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Planning Commission - 10/27/1975 AGENDA Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, October 27, 1975 7:30 PM, City Hall Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Don Sorensen, Joan Meyers, Norma Schee, Roger Boerger, Richard Feerick, Richard Lynch, Herb Fosnocht STAFF MEMBERS: Dick Putnam, jean Johnson, Chris Enger I. MINUTES A.Minutes of the September 29, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting. B.Minutes of the October 8, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting. II. MEMBER'S REPORTS A.Chairperson Don Sorensen B.Council Representative Meyers C.Other Members. III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. A.Mitchell Lake PUD Revision and Rezoning, request for rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5. The development is located east of Mitchell Lake and West of Co. Rd. 4 on approximately 120 acres. B.Tangen Carnes, a request for single family rezoning from Rural to R1-22 for 2 lots. The site is located north of Willow Creek Addition and east of Bryant Lake. C.Condon/Naegele Realty Company, PUD Concept Plan and rezoning request for I-2 Park, Office, and Regional Service for 165.7 acres. The site is located north of I-494 in the Major Center Area, south of Smetana Lake, and Nine Mile Creek. PUBLIC HEARING Amsden Hills, Area 5a of The Preserve, request for preliminary plat approval for approximately 51 lots. The site is located off Franlo Road, south of the E/W Parkway and east of Olympic Hills. IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. PUBLIC HEARING A.Maple Leaf Acres, by Rusty Irvine request for preliminary plat approval and rezoning from Rural to RM6.5 for lots 1-9 Block 1, Community Commercial for lots 10-12 Block 1 , and the remaining lots in Block 1 and all lots in Blocks .,, 2 , 3 and 4 to R1-13.5. The area is locate ' ea t-� d south of Duck- Lake Trail. y_ V. PLANNERS REPORT. 3 _ A.Request for temporary sig` ment Store announci _ March, 197,. B.Rezoning for 17+ acres north of T.H.#5 east of the Prairie Lawn & Garden site. C.Dentist office in M.C.A. adjacent to Franlo Road. VI. ADTOURNMENT. t'E `4 s�R' �``4iA`+".�a+►�s _'8�s ur MINUTES - EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION ,approved • Monday, October 27, 1975 7:30 PM City Hall MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairperson Don Sorensen, Norma Schee, Joan Meyers, Richard Feerick, Roger Boerger MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Lynch, Herb Fosnocht STAFF PRESENT: Dick Putnam, jean M. Johnson I. MINUTES - Chaired by Norma Schee until Sorensen arrived A. Minutes of the September 29, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting. Continued. B. Minutes of the October 8, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting. P. 3, D. , should read- Sorensen reported the proponent's president Don Peterson . P. 4, 3 P, should read- . . . two of the residents . 7 F, sentences should begin with Carnes not Tang.en. Motion: should read 4:0: 1 with Sorensen abstaining. Boerger moved, Feerick seconded, to approve the minutes as written and corrected. The motion carried 4:0:1 with Meyers abstaining. II. MEMBERS REPORTS. A. Chairperson Don Sorensen. Not present at this time. B. Council Representative Meyers. Meyers informed the Commission the Council would be interviewing Brauer and Associates, BRW, and Midwest Planning & Research at their October 28th meeting. Meyers reported the Council's action regarding the Flying Cloud Airport Expansion was that no expansion should occur at this time and suggested that operational procedures be reviewed for safety purposes. Meyers reminded the Commission the Council has set a date for a . meeting with the Planning Commission for Thursday, November 13th at 7:00 PM in the City Hall. She suggested any items for the joint meeting agenda be • submitted to the staff. C. Others. Feerick reported he presented the Commission's selection of a consultant ( Midwest Planning &Research), to update the Guide Plan to the Council at the Council's October 14th Meeting. He stated the Council was not satisfied with the Commission's submission of only one consultant and would have preferred a ranking on the 3 final consultants. Feerick also reported that the flyer distributed to southern Eden Prairie residents regarding the airport issue misrepresented the circumstances and facts involved and he believes it severely hindered any airport .improvement. -- Sorensen arrived --- approved Planning Commission Minutes -2- October 2*, 1975 7 I. