Planning Commission - 10/14/1976 i
PRELIMINARY AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Thursday, October 14 , 1976
7 : 30 PM, City Hall
=s COMMISSION MEMBERS : Chairman Don Sorenson , Norma Schee , Richard
Lynch , William Bearman , Rod SundbLuviu ,
Herb Fosnocht , Sidney Pauly
Invocation - - - Pledge of Allegiance - - - Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II . MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 27 , 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Don Sorenson
B . Council Representative Sidney Pauly
C . Other members
IV , REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. 0 us II Rauenhorst Corporation , phase I construction
of office park. in the Northwest quadrant of the* Co . Rd .
18 and Co . Rd . 62 interchange . Rauenhorst is requesting
rezoning from Rural, to OFC-Office Distri.t .
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V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Poolside Apartments ,, 84 unit apartment and doubl.--.
bungalow lots located south of Anderson Lakes Parkway
and northwest of Neill Lake Road in The Preserve . -
Request for PUD Development Stage . Rezoning to RH 2 . 5
and Preliminary Plat approval •. 8± acre sites .
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B. Area G of The Preserve Commericial Flan , presentation
of development standards implementing the PUD Concept
��- Plan and request for rezoning from Rural to C-Reg-Service .
The sit#- is located in the north3ast quadrant of the
Schooner Blvd . and US 269/212 intersection .
VI . OLD BUSINESS
VII . NEW BUSINESS
-21 VIIT . PLANNER' S REPORT
A. Land development proceedures
XI . ADJOURNMENT
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AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Thursday, October 14, 1976
7:30 PM, City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Don Sorensen, Norma Schee, Rit-hard Lynch,
William Bearman, Rod Sundstrom,herb Fosnocht , Sidney Pauly
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 27, 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Don Sorensen
b. Council Representative Pauly
C. Others
IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Poolside Apartments, 84 unit apartment and double bungalow lots
located south of Anderson Lakes Parkway and northwest of Neill
Lake Road in The Preserve. Request for PUD Development Stage,
rezoning to RM 2 _ S and RM 6. 5 and preliminary plat approval.
B. East/West Parkway Apartments, The Preserve. Request for rezoning
from Rural to RM 2.5 on 8.98 acres for 129 rental apartment units.
'Me site is located west of The Preserve Center,
C. Area G of The Preserve Commercial Plan, presentation of develop-
men'- standards implementing the PUD Concept Plan and request for
rezoning from Rural to C-Regional Service. The site is located
in the northeast quadrant of the Schooner Boulevard and U.S. 169/
212 intersection.
V. OLD BUSINESS
V1 . NEW BUSINESS
M . PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Land Development Procedures
B. Opus II Status
C. Stewart Highland Status
IX. ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLAUNNNING CONMISSION
aprThursday, October 14, 1976 7 :3d0oPM City Hall
%XMI"SIGN inairman von Sorensen, William Bearman, Richard Lynch
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Sidney Pauly
C0WISSIOW ABSENT: Norma Schee, Rod Sundstrom, Herb Fosnocht
STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnav,Jean Johnson
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lynch moved, Bearman seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted. The motion
carried unanimously.
II. MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 27_ 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
P. 1,III . ,2 . , should read city commissions' roles
P. 2, IV. ,A. , 2F should read approved asid will be removed.
Amendment : should read . . . and term of this PUD Sign amendment
Motion:
araan moved, Lynch seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted and corrected.
The motion carried unanimously.
III. 14EMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Don Sorensen
1. Sorensen expressed concern that the recent Council approval of the
Highway Maintenance Facility appears considerably different from the
previous city approval and he would have desired that, dut to the
significant changes, the matter had been referred back to the Planning
Commission. He felt no sensitivity had been given to the City's
planning process or :siltation protection for Nine Mlle Creek. He then
asked the staff to outline the Council 's approval .
The planner summarized the approved plan as a slightly larger building
surrounded by a cyclone fence and plantings.
Sorensen said he believes the City has the right and obligatiun to reconsi-
der the Highway Maintenance Facility.
Pauly stated she would convey his concerns to the Coemcil.
2. Sorensen felt , if t?-? recent ahsao from the City Attorney regarding mobile
homes is to be part of the Guide Pam update, the comission world benefit
from reviewing i t.
S. Sorensen questioned wh+ether the Planning Commission had ever made a recom erda-
tion or held a public hearing on the preliminary plat of the Edenvale Family
Recreational Center plat and the legality of holding a preliminary mid final
plat simultaneously before the Council as was done with the Edenvale Famnily
Recreational Center plat. The planner stated it was dame after gaining the
City Attorney's opinion.
B. Council aul P
kepresentative y
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1. Pauly reported the Council the Hidden Oaks project.
2. Pauly reported the Council had referred the East/Vest Parkway
Apartments to the commissjon for their r-.;c■mmandations.
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• approved
Planning Coymission Minutes -2- Oct. 140 1976
IV. PETITIONS AND 'REQUESTS
A. Poolside artments 84 unit apartment and double bungalow lots located
south of Anderson Lakes Parkway and northwest of Neill Lake Road in
The Preserve. Request for PUD Development Stage, rezoning to RM 2.S and
RM 6.S and preliminary plat approval.
The planner deferred the commission to the brochure and informed thou thehiilding plan
• is essentially the same as the Neill Lske Apartments , except it is located
on a different site.
Dan Ness, The Preserve, outlined the location of the site and trails around the
site. He stated the PUD approval is for 7-I5 units/acre and they are proposing
approxiaately 13 units / acre.
