Planning Commission - 11/10/1975 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, November 10, 1975
7:30 PM City Hall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Don Sorensen, Joan Meyers, Norma Schee,
Dick Feerick, Richard Lynch, Herb Fosnocht, Roger Boerger
STAFF MEMBERS: Dick Putnam, Jean M. Johnson, Chris Enger
I. MINUTES.
Minutes of the September 29, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting.
Minutes of the October 29, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting.
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
A. Chairperson Don Sorensen
B. Council Representative Joan Meyers
C. Others.
III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
A.Purgatory Creek Study, presentation by Marty Jessen and Don Brauer.
B.Condon/�Naegale Realty Company PUD, Concept Plan and rezoning request for
I-2 Park, Office, and Regional Service for 165.7 acres. The site is located
north of I-494 in the Major Center Area&south of Smetana Lake , and Nine Mile
Creek.
C.Carnes/Tangen Rezoning, request for single family rezoning from Rural to R1-22
for 2 lots. The site is located north of Willow Creek Addition and east of Bryant
Lake.
D.Maple Leaf Acres, by Loren Irvine, request for preliminary plat approval and
rezoning from Rural to RM 6.5 for lots 1-9 Block 1 , Community Commercial
for lots 10-12 Block 1, and the remaining lots in Block 1 and all lots in Blocks
2,3 and 4 to R1-13.5. The site is located east of TH 101 and south of Duck
Lake Trail.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A.Joint Council/Planning Commission meeting on Thursday, November 13th,
at 7:00 PM in the City Hall.
V. ADJOURNMENT.
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
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Monday, November 10, 1975 7:30 PM City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT : . Chairperson Don Sorensen, Richard Lynch, Norma Schee,
Herb Fosnocht.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Joan Meyers, Richard Feerick, Roger Boerger
STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnam, Marty Jessen, Jean Johnson
I. MINUTES.
Minutes of the September 29, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting.
Continued to the November 24th Planning Commission meeting.
Minutes of the October 28, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting.
P. 2, 3 P, should read- significantly from a predominance of ownership
units to over 50% multiple.
P. 3, eliminate the underlining on page 3.
# 11 , eliminate second sentence and densities. `
Schee moved, Sorensen seconded, to approve the minutes as written and
corrected. The motion carried 2:0:2 ( Fosnocht and Lynch abstained ) .
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II. MEMBERS REPORTS.
A, Chairperson Don Sorensen- none
B. Council Representative Joan Meyers-absent.
C. Others- none.
III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
A.Purgatory k Study, presentation by Marty Jessen and Don Brauer.
Marty Jessen, Community Service Director, : stated the creek study began in
1972 with discussion with the watershed district in an attempt to define the
creek corridor and determine proper uses along the creek. Presently the study
is being reviewed by the Planning Commission and the Parks, Recreation, and
Natural Resources Commission with a public hearing before the Council expected
sometime early in 1976. He stated 1 meeting has been held with local residents
and 55 out of approximately 90 persons attended the meeting.
Don Brauer of Brauer & Associates , consultant for the City and watershed district,
outlined the study and its purpose. He discussed the creek's nature and potential
uses . For crossings he suggested bridges if motorized vehicles are allowed
otherwise he believed rocks would be sufficient for pedestrian crossings .
Sorensen asked if a financial feasibility had been developed. Brauer responded
negative and stated the cost will be dependent upon the type of title obtained.
Fosnocht asked how trails would be placed along backyards that abut the creek,
i. e. Paradise Valley . Brauer said they are investigating ways of bypassing
existing backyards that abut the creek.
The planner asked if standards adopted for Purgatory Creek could be used for other
creeks in the City. Brauer believed each creek may make use of the same
principles, but each creek varies in its nature and value.
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The planner then asked if Mr. Brauer felt the creek study would require an
E.Q..C. review, Metro Council review, etc. Brauer stated it is mandatory
to submit the study as it involves wetlands , but he believes the study itself
could be submitted as an environmental impact statement,
Bill Bonner, Hustads., 'inquired when developers could submit their input.
Sorensen stated the commission will again consider the item at their November
24th meeting and suggested comments and concerns could be submitted at
that meeting or .following meetings. Sorensen asked Mr. Bonne' , if he
wanted to make a presentation at this time . Bonner replied he would present
something at the next meeting.
Sorensen stated the creek study has been publicized through- the newsletter& radio.
He ' then asked the paper reporters present that evening to extend an invitation
to all interested residents and inform them a copy of the study could be viewed
at the library or City Hall.
B. Condon/Naegele Realty Company PUD, Concept Plan and rezoning request for
I-2 Park, Office, and Regional Service for 165.7 acres. The site is located
north of I-494 in the Major Center Area and south of Smetana Lake and Nine
Mile Creek.
The planner reported the EQC staff has reviewed the P U D and has asked
for a full environmental impact statement. He suggested the commission defer
action until the necessity of a full EIS is determined.
Brauer stated it was mandatory that the pud be submitted and they _s
felt concurrent reviewals would save time.
