Planning Commission - 10/26/1987 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, October 26, 1987
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson, Julianne Bye,
Christine Dodge, Doug Fell , Robert Hallett, Charles Ruebling
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior
Planner; Don Uram, Assistant Planner; Sue Anderson,
Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
(7:35) A. MARRIOTT COURTYARD, by Marriott Corporation. Request for Planned
Unit Development Concept Amendment on 109.68 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review on 109.68 acres, with variances, Zoning
District Change from C-Regional to C-Regional-Service on 4.2 acres,
Preliminary Plat of 13.94 acres into 3 lots for construction of a
149-room hotel. Location: East of U.S. Highway #169, north of I-
494, west of Prairie Center Drive, south of Viking Drive. A
continued public hearing.
(8:05) B. KADA, INC. , ADDITION, by Karp 's Twin City Supply Company. Request
for Preliminary Platting of 4.1 acres into 1 lot. Location: North
of Highway #5, south of Martin Drive, west of Mitchell Road. A
public hearing.
(8:20) C. BLUFFS EAST 5TH ADDITION, by Hustad Development Corporation.
Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 17.68
acres, and Preliminary Plat of 30.1 acres into 34 single family
lots, 3 outlots, and road right-of-way. Location: Southeast of
Meade Lane extension, west of Franlo Road, northwest of Antlers
Ridge extension. A public hearing.
(8:50) D. STARRWOOD, Cardarelle & Associates. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 22.4 acres, Preliminary Platting of
29.19 acres into 43 single family lots, 2 outlots, and road right-
of-way. Location: North of Research Road, east of Mitchell Road,
southeast of McCoy Lake. A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER' S REPORT
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
*NOTE: THE TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE TENTATIVE, AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER,
OR LATER, THAN LISTED.
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, October 26, 1987
City Council Chambers
7:30 PM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairman Robert Hallett, Julianne Bye,
Richard Anderson, Douglas Fell, Christine Dodge
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Ed Schuck, Charles Ruebling
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Don Uram,
Assistant Planner; Sue Anderson, Recording
Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Dodge to approve the
agenda as printed.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None
III. MINUTES
Acting Chairman Hallett asked for a motion for approval of
minutes of the October 13 , 1987 meeting. Commissioner Fell
requested a change in the minutes on page 4, paragraph 8, to
read "Commissioner Ruebling remarked, " in lieu of "Commissioner
Fell remarked. "
MOTION:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Fell to approve the
minutes of the October 13, 1987 Planning Commission meeting as
presented and changed.
Motion carried 3-2-0
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. MARRIOTT COURTYARD, by Marriott Corporation. Request for
Planned Unit Development Concept Amendment on 109.68 acres,
Planned Unit Development District Review on 109 . 68 acres,
with variances, Zoning District Change from C-Regional to
C-Regional-Service on 4.2 acres, Preliminary Plat of 13 .94
• acres into 3 lots for construction of a 149-room hotel.
Location: East of U. S. Highway #169, north of I-494, west
of Prairie Center Drive, south of Viking Drive. A continued
public hearing.
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Dale Beckman, representative for the proponent, presented the
massing model, revised architectural elevations on renderings, and
• the design analysis. The design analysis gave the description of
the existing architectural and site elements for the entire
Southwest Crossing Business Park and makes specific recommenda-
tions as to how the Marriott would compatibly fit into this area.
The approval of the Marriott development proposal will affect some
of Vantage's future flexibility on the remaining "for sale" lots in
the park, which will be reflected in the overall design framework
manual that Vantage is working on at this time; such as, pitched
roofs on future buildings to match the same pitch as the proposed
Marriott. After review of the massing model and renderings,
discussion followed.
Director of Planning, Chris Enger, indicated that with the changes
in the details and providing of additional information, the
project conforms to guidelines and recommendations in Staff
Report.
Commissioner Fell asked if Vantage submitted the Design Framework
Manual. Enger responded that Marriott provided a description of
existing architectural and site elements for the entire Southwest
Crossing Business Park and Marriott's compatibility with existing
conditions, but that the DFM was yet to come.
Matt Nichol from Vantage responded that the DFM could be submitted
within four months or prior to next project.
• Commissioner Bye requested a motion to continue the manual
discussion on another agenda or add to old business later in the
meeting. A motion was made to continue this at a later time.
Commissioner Dodge expressed her doubt as to the overall
attractiveness of the building as shown in the massing model and
rendering. ' She was concerned about the stucco material on part of
the building. Proponent presented material samples to further
explain.
