 1 ` S. , 1977 meeting when a full commission >,ould be present . Discussion : Pauly believed the members present could make recomme-3 ations on projects . Vote : Motion_ failed 1 : 2 :3 (Sandstrom-aye) (Pauly & Lynch-nay) (Schee, Fosnocht and Sorensen-abstained) Pauly stated she still has concerns relative to the high percentage of lots below 13. 5 . Motion 2 : Pauly moved, Fosnocht seconded,to close the public hearing on the Prairie East '. I.-.- Aria„A~ YA iA fIAetaiy Nief. . YkAlun carried 3 :0 :3 (. undstrom, Sorensen and :Schee abstained) Motion 3 : Pauly moved, Schee seconded, to forward the rrairie East Third Addition to the City Council without a positive or negative recommendation from the commission but to convey their concerns that the following conditions have not been adequately solved: ? . 30% or more of the lots do not meet the 13 . 5 size. 2 . Question of Nottingham Drive's classification as a collector and the poGsibility of higher volumes (800 to 1500) and subsequent problems . 3 . The lack of definition of local play areas and routes to park . Motion carried 4 :0: 2 with Sorensen and Sundstrom abstaining. u II 66. - approved Planning Commission Minutes -3- March 28, 1977 B. Gunnar Electric Rezoning, request to rezone 2.3 acres at 12975 Pioneer Trail from Rural to I-2 Park. The planner referred the ^ommission to the staff report previously submitted and stated the staff believes the industrial use is appropriate based upon the Uses to the west , proximity to airport runway noise & future industrial develop- Tent- across Co, Rd. I . The planner informed the commission Mr. Gunnarson is out of town but Mr.Hzndrickson is here to represent Mr. Gunnarson. Lynch expressed concern that the integrity of single family be protected against uses as commercial and industrial . The planner stated, in his opinion , he does not believe single family uses will be proposed in this area due to the airport noise and the adjacent industrial . Lynch questioned if the request can be handled any easier than previous requests as the road location has not been resolved and .utilities are not immediately available. Sorensen asked Mr. Hustad how long it might be before the area across Co. Rd. 1 froth the Gunnar site is developed with utilities. Mr. Hustad rerlied 1-3 years. Sorensen Lelieved a holding tank is not a desirable solution to the utility problem. The planner believed the holding tank is bitter than a septic tank and that presently Gunnar Electric on Co. Rd. 4 is a nonconforming use and is attempting to relocate. The planner stated Muter and sewer connection is not specifically required under the ordinance but has seemed to be city policy. Mr. Schaitberger stated he is not opposed to industrial development but a sufficient buffer should exist between single family and industrial , a buffer of approximately 200 .feet not earth berms and plantings. He expressed his op►nioli that the conditions of Resolution. 345 , previously denying development , have not been met and the city does have the basis for denying Gunnar' s request at this time. Sundstrom believed that the intent of the resolution are still in effect as not all conditions have been adequately resolved. Motion Fosroch t moved, Pauly seconded, to recommend the Gunnar request for rezoning from Rural to I-2 Park on L 2, B 1 , M & K Addition, parcel 8050, be denied as previous concerns stated in Resolution 34S have not been met Motion carried 3 :0:3 with Sorensen , Schee and 5undstrom abstaining. C. Bluffs East/West , by F*ic4ad= , fcr 1'UD Coiicept approval on 400 acres of amily, multiple and commercial uses, PUD Uevelopment Stage approval , preliminary plat and rezoning frog, Rural to P1 -13. 5 for the uesterm 200 acres of the PUD. The PUD is located south - of Co. ►' : I between Co. Rd. 18 and Homeward Hills Road. A public hearing. The planner referred- the commission to the Environmental assessment Worksheet , (EAN) and the Environmental Review Process outline which delegates the assess- ment to local governments. The planner stated if the city approves the PUD the EAk would be forwar4ed to agencies for further review and published in the EQC Monitor. After 30 days from publication, the EAX stands as final and objections- to the EAW can be raised! and filed ..V,ithin those 30 days . -- k .4. .- CS{,.\�Y�-^ ...a -�.,:emirs 4.p...�.� J!"'K`.'F _*'. P• •4 + .r ..•.i?'�.^'V7Y"Sh=.