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Planning Commission - 09/08/1975 AGENDA Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, September 8, 1975 7:30 PM, City Hall InAVocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call PM 7:35 I. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 25 , -1975 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 7:45 II. MEMBERS REPORTS. A. Chairperson Don Sorensen B. Council Representative Meyers. C. Others. III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 8:00 A. Olympic Hills Phase III,request for development stage approval, rezoning and preliminary plat approval for 20 single family and 14 atrium units. The site is located south of the Trail's townhouses and west of Franlo Road. ! 8;3 B. Hustad Development Company, request for an office, industrial, and residential PUD on a 26 acre site located south of U. S . 169, west of Creek Knoll Road, and north of Co. Rd. 1 . 9:15 C. Presentation by Wallace Hustad, "PUD 1975 " . IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. 9:45 A. Mitchell Lake PUD Revision, request by Pemton for revision to the .. f approved 1971 residential PUD. The PUD is located east of Mitchell P Lake and west of Co. Rd. 4. 10:15 B. Request by W. Gordon Smith Company ( Jesse Schwartz ) to install i a retail gas pump in an'Industrial Zone, 7920 Wallace Road.. 10:45 V. PLANNER'S REPORT . A. Planning Checklist - Mr. Fosnocht. B. .Comprehensive Guide Plan Update. C. PS District 'D. Status of 169 Study Area. 11:15 VI. ADJOURNMENT. K Y" MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, September 8, 1975 7:30 PM City Hall MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Don Sorensen, Joan Meyers, Richard Lynch, . Roger Boerger MEMBERS ABSENT: Norma Schee, Herb Fosnocht, Richard Feerick STAFF PRESENT. Dick Putnam, jean Egan I. MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 25 , 1975 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. P...l , II. A, should read- Sorensen informed the Commission of the side and front lot request on the*Board of Appeals and Adjustment's Thursday agenda. He stated that since the item was not of major importance he would exercise the discretion the Commission invested in him. III. A. should read- representatives were present to answer . . . P. 3, # 3, should read- ( noise abatement procedures including noise level, and Pitch should consider . . . P. 4 , Motion, add- The Commission unanimously directed that the Garden King site be addressed by the staff. P. 6, II. B, should read- City Manager could recommend exceptions . 2nd P, add- Copies of the report were distributed to the Commission. Meyers moved, Lynch seconded, to approve the minutes as published and corrected. The motion carried 2:0:2 with Lynch and Boerger abstaining. ' MEMBER' S REPORTS. f Meyers moved, Sorensen seconded, to move the items under Member's ' Report to the end of the agenda. The motion carried unanimously. III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. ' A.Olympic Hills Phase III, request for development stage approval, rezoning, and preliminary plat approval for 20 single family and 14 atrium units . The .. } site is located south of the Trail's toWnhouses and west- 'of Franlo Road: The planner stated he felt the concerns of the Planning Commission had been met by the proponent. Bruce Knutson summarized the changes such as; relocation of the totlot, pathways, etc Sorensen asked if the pathways would be connected to the City system and if they would be usable by the public within reasonable limits. Knutson responded affirmative. The planner informed the Commission the City Attorney has been asked to develop easement documents for trail use. Lynch moved, Meyers seconded, to continue discussion of third phase of k Olympic Hills after Mr. Hustad's presentation. The motion carried unanimously. �C. Presentation by lArallace Hustad, "PUD 1975 i Mr. Hustad believed a shift in the market and financial requirements is hurting the PUD concept . He stated that some institutions have taken over PUD developments by default, and now those institutions are competitors uninterested k S approved , Planning Commission Minutes -2- Sept. 8, 1975 in lending to other PUD s . Hustad also cited withdrawal of federal money, buyers preference for single family detached , and confusion over homeowner's documents as reasons for PUD's decline. or Hustad felt developers of large tracts of land need money and staying power or they have to liquidate their large land holdings. He also felt if PU D standards were more flexible it would be easier to develop PUD s. The commission members desired having Mr. Hustad return for the next meeting when he would have more time to talk. Mr. Hustad agreed. A. Olympic Hills, continued. Meyers questioned if the easement as .suggested in the .staff report could be extended to include the ridge. The planner felt it was possible although total dedication in his opinion, seemed unfair. Boerger felt total course dedication was unporportional to the size of the d evelopment. Motion: Lynch moved, Boerger seconded, to recommend rezoning to RM 6. 