Acting Chairman Hallett questioned whether approval of this hotel
would effect a future convention hotel. Would the Marriott
enhance or delay the possibility? Vantage representative stated
the site east of the Marriott is designated high rise development
and the Marriott will enhance not retard the area.
Hallett asked if the area is guaranteed for a convention hotel
or could this site change to an office building? Enger responded
that the property could change. If the office market improved
before a convention hotel, the site would still have the
opportunity to change. Hallett inquired if another site is
available for a convention hotel? Enger responded affirmatively,
several good sites are available within the M.C.A.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Anderson and seconded by Bye to close the
public hearing.
Motion Carried 5-0-0
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MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Anderson and seconded by Bye to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Marriott Corporation
for Planned Unit Development Concept Amendment on 109. 68 acres for
construction of a 149-room hotel, based on plans dated September
14, October 13, 1987, revised plans dated October 26, 1987, and
the Overall Design Framework Manual Summary for the Southwest
Crossing Planned Unit Development Amendment, and subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated October 9, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 3 •
Motion was made by Anderson and seconded by Bye to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Marriott Corporation
for Planned Unit Development District Review on 109. 68 acres,
with variances, and Zoning District Change from C-Regional to
C-Regional-Service on 4.2 acres, for construction of a 149-room
hotel, based on plans dated September 14, October 13, 1987,
revised plans dated October 26, 1987, and the Overall Design
Framework Manual Summary for the Southwest Crossing Planned Unit
Development Amendment, and subject to the recommendations of the
Staff Report dated October 9, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 4:
Motion was made by Anderson, seconded by Bye to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Marriott Corporation for
Preliminary Plat of 13 .94 acres into three lots for construction
of a 149-room hotel, based on plans dated September 14, October
13, 1987, revised plans dated October 26, 1987, and the Overall
Design Framework Manual Summary for the Southwest Crossing Planned
Unit Development Amendment, and subject to the recommendations of
the Staff Report dated October 9, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 5:
Motion made by Anderson, seconded by Bye to recommend the time
frame of four months and prior to another project approval for
Vantage for completion and submission of the Design Framework
Manual.
Motion carried 5-0-0
B. KADA, INC. , ADDITION, by Karp's Twin City Supply Company.
Request for Preliminary Platting of 4. 1 acres into 1 lot.
Location: North of Highway #5, south of Martin Drive, west
• of Mitchell Road. A public hearing.
Modris Fedders, representing the proponent, stated the project is
a very simple addition to an existing building. They will
demolish part of the existing structure and replace with a 4,500
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square foot freezer addition, 31 feet in height. They have met
with City Staff and will incorporate all of the recommendations of
• the Staff Report.
The proponent indicated that the mechanical units for the new
freezer will be located within the structure which will control
any unit noise. The mechanical rooftop equipment units will be
screened with metal panel in accordance with code requirements.
Also, the addition will include one new loading facility door
which will face the interior of the lot.
Uram noted that with this addition, proponent will landscape the
parking area from Highway #5 to demonstrate effective screening
with berms, landscaping, fencing or a combination thereof.
Acting Chairman Hallett stated that the proposal will provide a
better situation than we have at present.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye to close public
hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye to recommend to City
Council approval of the request of Karp's twin City Supply
Company for Preliminary Plat of 4. 1 acres into one lot, to be
known as Kada, Inc. , Addition, based on plans dated September
25, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated October 23, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0
C. BLUFFS EAST 5th ADDITION, by Hustad Development
Corporation. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural
to R1-13.5 on 17.68 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 30.1
acres into 34 single family lots, 3 outlots, and road right-
of-way. Location: Southeast of Meade Lane extension, west
of Franlo Road, northwest of Antlers Ridge extension. A
public hearing.
Bob Smith, representative for proponent, presented the preliminary
plat depicting the subdivision of 30.1 gross acres into 34 single
family lots and three outlots at a net density of 1. 9 dwelling
units per acre. Outlot C, approximately 16 acres, will remain
unzoned, for development in the future. Lot sizes will range from
14, 020 to 30, 660 square feet with an average of 18,937 square
feet. The lots will meet the minimum requirement of the R1-13 .5
zoning district with the exception of Lot 7 and Lot 13 , Block 1,
which have been revised to meet the minimum street frontage
requirements of 55 and 85 feet, respectively. Outlot B is
proposed as a sign location and will be maintained by the
Homeowners' Association.