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. A. Mitchell Lake PUD Revision and Rezoning, request for rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5. The development is located east of Mitchell Lake and West of Co. Rd. 4 on approximately 120 acres. The planner referred the Commission to the Environmental Assessment preparbd by Chris Enger,the staff report from Marty lessen, and the Oct. 23rd staff report. He informed the Commission that the Parks , Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission has not yet made a recommendation on the Mitchell Lake PUD. She planner stated the staff feels the character of the PUD has changed signifi- cantly from a predominance of ownership units to over 50% multiple. He ques- tioned the desirability of having single family residents traveling through the multiple area to reach the single family area. The planner then reviewed the recommendations in the October 23rd staff report. Boerger questioned if any of the proposed structures would be damaged by possible high water. The planner felt the structures would rot be endangered. The Commission then discussed the possible access to the island site if it was a park site, the : park's usability, and the desirability of using public • funds for a park that would have limited use. The planner felt possible funding sources would be; grants, Metro bonding, Lawcon funds, etc. Mr. Thompson, Pemton Inc. , estimated the future lot values of the island to be approximately $ 35,000 - 45,000 / lot. Feerick asked if a homeowner's association would be viable in the PUD. Thompson responded they have been involved with homeowner associations since 1966 and most have been successful. Meyers asked how utilities would be handled. The planner reported no major trunk extension would be necessary and a lift station would be necessary to serve the back area. In regards to the recommendations in the October 23rd staff report Mr. Hill felt that Recommendations Al , A4 &A 7 would require further negotiation. Sorensen asked what the lot sizes would be . Hill responded they would be approximately 11 , 000 square feet with 85-110'front footage. Sorensen questioned the ability of 70-800wide houses being built on lots that are as narrow 'as 85 feet. Planning Commission Minutes -3- approved October 2S, 1975 • Mitchell Lake PUD, Continued 7 Sorensen stated he does not feel the original or revised PUD plan conforms to the Guide Plan. He suggested the Commission consider recommending decertification of the original PUD approval if the revised PUD is not approved by the City. Thompson said they would oppose the decertification of the PUD as it would devalue the land. Motion 1 Schee moved, Feerick seconded, to recommend rezoning to R1-13.5 and revision to the 1972 PUD Plan for the Mitchell Lake PUD and to include • the following recommendations; A. That the PUD 71-04 be modified in the following areas: 1. That the City continue to pursue the possibility of purchasing the island and continue to determine the suitability of the island as a park. That a 6 month time be set in which the city would ` seek funds for the purchase. If the city decides not to purchase the site then the owner may apply for zoning and platting. 2. That area B be restudied to minimize the grading on cul-de-sac # 1 and reduce the road impact upon the pond. 3. That area C be approved for low density multi family condomin- ium development and that the northern side of Mitchell Lake be coordinated with the northern property. 4. That area D not be, approved for multiple apartment development , rather . the original plan for single family detached or single family attached be appropriate to maintain the original character of the Mitchell Lake development. 5. That area E be reoriented to provide a neighborhood mini-park with space adequate for informal game fields. 6. That area F be redesignated from the original PUD to single family attached or detached for townhouse type development.. At the time of development stage application sensitive design in the woodland and setback from Mitchell Lake. 7. That the open space around the lake be expanded to approximately the 880' elevation. The ownership and maintenance responsibilities may be homeowners association or public depending upon city and developer arrangements. 8. That the developer construct a trailway along Co. Rd. 4 as each phase of the project is developed or .earlier as the need is demonstrated. 9. That an east/west trail be constructed from Co. Rd. 4 to the future Mitchell Lake Park site . southwest of the site at such time as development for area F is approved. 10. That the collector street right-of-way be reduced to 80'from the proposed 100' and thatno single driveways front on that street. 