Sorensen referred the Condon/Naegele PUD request and rezoning request to the
staff for a report and to be placed on the commission's next agenda .
C. Carnes/Tangen Rezoning, request for single family rezoning from Rural to
R1-22 for 2 lots. The site is located north of Willow Creek Addition and
east of Bryant Lake.
As the proponents are both friends and clients, Sorensen stated he would
refrain from voting but would participate in the discussion.
Mr, fim Olson, attorney for Carnes&Tangen,thanked the staff on behalf of
the proponents for their indepth study of the rezoning request. He then reviewed
their concerns relative to the .October 20th staff report. He said the
proponents desire the 25 foot lake access for the back lot but an easement
arrangement may be possible. He stated the proponents are willing to dedicate
the additional 9 feet to enlarge the road right-of-way to 44 feet, but they
have no control over the other landowner's dedication, selling, or easement
of ,additional right-of-way. He suggested the additional 9 feet of right-of-
way be acquired by the City if necessary.
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Tangen suggested the 100 foot setback in Alternative C.4.g. be changed
or to approximately 90 feet in order to preserve a large sugar maple. He
suggested they resolve the setback at the time of final platting.
Carnes believed the 3S foot road has served the existing residents well
preserves the natural resources and does not need additional right-of-way.
He did not believe allowing the 25 foot lake frontage for the back lot and 1 dock
would harm the lake because he felt this re zoning would complete the
Willow Creek Area and development around Bryant Lake. The planner disagreed
because of the possibility of development across the lake. >
Lynch asked for clarification of Alternative C .4. e. The planner explained
that access through the lots to the north to serve the parkland would be
beneficial for the Willow Creek area.
Fosnocht suggested the additional street right-of-way could be obtained when
utilities are installed ,
The planner felt the staff could not negotiate. any agreement other than the
minimum City standard of 44 feet..
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Schee moved, Lynch seconded for discussion purposes , to recommend to the
City Council approval of the Tangen/Carnes rezoning request for lots A-F
as per the air photo dated 11-10-75 with modifications for the following reasons;
1 . The 3 new lots will not adversely affect the ground water quality
or pollution potential of Willow Creek upon Nine Mile' Creek. and.Bryant
Lake.
2 . ' That the street and 3 lots complete the Willow Creek subdivision
in a compatible manner.
3. That the property is not developable within the foreseeable future
in any other manner.
4. That the following modifications to the proposed plan are the
basis for approval.
a. That the "strip lake frontage" be removed and only
Lot D be given access .
b. Modify Lot D to a minimum 100 foot frontage on Bryant
• Lake.
c. Give consideration to a joint driveway for Lots A and B
due to grading and tree removal required for the proposed
driveway for Lot A.
d. That the street right-of-way be 44 feet in width dedicated
to the City with the provision that the owners of: Lots A, B,
C, D and E maintain the street until such time as it is
' reconstructed to City standards.
e. That a pathway for pedestrians and bicyclists be provided
connecting to Willow Creek Road and future Bryant Lake
park land.
f. That Lot F be rezoned to R1-22 for combination with the
Freeburg Lot 10 of Willow Creek.
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g. That when homes. on Lots D and B are planned the proponents
should meet with the staff as to the house placement and lake
setback.
h. That the normal cash in lieu requirement be applied to the
three new single family home sites ( approximately $ 300/unit ) .
Vote : The motion carried 2:0:2 with Sorensen and Fosnocht abstaining.
D. Maple Leaf Acres, by Loren Irvine, request for preliminary plat approval and
rezoning from Rural to RM 6. 5 for lots 1-9 Block 1 , Community Commercial
for lots 10-12 Block 1 , and the remaining lots in Block 1 and all lots in Blocks
2 ,3 and 4 to R1-13.5 . The site is located east of TH101 and south of ..Duck
Lake Trail.
Mr. Irvine stated the sewer line used as the basis of measurement was
inaccurate and now the plat must be redesigned .
Sorensen asked if the redesign would be prepared by the commission's next
meeting. Mr. Irvine responded affirmative.
Sorensen referred the item to the staff and continued it to the Commission's "
next meeting.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. joint Council/Planning Commission meeting on Thursday, November 13, 1975
at 7:00 PM in the City Hall.
The commission discussed items they would like to discuss with the City
Council and directed the staff to submit the following recommended agenda
items; the role and responsibility of the Commission, status of the MCA,
the Fraser School, status of the Guide Plan update, the need for periodic
joint meetings, and the need for ordinance and procedural reviews.
- E. P. Suburban National Bank, request for the relocation of the temporary
facility to the Homart office trailor site.
Mr. Roy Terwilliger presented the request and answered the questions
of the commission
Motion:
Lynch moved, Fosnocht 2 nd, to recommend approval of the relocation of the
temporary bank facility to the Homart trailor site and recommend the City Council
•d.irect the City Attorney .redraft the agreement for their approval. The motion
carried unanimously.
V. ADTOURNMENT. .
Fosnocht moved, Lynch seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 11:00 PM. The
motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted
jean Johnson