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•
Proponent explained the grading proposed is consistent with the
mass grading plan of the approved PUD. Fill in the upper portions
of the ravine will not result in the loss of any significant trees
of twelve inches or greater in size. The amount.-of fill proposed
is minimal compared with the total length of the ravine. No
stormwater run-off is proposed to drain into either ravine. The
regraded areas along the ravine were proposed at 2/1 slopes,
however to help minimize erosion and per Staff Report, the slopes
will be decreased to 2 .5/1 and a fiber blanket with a deep seed
mixture will be utilized to stabilize the slopes after regrading.
A grading plan will be submitted to reflect the decreased slopes.
Don Uram, Assistant Planner, stated the project is consistent with
the PUD Bluff Country Developer' s Agreement previously approved;
however, plans shall be revised in accordance with the list of --
recommendations by Alan Gray, City Engineer, regarding drainage
in the area.
Concern has been raised regarding the grading of lots adjacent to
Purgatory Creek. City policy currently requires all lots to be
graded concurrent with street construction. Revised grading plan
shall be submitted reflecting lot grading. .
• Acting Chairman Hallett felt the proposal has a lot of loose ends
to take care of before approaching City Council. The grading
proposal should be approved by Planning Commission in order for
City Council to approve street, traffic, and drainage proposals.
The proposal should come back before the Planning Commission for
further review based on revised plans. The Commission should be
concerned with street frontage, tree replacement, grading plan
per City Engineer, and sidewalks.
Fell inquired as to soil report. Enger responded that soil report
indicated the area is sandy salt with very little top soil, which
was the cause of the wash out in the 60 's . Developer will
reconstruct washed out area.
Fell questioned the traffic increase on Pioneer Trail and Homeward
Hills Road, and if traffic lights are needed. Enger responded that
traffic was evaluated and the Ctiy will check back on this after
the project has been constructed to study warraht of a signal at that
intersection.
Wallace Hustad, Developer, stated to the Commission that the
Developer and the City have had meetings on this project and
have resolved the majority of issues. However, specific
technical issues remain which require solution by the Engineer-
ing Department.
•
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Fell agreed with Staff, but feels technical review should be by
the Planning Commission rather than at City Council meeting. If it
can be resolved, Staff should present it to Planning Commission.
Enger responded that its down to one item which is grade the creek
lots now or later.
Acting Chairman Hallett felt that due to the difference of
opinions on this matter, perhaps Commission was comfortable with
City Engineer's expertise and would depend on recommendations
presented.
In response to Chairman's request for audience comments, David J.
Keller of 10749 Grant Drive, responded that he lives at Third
Avenue and his backyard is a wet pond. He questioned if the
proposal will replace it with a dry pond due to the grading. And
if so, will it deal with the aesthetics in the area, as collection
of debris and the rain combined are unsightly.
Proponent responded that the actual pond has not been designed,
but the design will respond to neighborhood concerns. Keller
responded this answered his question.
Upon no other audience participation, Acting Chairman Hallett
. moved for motion to close public hearing.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Dodge to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Dodge to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Hustad Development
Corporation for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13 .5 on
17 .68 acres, to be known as Bluffs East 5th Addition, based on
plans dated September 25, 1987, subject to the recommendations
of the Staff Report dated October 23, 1987 ,and shall present
revised grading plAn as determined by additions adjacent to Lots
1-7 .
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Dodge to recommend to
• the City Council approval of the request of Hustad Development
Corporation for Preliminary Plat of 30. 1 acres into 34 single
family lots, three outlots, and road right-of-way, to be known
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• as Bluffs East 5th Addition, based on plans dated September 25 ,
1987 , subject to recommendations of the Staff Report dated
October 23 , 1987 , and as amended by the previous motion.
Motion carried--5-0-0
D. STARRWOOD, Cardarelle & Associates. Request for Zoning
District Change from Rural to R1-13. 5 on 22 .4 acres,
Preliminary Platting of 29 .19 acres into 43 single family
lots, 2 outlots , and road right-of-way. Location: North of
Research Road, east of Mitchell Road, southeast of McCoy
Lake. A public hearing.
Frank Cardarelle, proponent representative, indicated on plat the
43 lots proposed within the subdivision at a gross density of 1.47
units per acre on the north side of Starring Lake containing 29 .19
acres of rolling land. Lot sizes range from a maximum of 47 ,607
to a--minimum of 13 ,502 square feet with an average lot size of
18,399 square feet, of which all meet the minimum requirements of
the R1-13.5 Zoning District.