5 permitting single family detached and double atrium. units as per the staff report of July 21, 1975,and September 2 , 1975, and the engineer's report of September 8 th with the following changes to f., g. , and Summary in the Sept. 2 staff report ; f . We believe that open space restrictions on the 15th green, tee, fairway; 7th tee area;- the. 6th green area, and the ridge area from the 9th green to the western property line would insure 'significant open space directly related to the proposed 28 acre apartment, single family, and atrium units. g. The northern atrium unit shall be exchanged with the single family lot south of the entrance road as far south as possible to provide space for the trail to negotiate the hill and not totally block the view of the existing Trail's townhouses. That construction begin within 2 years of the City Council's final rezoning, action or the City shall' have the right to• consider rezoning Olympic Hills Phase III back to Rural. Amendment Meyers moved, Sorensen s-econded, to amend the motion to read-the northern unit ( single family unit at the entrance ) shall be combined or exchanged to increase the setback distance (for : an additional 20 feet atleast) , of the unit at Franlo Road. The amendment did not pass, ( Boerger & Lynch voted nay } , Vote: The motion carried unanimously. '+ . ,appro ved Planning Commission Minutes -3- Sept. 8, 1975 10 B. Hustad Development Company, request for office industrial and residential PUD on a 26 acre site located south of U. S. 169 west of Creek Knoll. Road and north of Co. Rd. 1 . The planner said the sty is recommending approval of the modified site plan; and the storm sewer specifics will be worked out between the proponent and Hustads. Sorensen questioned why the staff is recommending approval of office uses outside of the MCA in this case. The planner responded that the one and two story office buildings are not regional in character and a need for � i non-residential uses around the airport 'exists. Sorensen then asked the planner's opinion of the letter from the highway department. The planner stated he did not feel the City could withhold approval based upon the letter. Meyers inquired into the status of Creek Knoll Road's cul-de=sacing. The planner replied that alot of work is entalled and it is not entirely applicable to the office development. Bill Bonner stated they agree with the buffer recommendations in the staff report and they are now requesting rezoning only for the office,and concept approval for the industrial and residential parts of the PUD. • Sorensen asked what Hustad's intentions are regarding the existing house presently used as an office. Bonner replied they intend to retain it and lease it as an office. ` Bonner stated that Hustad's disagree with recomrriBndation(la)in the staff report and desire to retain the .8 acre sign site. Meyers asked if 1 main entrance with right-in/'right-out had been considered. The planner responded that they are waiting for the County Highway's response a Lynch asked if the proposal is consistent with the Guide Plan. The planner felt the office 'project. is inconsistent but office&industrial uses are needed around the airport. Motion: Boerger moved, Meyers seconded, to recommend approval of the Hustad office PUD concept plan for the area located between 169, Creek Knoll Road, and Co. Rd. 1 for the overall 22 acre plan and rezoning from Rural to Office . And include the recommendations of the .engineer's report dated September 8, and the staff report of September 2 with the following changes to #s 1 ,4, and 8; 1 . a. The .8 acre sign site, wooded slopes, and floodplain be dedicated for public open space. Subject to the developer's right to maintain the existing sign for a period reasonabl-r necessary for the completion of the Bluff's Sector. 