<'3;i f ' r'1L ., approved Planning Commission Minutes -4- March 28, 1977 l Bluffs East/West Continued Mr. Wally Hustad outlined the boundary of the PUD and stated utilities are available for the project and the market demand exists . lie stated homes wo:.ld be higher income houses, starting between 560,000- 70,000, and they are suggesting private ownership unti 1 t h e.. city can imple - ment s preservation program. tie stated they are ready to develop this sururier if approvals are given and the development will only encompass 120 of the 200 acres. Seventy acres ( 2 vista locations 1 , are identified and suggested to be purchased by the city. The project would contain approximately 250 lots . Lynch inquired if the $60, 000-70,000 costs would include the price of the lot . Mr. Hustad replied affirmative. Sundstrom still did not feel assurances exist that the public l:..0 could survive the private development surrounding it . Sundstro,% t',len asked if any recreational areas are planned . Hustad replied negative. The planner stated the staff todate has no final determination on appropriate uses near or in the creek valley. Ms. Robert Engstrom, Engstrom & Associates, did not feel the fragile nature of the creek would be suitable for trails if it is to retain its character. Pauly asked if a price nix is necessary . Mr. °'ally Hustad replied it :.ould be unfeasi3ble to develop the entire area as higher income hones. Pauly, referring to the EAW question about ar:haeological sites, asked if any indian mound sites would be encountered . Mr. Hustad believed the Lndiam mounds are located primarily along the river bluff. Sorensen asked the staff how much money is involved with the acquisition as shown in the Hustad plan. The planner felt the 70 acres to be purchased may be assessed in value as if it were developable property. Sorens^n questioned t;,c advisability of t#t.%-; variance request an such a large development of 5' on garage side , setbaiks not to include overhangs or f i rep i aces . Mr. Hustad stated they are requesting the variance as the need does arise in a few circumstances. _ . Sundstrom inquired if nature specialists would be available to answer questions on the compatibility.of private and public uses . The planner hot ed to have 9palified specialists at the next meeting. Gordon Campbell ,9901 Riverview Road . di;approved of the ntmber of small lots and stated he would prefer larger lots. _ Helen Fowler, 1031S Riverview Road, believed more trails in the area w.Wld cause more tre-aible, the increase of people near and in the creek valley would increase the danger of fires which are very difficult to fight in the creek valley, and suggested the land be developed in larger lots. Fred Ekrem, 9S4F Bluff Rosa, inquired if the Bluffs East wo'nld have city sewer. Mr. Hustad replied affirmative but may be 3-S ve6rs off as lift stations are irequ i red. F approved Pla;%.ing CI-7rmission Minutes March 28, 1977 Bluffs E1W, cont . Mot i on Fo:nocht moved, Pauly seconded, to continue the public ►,earing to the April A& Zlc: tlj:g ail" rCILC; 'Lv Stahl - Ul d FePUrL . N:uLlon harried 3 :0 :3 ( Schee, Sorensen and Sundstrom abstained ) . V. Ptl'ITIONS NND REQUESTS A. Pillsbury Company Rezoning, request to rezore 26 acres from Rural to I-S Park for the construction of Pillsbury' s Research ani Development Facility. The site is located on 228 acres south of W. *18th Street , east of the Eden Prairi% Shopping Center, ,�,est of upper Anderson Lakes and north of Northmark and 4stvinds Additions . Mr. Wal%er, Pillsbury Co. , presented the models and plans to the commission and audience and stated the architect for the.project was selected based upon their excellent record and architectural awards for sensitive handling of unique sites. Mr. Jerry Sincoff, Hellm;th,0;)ata&Kassabaum , Inc . ,Arch . , said Pillsbury in selecting their. as architects directed them to pay strict attention to the quality of the site He stated the Research and Development Facility only covers a small portion of the site, and the buildings, parking and roads cover less than 80 of the total acreage. He added that the proposed building is located where` it is believed the least physical impact will occur on vegetation , the lake, watershed and other environmental aspects of the ar-ca. Phase I of building will be 465 ,0O0 gross square feet . Colors, textures and materials will be sympathetic to the natural surroundings and the bronze toned glass will mute night lighting effects . Pauly inquired how close the parking lot is in relation to the Northmark Addition . Mr. Sincoff replied the parking lot is 65-90 feet away and will be bermed and planted in addition to plantings within the lot . Lynch asked if the proposed berm would preclude Northmark ' s view of the 'lake. Mr. Sincoff responded affirmative. Sorensen asked if Pillsbury is willing to work with adjacent homeowners when developing the berm and plantings. Mr. Sincoff replied affirmative. Lynch asked if the 8% coverage referred to included all buildings or just the first phase. Mr. Sincoff replied the first phase . Lynch then asked if the parking lot shown would serve Lhe entire development or just the first phase. Mr. Sincoff replied the parking lot shown is for the first phase an.. additional buildings may utilize a parking structure. Liz Fundingsland, 10765 Northmark Drive, did not feel the plan is sympathetic to the area or residents and asked boy; the parking structure would be screened. e P.T) roved 77 ling Commission 'Minutes -6- ';arch 28 , 191 Kinsella, 10750 Fieldcrest , spol.esman for the Field-rest 'homeowners , stated v%hen he and others