Proponent further explained that hard surface roads and curbs have
been petitioned. They have a letter from Merle Gamm supporting
this . Outlot A, containing seven (7) acres will either be dedicated
to the City or the Homeowners ' Association.
Uram indicated that this site would be accessed by a loop road off
Research Road. A total of 29 lots would-be served by the
extension of Flesher Circle. In order for Flesher Circle to meet
City standards, the bubble serving Lots 4 , 5 , and 6, Block 2 , will
be redesigned requiring the tapering of the bubble to an eyebrow
shape. Access to western portion of the site would be by an
additional cul-de-sac extending from Mitchell Road and serving ten
single family lots. Direct access to Mitchell Road is provided
by a roadway easement on the Guille property. This easement shall
be recorded concurrent with the final plat.
Uram further stated the tree replacement policy would require a
total of 297 caliper inches of plant material be replaced on the
site. The proponent indicated there are a number of evergreen
trees on the property which may be transplanted. Suitable trees
may be transplanted subject to inspection by the City Forester.
Uram commented that due to the location of this project between
McCoy Lake and Starring Lake, this will be the first section of
the Chain-bf-Lakes project which is being proposed by the Riley-
Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District as petitioned by the
City of Eden Prairie.
Uram pointed out that the Staff recommends the following:
• 1. Concurrent with final plat, proponent may dedicate Outlot B
to the City for conservation purposes or retain in a Homeowners '
Association, outlot with a trail easement to the City.
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2. Concurrent with final plat, proponent shall record the roadway
• easement for the construction of Starrwood Circle.
3 . Prior to the release of the final plat, the proponent shall
enter into a special assessment agreement with the City of Eden
Prairie for the upgrading of Research Road and Mitchell Road.
Acting Chairman Hallett asked if anyone in the audience would like
to speak.
Hallett asked Staff if the trail around McCoy Lake will be built
before the homeowners can say no to it? Uram responded that it
is not possible at this time, however, this matter will go to Parks
and Recreation Commission.
Arthur B. Weeks, 8789 Sycamore Court, had a question regarding the
type of housing planned for the area as to what price range the
development is talking. Proponent advised they anticipate homes
in the range of $200,000 to $300,000.
Weeks also inquired as to the cut off from Sycamore and Research
Road with type of houses presently there. Proponent said
basically a price range has been set in that area, and additional
homes will be comparable.
No further questions were asked by audience and Acting Chairman
Hallett requested a motion to close public hearing.
• MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Fell to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 2 •
Motion was made by Bye and seconded by Fell to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Cardarelle & Associates
for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13 .5 for 22 .4
acres, to be known as Starrwood, based on revised plans dated
October 19, 1987, subject to the recommendations>of the Staff
Report dated October 23, 1987, subject to the Staff Report of
October 23, 1987 .
Motion carried 5-0-0
MOTION 3 :
Motion was made by Bye and Seconded by Fell to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Cardarelle & Associates
for Preliminary Plat of 29. 19 acres into 43 single family lots, '
two lots, and road right-of-way, to be known as Starrwood, based
. on revised plans dated October 19, 1987, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated October 23 , 1987 .
Motion carried 5-0-0
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V. OLD BUSINESS
• Hallett inquired of Staff about the parking lot at Wilson Learning
Center that is totally visible violating City regulations. Enger
responded that trees planted have proven ineffective and there was
not enough room to allow berming. City Staff is currently
reviewing the situation.
Enger added that the loading dock at that location is being
screened a new way with masonry and fence and the results were
very satisfactory. If Commission members are in the vicinity they
should observe this.
Dodge inquired to Staff of letter mentioned at the September 28
meeting that was to be sent to Commission which was never
received. Hallett added a recommendation was made that you send a
copy to members.
Enger responded this was an oversight and the letter would be
forwarded to all members.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
Dodge requested that Staff please notify by phone or separate
letter, of any meetings beside regular Commission meeting, such as
the October 14th meeting.
Enger responded that this will be forwarded to Staff and request
• will be acted upon.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
Enger reported on strategic planning consultant. He has been
hired to discover policy and how everything works. He will be
here for two months and City hopes to obtain better communica-
tion, and goal setting with Council in discussion, not just
mentioning the goals. To obtain guidelines, goals and objectives,
the strategic plan will aid us in understanding the dynamics.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 9:46 PM. Motion was made by Dodge,
seconded by Fell.
Motion carried 5-0-0
Respectfully submitted,
Sue Masear Anderson