4. The 9 tacre site be rezoned from Rural to OFC District for thy; construction of I ! I story office buildings as depicted on the modified site plan dated Sept. 8 to be prepared in conformity with the overlay presented to the Planning Commission on Sept. 8, 1975 , 8. That development of the Tst stage office or industrial. begin by September 1 , 1977, or the City may reevaluate the PUD I Concept and rezoning plans, ino'ci.oll carried lo.o:7. wit.h -)orensen aNstaining, 1 i approved • Planning Commission Minutes -4- Sept. 8, 1975 IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS. A. Mitchell Lake PUD Revision, request by Pemton for revision to the Mitchell Lake PUD approved in 1971 . The PUD is located east of Mitchell Lake and west of Co. Rd. 4 . Mr.•James Hill reviewed the 1971 PUD with 770 living units and a gross density of approximately 7 units/acre. The changes were; reduction to 670 units/acre with a gross density of 5.6 units/acre, elimination of the zero lot line homes; multiple unit8 along Co. Rd. 4, townhouses south of the lake , the remainder in single family, and park along the water boundaries. Sorensen asked what the average lot sizes would be. Hill estimated the sizes as about 11, 000 sq. ft. with an average width of 90 feet. Lynch asked what the timeframe is for the project. Hill responded that they would start grading this year if possible and the single family would be built first, the townhouses second, and the multiple units last. Meyers asked the staff to address the single family use in the previously designated park area and the single entrance to Co. Rd. 1. Motion: Boerger moved, Meyers seconded, to refer the project to the staff and Park and Recreation Commission for a report. The vote was unanimous. B. Request by W. Gordon Smith Company ( Jesse Schwartz ) , to install 3 retail gas pump in an Industrial Zone, 7920 V1Tallace Road. The planner stated the Council referred the request to the Planning Commission.for an interpretation_of•Ordinance 135. He believed.the retail sales and self service gas pump could be considered a minor's upporting use. Lynch inquired who would manage the pump sales. Jesse Schwartz Jr , responded it would be strickly self service and controlled by inner office personnel. The planner suggested moving the pumps to prevent traffic hazards from possible stacking of cars . Meyers suggested limiting•the hours of the self service operation to the hours of the-warehouse . . Lynch asked if the canopy as recommended in the staff report would be possible. Schwartz replied it could be done , but it would be expensive. Sorensen felt fuel pumping and storage is related, but one use is bulk and the other a commercial outlet. t Planning Commission Minutes -5- Sept. 8, 1975 1 A Motion: t_ Lynch moved, Meyers seconded, that the W. Gordon Smith Company be allowed to install 3 pumps as a self service gasoline island in conjunction with their warehouse building as per the. Engineer's report of September 8, 1975 , and the following ; 1 . That the pump area be covered with alimaterial compatible with the building providing an enclosure for the fuel pumps. 2 . That price signing be -limited to- the roof support enclosure and not on the roof or free-standing. 3. That signing for the self service fuel station be included on the one permitted freestanding sign. The orientation of that free-standing sign shall be to the, �ja ent streets and not T.H. 5 . 41�vc ra � 4. Hours of operation of the three4 pump be limited to the hours of operation of the warehouse. The.motion carried 3:1 with Sorensen voting nay. Sorensen's nay vote was based on his interpretation of Section 8, ( 8.1.b ) , of Ordinance 135, and the traffic flow and * traffic hazards that may develop. V. PLANNER'S REPORT. • Not discussed. II.B. Meyers.Retort. Meyers reported the Council rezoned the first phase of Parrview Apartments with changes in building location, reduction of the units to 120, and the deletion of the commercial acreage. Meyers also reported the Council'approved the Eden Prairie Family Recreation Center rezoning to Community Commercial. II.A. Sorensen inquired if the Commission members desired having a Planning Commission representative present at Council meetings to present the Commission's recommendations. It was a concensus that a representative -is not necessary . The Commission believed a staff person should present the Planning Commission's recommendations. VI. ADJOURNMENT. Lynch moved, Meyers seconded to adjourn the meeting at 12:56 AM.