Planning Commission - 08/23/1976 YI 1 WI
AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Camoission
lKonday, August 23, 1976
7:30 PM, City Hall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
COMMISSION ME14BERS: Chairman Don Sorensen, Norma Schee, Richard Lynch,William
Bearman , Rod Sundstroo, Herb Fosnocnt, Sidney Pauly
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II . MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9, 1976 PLANNING COW9SSION MEETING
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Don Sorensen
B. Council Representative Pauly
C. Others
IV. PETITIONS AND i.EQItESTS.
A. Ziegler Incorporated, preliminary discussion on Ziegler's proposed pud
of approximately S8 acres of industrial and commercial uscs. The site
is located in the northwest quadrant of Washington Avenue and Valley
View Road.
B. Minnesota Miri-Storage, by Bruce Hubbard. Request for revised site plan
approval . Tire site is located at 6574 Flying Cloud Drive.
C. Hustad Develcgnent Corp- -ation, requests for side yard variances in
Prairie East Es-rates and Prairie East Second Addition.
V. OLD BUSINESS.
VI . NEW BUSINESS.
li I I . PLANNER'S REPORT.
A. Housing Chapter of Metropolitan Development Guidc.
8. Metropolitan Significance Regulations.
VI I I . AWOURNMN'i.
PRELIMINARY AGENDA
Planning Commission
Monday, August 23, 1976
7 :30 PM City Hall
Note: This agenda is subject to change, items may be added,
deleted , or changed. For final a enda call Jean _
Johnson at the City Hall, 941-2262, Fri ay before the
meeting. —
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
I . APPROVAL, OF AGENDA
II. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 90 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION FETING
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Don Sorensen
B. Council Representative Pauly
C. Others
IV. REPORTS AND RECOM14ENDATIONS
A. Minnesota Mini-Storage, by Bruce Hubbard. Request for revised site plan
approval . The site is located at 6574 Flying Cloud Drive.
B. Housing Chapter of Metropolitan Development Guide.
C. Metropolitan Siqnficance Regulations .
V. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS.
V1. OLD BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINES3
VITI . PLANNER'S REPORT
I X. WOURNMW
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MINUTES
FnFN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
approved
Monday, August 23, 1976 7:30 PM City Hall
r(MMISSION PRESENT: Chairman Don Sorensen, William Bearman, Rod Sundstrom,
Richard Lynch, Herb Fosnocht . Sidney Pauly.
COMMISSION ABSENT: Norma Schee
STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnam, Jean Johnson
Lynch chaired meeting until Sorensen's arrival
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Bearman moved, Sundstrom seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted. The motion
carried unanimously.
II . MINUTES OF THE AUCUST 9, 1976 P.."",*:.*':":';, COMMISSION I&c"TING
Bearman moved, Sundstrom seconded, to approve the minutes as written. The motion
carried 4 :0:1 with Pauly abstaining.
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairman Sorensen- arrived a little late
B. Pauly. Crosstown Extension.
1 . Pauly reported the staff had drafted a resolution at the council 's request
and such resolution would be considered at the Council 's August 24th meeting.
She then reported the city attorney does feel the city does have the power
to control the land uses in the area around the Crosstown.
Lynch suggested members submit any concerns, ideas, etc. , to Pauly prior
to the meeting.
Sorensen arrived.
A. Chairman Sorensen.
1. Sorensen inquired what action the Council. took on the Welter request .
Mrs. Pauly reported Mr. Welter had procured S acres thereby making any
action on the Council ' s part unnecessary.
2. Sorensen asked the planner his commn:nts on the proposed Crosstown resolution.
The planner reported the staff had suggested to the County that access be
provided to Minnetonka , but not to Eden Prairie, but the County said it
would be unacceptable. The planner said the staff believes because of past
commitments and agreements, it is difficult to back out of the extension now
as Minnetonka and OwCuunty have plannedfor the extension in conjunc-
tion with other projects .
IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS
A. Ziegler Incorporated, preliminary discussion on Ziegler's proposed pud of
approximately 58 acres of industrial and comercial uses. The site is
located in the northwest quadrant of Washington Avenue and Valley View Road.
The planner outlined the location of the proposed 58 acre pud and road alignments
within the Smetana Lake Sector. He reported utilities are it and available. The
plsnner then reviewed the processes Ziegler could foll-ovo,
1 . Zoning variance request before board of Appeals and Adjustments
with appeal possible to- the CGuncii .
2. PUD request before Planning Commission and Council with possible
ZoningI
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approved
Planning Commission Minutes -2- August 23, 1976
Mr. Bettis, Vice President Ziegler, stated they would like to present the
proposal to the commission, receive their suggestions on which process to
follow, and than return in two weeks for the next commission meeting. He
stated the initial building phase would be a 50,000-60,000 square foot
building for the sale and support of catepillar products and would not look
like their property at 94th Street and 35W. It is expected that 941% of the
equipment storage will he inside, but it is possible to have 1-3 trucks
stored outside at one time. He said they intend to be good neighbors ,
display the machinery in an attractive manner and screen and fence the
necessary areas. He reported they have had meetings with Hennepin County
in relation to the roads and the county has -Uasically accepted their plan.
Lynch questioned if the testing of the equipment would present a noise problem.
Mr. Bettis replied they will be using industrial silencers .