Mr. Noe, architect for the project, showed a model of the building and discussed
the layout, topography, acigled balconies, nrd parking of 2h spaces / unit.
Pauly asked for the total length of the building. Mr. toe responded 250 feet.
Dearman asked if 1 parking stall "in' was mandatory. Noe was unsure if that
had been determined .
Sorensen asked the staff to address the adequacy of overflow parking for the
project since no parking is allowed on the East/West Parkway.
Lynch questioned the type of units being considered for the purposed RM 6.S site.
i Mr. Ness replied .possibly 3 double bungalow units.
Sorensen questioned the safety of locating the totlot across the parking )ot.
On responded they would research alternate locations for the totlot .
Sorensen asked for the lineal distance betwoen the building and the Ridgewood
garages. Moe estimated 40-Si? feet.
Tom! Bach,9051 Neill Lake Road, stated the project is the same as the Neill iAke
Apartmeas project which was recently denied, has adverse impacts upon the
Highpoint area, there is no assurance the buffer will be built, and since the
residents have not had sufficient time to have their attorney review the proposal
that it be continued until late November. He added that because the project is
similar to the Neill Lake project it should nflt have been approved to- be reconsi-
dered in less than one year's time.
gob Carlsom,9061 Neill Lake Road, expressed disapproval of the request and felt
the changes submitted do not warrant reconsideration of the project.
John Retterath,9011 Higllpoint, expressed concern that the proposed double bungalow
lots hm►e sufficient setbacks and ade"te buffering.
Mrs. ketterath asked If the project would be a 22100rogram. loaT ► Peterson, The
►mstrye, replied they are applying for such approval .
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moved, Lynch secoaded, to continue the Poolside project to the October
ZSth meeting. "w Notioc carried ummisously.
notion 2:
arc roved, bearwon seco-Weed, to direct the staff to prepare a staff report for
tie following owning. The cation carried unasinvus1y.
` pproved
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B. East/West Parkway Apartments,,, The Preserve. Request for rezoning from.
Rural to RM 2.5 on 8.98 Lures for 129 rental apartment units. The si+&
is located west of The Preserve Center.
The planner informed the commission the Council , upon request from The
Preserver has approved the reconsideration of the project.
Dcm Hess pointed-Jut the location of the site and the surrounding trails.
Mr. Moe, architect , statei he feels the ievisee.. plan has better unit orienta-
tion a lower profile and each unit would have a separate entrance.
Sorensen asked the staff to investigate the significance of the Shoreland
Awagement Act relative to this project.
Sorensen asked The Preserve to submit more detailed grading plans.
Sorensen asked if 1 enclosed garage would be included in the rent . Hess replied
affirmative.
Mir. Carlson, 9061 Neill hake Road, questioned .thy the project was approved for
reconsideration if the previous plan had been denied partially due to the City's
present number of subsidized units.
The plainer replied he believes the changes warrant reconsideration and the City
has an obligation to act upon applications.
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Hess stated funding is available for4D3 progrates, and a report upon the project's
impacts will be -forthcoming along with a statement from the South Hennepin Hwan
Services Council .
W. Bach, 90Si Neill Lake Road, asked who the owner/manager of the apartments
would be. Mr. Larry Peterson replied Mr. Bernardi.
Motion 1 :
wly moved, Lynch seconded, to continue the item to the next meeting. The
notion carried unanimously. -
Notion 2:
earman moved, Ly:�ch seconded, to refer the Item to the staff and Human Rights -- —
Coseission for reports. The motion c srried unanimously. _
C. Area G o� Preserve Commercial Plante pYesentation of development
standards implementing the PUD Concept Plan and request for rezoning
fro`+ ftral to C-Regional Service. The- site is located in the northeast
curer of th; S?3:ao Aar Swiovurd and US 169/212 intersection.
The planner referr6d the camiission to the Design Pramework Manual submitted 7
by The Preserve as a tool for developing Area G.
Hess stated the Design Framework Manual ( CFM ) standards are similar to those
used at Yorktown. He stated many plans are possible for the development of
Aram G and he believes the 5-8/1 ,000 parking ratio will accn modate most uses.
Sorensen expressed concern that Pigure A its the DYK would permit freestanding
restaurants, not clustered as previously approved.
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Planning Ctmm.ission minutes _y_ Oct. 14, 1976
Bearman and Pauly felt the DFN has merits and is a good attempt to
improve the platming. process.
Pauly suggested the City Attorney investigate the DFN and report on the legal
aspects of the document , delegation of authority, etc.
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wear an moved, Lynch secondod, to continue Area G to the October 2Sth meeting.
1%9 motion carried unanimously.
is OLD BUSINESS
None
VI . NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Land Development Procedures.
The planner suggested the Planning Cowmi.ssion consider adopting a public hearing
format, page 2 of Draft PUD Procedures, similar to the format presently used by
the Council.
Sorensen felt if too structured of a format is adopted, the commission night lose
the part of the governmm►t process which is--:public relations.
Commi s i Pauly investi-
gate members Lynch, Bza�csan and aul, felt the commission should �nvesti
gate adoption of a public hearing format to control lengthy discourse that is
not always germane .
a. Opus lI Status.
'rho planner reported Rauenhorst Corporation will he back soon with Opus II .
C. Stewart highlands.
The planner reported that the Stewart Highlands project would be on the following
meeting as a rowning and preliminary plat roquest.
The planner i men showed an overhead diagram outlining the upet ming schedule
Une hide Plan update. --
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
L nih i—vea. Pauly socor4#4, to 9dJ.rsr•• at II :tom P.S. ':":: =tion carried
tinanimousiy.
- ` - Reispectfully Submitted:
Joan Johnson