11 . That no specific dwelling unit number is approved except in the . single family detached plat, rather the densities will be determined as the unit size, design and site planning is submitted. approved Planning Commission Minutes -4= October 26, 1975 Mitchell Lake PUD, Continued B. Recommend rezoning of Blocks 1, 2 and 3 from Rural District to R1-13.5 in conformance-with the Revised Mitchell Lake -PUD 74-04. That the rezoning be based upon the following conditions: 1. That if the single family lots establish a homeowners association that the lakeshore be maintained by the association with a maximum of three common association dock areas be provided-no private individual lot docks will be permitted. If no homeowners association is established tlmn the lakeshore will be dedicated to the public. 2. That an area of approximately 250 to 300 feet square be provided and developed ( grading and turf ) by the developer for the benefit of the proposed lots. Ownership and maintenance will be handled as discussed in point 1. 3. That a trailway along the collector street to Co. Rd. 4 and Mitchell Lake Court be included in the plan. 4. That the plat be redesigned to minimize grading on lots 30-24 in Block 1 and reflect the change in the use of the island or Block 4. The cul-de-sac could be pulled north to move it out of the floodprain. 5. That Pemton may petition the city for platting and rezoning for Block 4 if the city decides not to purchase the 10:� acres. The city must make its decision & months from the second reading> of the ordinance approving phase 1 , block 1, 2, and 3. 6. That the city may consider rezoning back to Rural if development is not begun within two years of the ordinance's second reading. Vote: The motion•carried 4:1 ( Schee, Feerick, Meyers voted aye; Boerger voted aye with reservations ) and Sorensen voted nay. - Boerger's reservations were because the problem associatedwith the access to the park/• and lack of Park & Recreation recommendations. - Sorensen's nay vote was based on the following concerns; 1.the 6 month limit may not be sufficient to determine the funds' availability and the site's suitability. 2,the recommendations as worded appear to allow development in excess of the Guide Plan. Provisions should be adopted reflecting the total area is of lower density residential. 3the proposed lot sizes ( front and side yard setbacks ) do not conform to the land development pattern. 2. Boerger moved, Schee seconded,the PUD approval should include the Watershed District's letter of October 1„ 1975 relating to the Mitchell Lake'PUD. Vote The motion carried 4:0:1 with Sorensen abstaining. r approved Planning Commission Minutes -5- October 29, 1975 7 B. Carnes Tan en Rezonin , a request for single family rezoning from Rural to R1-22 for 2 lots. The site is located north of Willow Creek Addition and east of Bryant Lake. Sorensen reported that the Carnes/Tangen request would be continued 2 weeks per the request of the proponent. C. Condon/Naegele Realty Company, PUD Concept Plan and rezoning request for I-2 Park, Office, and Regional Service for 165 .7 acres . The site is located north of I-494 in the Major Center Area, south of Smetana Lake, and Nine Mile Creek. The planner reported the staff has concerns relative to the uses proposed j and hopefully a staff report will be prepared by the next meeting. Sorensen directed the staff to place the item on the November loth agenda. PUBLIC HEARINGS. V Amsden Hills, Area 5a of The Preserve, request for preliminary plat approval for approximately 51 lots. The site is located off Franlo Road, south of the E/W Parkway-and east of Olympic Hills. The planner reported the Council has approved the rezoning of Amsden Hills. Meyers expressed concern relative to the 30 foot drop near the pathway. Don Hess , The Preserve, stated the final grading would take that into consideration. Sorensen had concerns with the sizes of the most easterly lots and lots 1 in Blocks 1 & 2. Hess said the minimum lot sizes were 9,000 square feet. Motion 1 Schee moved, Feerick seconded, to close the public hearing on the Amsden Hills preliminary plat. The motion carried unanimously. Motion 2 Meyers moved, Schee seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Amsden Hills preliminary plat dated 10-6-75 incorporating the following concerns of the Commission members ; B1 , L2 , Street D, is centered in the middle of the lot and it may cause head light problems after dark. . B1 , L 1 , width of the lot B 2 , L 1 , width of the lot Cul-de-sacs on Streets C and D approved • Planning Commission Minutes -6- October 2*, 1975 1 lot in Blocks 1 and 2 , 1 lot in Streets C and D, and 1 lot in lots 20-23 should be eliminated. B 5, Lots 6 ,7,8, and 11 Y Vote: The motion