Pauly inquired if the acoustics of the btv'lding would also alleviate noise.
Mr. Cording,- architect for the project, stated the heavy concrete or block
type building the; intend to build serves in itself as a sound barrier.
:Nr. Cording then distributed photos of buildings of similar caist:uctiom
that Catepillar has throughout the country .
Mr. Bearman asked if Ziegler presently owns the S8 acres. Mr. Rtttis stated
the purchase is contingent on rezoning and approval of the pud.
Sorensen asked if Ziegler would be using the 17 acres to the west Mr. Bettis
replied negative.
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Sundstrom asked how many trailors would be parked in the southwest corner of the
site. Mr. Bettis replied 90% of the tractors coring in for service Loati without
trailors, but it is possible to have 3-4 trailors on the lot at one time. E
John Retterath, 9011 High Point Circle, inquired if Ziegler would be testing
equipment on public roads or on their site. Mr. Bettis replied the testing would
be done within tr,A building. `
Lynch inquired if Ziegler intended to expand their repair to iteas other than
engines. Bettis replied they say repair transmi-ssions in the future.
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The planner asked what proceles -:the comission would suggest Ziegler follow.
Bearman and Lynch preferwdth�: gud process with variances request from the I-S District.
Sorensen directed the staff to prepare a report for the next meeting if Ziegler
requests to be on the agenda. -
B. Minnesota Mini-Storage , by Bruce tkibbard. Request -for revise' site plan approval .The site is located at 6S74 Flying Cloud Drive.-
The planner reviewed the previously approved site pian and the proposer plan.
the changes are one building is lower by 10' , another is 2 stories instead of
one story, and the apartmentioffice is detached instead of attached. He reported =
Chris Enger, planning staff member, has reviewed the new plan relative to the �
site views from U.S. 212 and believes a 16' born may be needed to properly,
screen the building.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -3- August 23, 1976
Mr. Hubbard stated the original plan was approved three years ago and he
has had to wait until recently for city utilities . He stated the revised plan
will require less fill, save a number of trees and the detached storage
building of 30, is to meet the demand 4or the storage of motor homes. He
YJJulIry �ii3 :..'/uW115=i�ii 11V Would ww-k with the staff on the berming and
sc.eening and aL nas more *_hpr adequate fill onsite for the berm construction.
Sorensen asked if the percent ofimpervious coverage has increased from the -
original plan to the revised plan. Mr. Hubbard estimated the coverage has
increased 10%.
The planner believed the watershed district should review the revised plan
and stated the st-aff would forward the plan to the district for their comments .
Motion
Lynch moved, Bearman seconded, to recommend approval of the Bruce Hubbard revise:
plan for the Minnesota Mini-Storage proposal as per his letter of August 12, 1976
with the stipulation the property is bermed and landscaped in compliance with the
intent of the original approval. The motion carried unanimously.
C. Hustad Development Corporation, requests for side yard variances in
Prairie East Estates and Prairie East SeconA Addition.
The pla:,iner referred the commission to the letters submitted by Hustad(8-19-76)
and Windsor Corporation(8-18-76) , which outlines their requests . NP stated
the staff is recommending approval of the variances .
Mr. Woodland, President of Windsor Development Corporation , stated prospective
buyers prefer the larger home designs and fireplaces making the variances
necessary.
Sorensen questioned the reference in one of the letters that previously
fireplaces were not censi 'ered encroachments . Mr. Woodland said the city
building inspector checked with the city attorney, and the attorney suggested,
to be on the safe side, varainces be requested.
It was the consensus of the commission the issue of setbacks be addressed by
the city in the upcoming revised zoning ordinance and pud ordinance.
Motion 1 :
Bearman moved, Lynch seconded, to recumend approval of the setback variances
for Prairie East Estates as follows :
5 feet . . single story
10 feet. . single to 1'-1 stories
15 feet. . 2 stories or higher
The motion carried 3 :2 with Sorensen and Fo.snocht voting nay. Sorensen's nay
vote was for the same reasons as stated in other variance cases as there is
a strong need for the city to address the whole issue of setbacks and
variances in the context of the entire city ordinances .
Hot ion 2 :
Sundstrom moved, Beaman seconded, to recommzend the 2 foot encroachment variance
into sideyards for Prairie East Second Addition to be restricted only to fireplaces.
The motion carried 3:2 with Sorensen and Fosnocht voting nay. Sorensen's nay
vote was foy the same reasons stated under Motion 1 .
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approved
Eden Prairie Planning Commission -4- August 23, 1976
V. OLD BUSINESS
Lynch informed the cemnission the Sign Ordinance Study Committee is expecting
to have a preliminary draft completed by January 1 , A 77.
VI . NEW BUSINESS
None
VII . PLANNER'S REPORTS
A. Housing Chapter of Metropolitan Development Guide.
The planner reported a brier summary- on housing policies plans would be
distributed when it is finali7ad
B. Metropolitan Significance Regulations.
The planner inforrued the :=ommission he has the document explaining what
are significant matters and they should contact him if they wish to have
parts or all of the report trade available.
C. Guide Plan Update.
The planner reported neighborhood forum meetings would commence again in
October.
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
Lynch moved, Fosnocht seconded, to adjourn at 10:25 PM.
Respectfully Submitted:
Jean Johnson