moved -in they were infoimed the area to their north .:oild be medium density housing not a large scale industrial development !!C: �tatc%! die UlbWrbed about tne .1 car parking lot only 65 feet away and do not feel a berm in their bacl.yards is a suitable solution . lie added that construction noise, traffic, etc. , during the next few years with a development of this sl-zc would also be disturbing to the single family residents. He stated the residents do welcome Pillsbury , but believe the development could be situated somewhere e'- se on the 228 acres and half of the acreage should be parkland . Sorert�en staved concept plans :approved are subj ---c-L to change an" this site is also included in the N.Major Center area PUD. Sorensen, referring to brochure material estimating 100 of traffic using W. 718th Street , felt some other alternative should be possible as W. 73th Street may be closed. Sorensen asked if Pillsbury has concept plans for the remaining acreage. Mr. Walker replied not at this time. Sorensen then asked for thelineal length of Phase I & II buildIrg. Mr. Sincoff estimated 501 feet. Mr. Burn, e ster, 10898 Hyland Terrace, objected to the parking lot being so close to the single family and the buildings blocking vie�-.Is- of the lake. .1 Mr. Join Nelson, 9051 High Point Circle, (not speaking for Preserve HIOA) stated the Pillsbury plan was presented to The Preserve Executive Council and received 10010 support excepting the parking lot location. lie felt Pillsbury is well received by the majority of Preserve residents and believed the Pillsbury buildings will obscure less lake view from Northmark than 2-3 story multiple family if built . Bill Pelton, -presently building a home in Northmark, stated Ban Con told him be would not see Aie Pillsbury building and feels the project should be mo'.-ed to an altein ate site in the 228 acres . Mike Sankey, 10745 Fieldcrest., -stated homec%ner' s in The Preserve presently have less than 30% of the voting power and feels the residents along Fieldcrest should have greater say in this matter. Ken lJollanquist, 10865 Hyland Terrace, felt Pillsbury has a good plan, but the parking lot should be moved, perhaps to the side of the building. George Bently, Jr. , 10800 Fieldcrest , stated the development is directly behind his home and although the buildings are aesthetically pleasing the parking lot is extremely detrimental to the single family lifestyle. The planner stated according to ordinance the parking lot would have to be screened from the single family. Pl :i-ring ro7arission Minutes -7- 'March 28, 1977 - - Schee excused from muting -- Mr. Nelson asked how soon the second building would be constructed . Mr. Sincoff estimated 5- 10 years later. %,uu:,cli uiu Suggest the aevelopment use the northern road only and redesign the parking lot for the first phase to include only 1/3 of the parking strips shown . Mr. Moore, 10735 Fieldcrest, expressed disapproval of the project ' s location and believed the steam produced by the large building would be brought by the prewailing winds over Northmark. Mr . Sincoff stated they are willing to work with the residents on some proper !-olution for a buffer. Mr. Walker suggested they work with a Northmark spokesman and develop a plan to be presented to the residents as it is difficult to work with a large number. Sorensen suggested the c*L-►:y staff assist in arranging meetings between the residents and developer. Motion : Patily moved, Fusnocht seconded , to continue the item to the April llth meeting and refer to staff for a report . Motion carried 4 :0: 1 , Sorensen, abstained. -- Fosnoclit excused from meeting - - B. Edenvale 14-�h Addition , by Edenvale Inc. , request for PUD Development Stage approval for 25 acres of land and first phase approval , preliminary plat and rezoning from Rixral io RM 6. 5 for 30 lots . The 14th Addition is to^ated directly north of Edenvale Boulevard and west of Edenvale llth Addition. Publsc hearing to be held April 11 , 1977 . Peterson presented the single family subdivision The plat consists of minimum 60 ' frontage, average across pad of 70 ' , and passible connection of the north/south street across the railroad to Kurtz Lane. He stated the homes would be moderately priced .:raid they are requesting RM 6.5 zoning instead of R1-13.5 because some lots are below the 13.5 size. Motion : Pauly moved, Sundstrom seconded, to continue the item to the April llth meeting and refer to staff for a report . Motion carried 3 :0: 1 , Sorensen abstained. 1i I . OLD BUSINESS Sorensen asked if an opinion on the Planning Commission members status had been received from the city attorney. The planner replied ;negative. E VII . NEW BUSINESS VIII , PLANNER'S REPORT The planner informed the con-nission the council has called a special meeting tomorrow evening to discuss the Windslope project. I X. ADJ OURVMENT Sundstrom moved, Pauly seconded, to adjourn at 12: 10 AM. Motion carried with Sorensen abstaining. Respectfully submitted, Jean Johnson