carried with 4 ayes and 1 abstain ( Feerick ) Feerick abstained because he respected the developer's and Commission's concerns. IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. PUBLIC HEARING. A. Maple Leaf Acres, by Rusty Irvine,request for preliminary plat approval and j rezoning from Rural to RM 6.5 for lots 1-9 Block 1, Community Commercial for lots 10-12 Block 1, and the remaining lots in Block 1 and all lots in Blocks 2 ,3 and 4 to R1-13.5. The area is located east of TH 101 and South of Duck Lake Trail. Rusty Irvine presented his proposal for rezoning and stated the 3 acres proposed as park would require some fill in the floodplain and he is working with the Watershed District. Mrs. Linda Welch, 18810 Harrogate Drive, was concerned that the Community Commercial would attract traffic at the already dangerous intersection of TH 101 and Duck Lake Trail. Meyers asked the staff to evaluate the proposed Community Commercial as to access and berming. She also felt the Watershed District's response would be necessary in order to completely evaluate the proposal. Meyers then questioned the depth of the lots on TH 101 as to the quality of living environment they would offer. Meyers suggested cash in lieu of the park .land proposed should be investigated because the land may not be suitable for park purposes, a trail system should be investigated, & -analternate to the 20 foot drop from Sugar Hills Circle to the turn should be determined. • Sorensen was also concerned about the depth of the lots along T-H 101 and he felt the staff should address the grade at Lochanburn Circle and investigate the possibility of squaring off Duck Lake Trail and 101's intersection. Sorensen referred the request to the staff, Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission, and the Watershed District for reports and recommendations. Motion: Boerger moved, Meyers seconded, to continue the public hearing. to November 10, 1975. The motion carried unanimously. approved Planning Commission Minutes -7- October 26, 1975 0 PLANNER' S REPORT. A. Request for temporary sign for Powers Department Store announcing opening March, 1976. The planner informed the Commission that Powers would like to install a temporary sign approximately 80 square feet south of the Wye Station for the purpose of announcing Power's opening in March 1976. The Commission felt such a sign would be reasonable as it is for a major tenant, it ' is only temporary, and it would assist the shopping facility. Motion: Meyers moved, Boerger seconded, to grant the temporary sign of a 8x10 feet size for 6 months and instruct the staff to write a letter to Homart Development Company outlining the grant and conditions. The motion carried unanimously. B. Rezoning of 17 � acres north of 'T:H. 5 and east of the Prairie Lawn and_ Garden site. The planner asked if the Commission wanted the staff to publish a notice about the rezoning. Meyers suggested the staff prepare a report for the Commission on the affected parcels' sizes, accesses, etc . , before a notice is published. Sorensen referred the item to the staff for a staff report on the parcels involved, topogral)hy, access, etc. C. Dentist Office in the MCA , adjacent to Franlo Road. The planner felt 3 alternatives to the dentist's request to open an office in a home and live there would be; rezoning the .8 acre site to Office, grant an interim land use, or deny the request. Mr. Darkenwald, owner of an adjoining house, stated he does not object to an office zoning. Sorensen felt rezoning would constitute spot zoning and all adjoining 'properties should be notified. Feerick and Meyers also disagreed with rezoning the site to Office. Dr. Hoaglund said he would like the site rezoned for office use and be allowed to live there on an interim basis. He added he may build a _permanent office in the future. The planner said he was under the impression the interim use request was for zoning and that if the Doctor intends to have a permanent office site he should apply for rezoning. e The Commission suggested Dr. Hoaglund familarize himself with the Ordinance and meet with the staff agpin. approved Planning Commission Minutes -8- October 29, 1975 • 7 Planner's Report, Continued The planner reported the Eden Prairie National Bank would like to move their temporary bank site from the approved site to the Homart trailor office site with access off Homart Road. The Commission agreed to consider the item at the next meeting and directed the staff to have the Bank prepare sketches of what they propose. VI. ADJOURNMENT. Boerger moved, Feerick seconded, to adjourn at 11:45 PM. The motion carried unanimously. Respectively Submitted Jean M. Johnson 1 ems'