Planning Commission - 07/27/1987 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
• Monday, July 27, 1987
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson, Julianne Bye,
Christine Dodge, Doug Fell, Robert Hallett, Charles Ruebling
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior
Planner; Don Uram, Assistant Planner; Ann Kenyon, Recording
Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
(7:35) A. WYNDHAM CREST, by Burl Corporation. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 19.9 acres, Preliminary Plat of 27.9
acres into 25 single family lots, 1 outlot, and road right-of-way.
Location: West of Purgatory Creek, east of Tristram Way. A
continued public hearing.
(8:00) B. SOUTHWEST CROSSING II, by Vantage Companies. Request for Planned
Unit Development, Concept Amendment on 109.68 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review on 109.68 acres with variances for
building height, Zoning District Change from Commercial Regional to
Office on 5 .13 acres and Board of Appeals variances for Shoreland
setback, building height, impervious surface, and impervious surface
below the high water mark of Smetana Lake for the construction of a
247,000 square foot office building. Location: North of Viking
Drive, and south of Smetana Lake. A continued public hearing.
(9:00) C. DATASERV, by Opus Corporation. Request for Planned Unit Development
Concept Amendment on 17.4 acres, Zoning District Change from Rural
to I-2 on approximately 1.5 acres for the construction of an
additional parking area for the existing Datasery Headquarters.
Location: East of the intersection of Technology Drive and Prairie
Center Drive. A public hearing.
(9:10) D. FOUNTAIN PLACE, by CSM Corporation. Request for Comprehensive Guide
Plan Amendment from Regional Commercial to High Density Residential
on 8 acres and from Public Open Space to High Density Residential on
4.5 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept Review on approximately
52 acres, Planned Unit Development District Review and Zoning
District Change from Rural to RM-2.5 on 29.3 acres with variances,
Preliminary Plat of approximately 52 acres into 4 lots, 1 outlot,
and road right-of-way, and Environmental Assessment Worksheet Review
for construction of a 490-unit apartment project. Location: West
of Highway #169, north of Columbine Road. A public hearing.
Agenda
Monday, July 27, 1987
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V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER' S REPORT
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
*NOTE: THE TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE TENTATIVE, AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER,
OR LATER, THAN LISTED.
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MINI 'ES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLAISIMU COMMISSION
Monday, July 27, 1987
City Council Chambers
7:30 p.m.
MD BERS PRESENT: Julianne Bye, Christine Dodge, Douglas Fell,
Robert Hallett, Charles Ruebling
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson
STAFF PRESENT: Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Ann Kenyon, Recording
Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
�MON:
Motion was made and seconded to approve the agenda as printed.
Motion carried 5-0-0
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
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III. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. WYNDHAM CREST, by Burl Corporation. Request for zoning
District ge from Rural to R1-13.5 on 19.9 acres,
Preliminary Plat of 27.9 acres into 25 single family lots, 1
outlot, and road right-of-way. Location: West"of Purgatory
Creek, east of Tristram Way. A continued public hearing.
Planner Franzen introduced Peter Bishop representing the Burl
Corporation and explained that t-tis item was continued from the
. June 22 meeting. At that time the Planning Commission asked the
developer to provide additional information in several areas,
including the possibility of a through-road connection to
Chennaultway, the development of lots adjacent to the floodplain,
and a plan which would save more of the existing trees. Nx. Bishop
reported on what they had done to address the recommendations of the
Commission. Franzen stated that after examining the soil and
topographic information given to staff by the developer, the City
Engineer did not recommended the through-street.
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Developer showed the Commission a plan where the tree loss can be
reduced from 687 to 26% by the extensive use of retaining walls on
the individual lots. Planner Franzen indicated when the City
Forester was consulted, he moved the tree loss up to 32%. The
developer must provide a detailed plan of the proposed retaining
walls and bond covering 150% of the cost of the construction.
Planner Franzen stated that with regard to the 100 year floodplain,
the basement floor has to be 1 foot about this. In the recent rain,
the water rose above that level. The developer was asked to take a
closer look at the 3 lots to see if they could be raised up a little
higher. Franzen recommended approval of this project based on the
revised plan that was presented here tonight and the additional
recommendations that were in the Staff Report.
Bye asked where the storm water run off was going to be. Bishop
stated that they are two feet above the recommendation. All the
disturbed area will be graded and a filter fence will be installed
all around the area. This will be done during construction and
developer will make sure this is in operation at all times. Franzen
asked if it were possible to run an overland swale in the basin
area. Bishop said that provisions have been made where the water
will overflow in the streets. Hallett suggested that Staff take
pictures so they have an idea what the lots looked like after the
recent rain storm and have some idea where the water line was. Then
the purchasers of the property would know there is a potential for
flooding before it is developed.
• MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Fell, seconded by Bye, to close the public
hearing. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Burl Corporation for Zoning
District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 19.9 acres for Wyndham
Crest, based on revised plans dated July 23, 1987, subject to the
recommendation of the Staff Reports dated July 24, and June 22, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Burl Corporation for
Preliminary Plat of 27.9 acres into 25 single family lots, one
outlot, and road right-of-way, based on revised plans dated July 23,
1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Reports dated July
24, and June 22, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
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B. SOUTHWEST CROSSING II, by Vantage Companies. Request for
Planned Unit Development Concept Amendment on 109.68 acres,
Planned Unit Development District Review on 109.68 acres with
variances for building height, Zoning District Change from
Commercial Regional to Office on 5.13 acres and Board of
Appeals variances for Shoreland setback, building height,
impervious surface, and impervious surface below the high water
mark of Smetana Lake for the construction of a 247,000 square
foot office building. Location: North of Viking Drive, and
south of Smetana Lake. A continued public hearing.
Dale Beckman of BRW gave a brief overview of the Southwest Crossing
II project indicating that the developer wants to create a campus
image with the lake at the entrance of the building. He had a model
showing where the front side of the parking lot will not be visible.
Franzen asked Matt Nicoll to focus on the recommendations listed in
the Staff Report. Developer said they had no problem with the
recommendations except with the total site FAR for the 109-acre PUD
not exceeding 0.34, restrictions on impervious surface, and
conservancy restrictions. They will have a little trouble with this
and would like some flexibility.
Hallett asked for comments. Ruebling expressed concern about the
traffic situation. The study that was done just deals with Phase II
• and doesn't take into consideration full development. He asked
specifically what level of service the intersection of Prairie
Center Drive and Viking Drive is at full development. Franzen said
the MCA traffic study is being updated. When this is complete, we
will have a better handle on what the traffic is and what
improvements will be necessary. The new study will be complete in
30-60 days and will be distributed to the Planning Commission and
the City Council.
Dodge suggested that the City Attorney be asked to address the
restrictive covenants including FAR, conservancy and impervious
surface. Franzen stated that the City Attorney can work with
Vantage on this.
Bye expressed concern that the parking areas will not be screened
properly. Fell would like to see more evergreens for better year
round screening adding that he would like to see a revised plan
before sending this item to the City Council. Fell also asked about
the long term parking ramp maintenance, and are guidelines or is
this left up to the developer? Franzen suggested talking to the
cities of Minneapolis and Bloomington who have had a lot of
experience in this area. Fell wondered if we were setting a
precedent on the height of the buildings. Franzen stated that the
City Council has approved the Wilson Learning Center which is 18
feet higher than this building.
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Hallett asked if employees will be able to walk completely around
Smetana Lake. Franzen indicated that the Parks Commission will
review this and determine if a walkway should go around the lake.
Hallett asked what percentage of the present building is occupied. -
7070.
Ruebling indicated that the restrictive covenants should also
include a provision to guarantee the average shoreland setback off
200 feet and setbacks from the creek as shown on the approved plan.
Matt Nicoll asked the Planning Commission if they could make the
screening of the parking lot, review of restrictive covenants and
traffic as a prior to Council review condition. Commissioners Dodge
and Bye indicated that they were uncomfortable approving the project
without first knowing if it is possible to screen the parking lot
from I-494.
Motion was made by Bye to continue this to the August loth Planning
Commission meeting subject to a revised plan which screens parking
from I-494, a review of restrictive covenant including shoreland
setback, FAR, impervious surface and conservancy areas by the City
Attorney's office and provision of more information on traffic.
Ruebling seconded the motion. Motion carried 5-0-0.
C. DATASERV, by Opus Corporation. Request for Planned Unit
Development Concept Amendment on 17.4 acres, Zoning District
• Change from Rural to I-2 on approximately 1.5 acres for the
construction of an additional parking area for the existing
Datasery Headquarters. Location: East of the intersection of
Technology Drive and Prairie Center Drive. A public hearing.
John McKenzie of Datasery explained that due to recent relocation of
employees, the present parking facilities are not adequate. The
proposal is for a temporary parking lot which will eventually lead
to permanent parking as part of Phase II development. Fell asked
what our ordinance is for parking. Franzen stated it is based on
square footage rather than the number of people. Five spaces are
needed per 1,000 sq.ft. Franzen recommended approval of according
to the staff recommendations.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to close the public
hearing. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Dodge, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Opus Corporation for Planned Unit
Development Concept Amendment on 17.4 acres for the Datasery
Headquarters, based on plans dated June 23, 1987, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated July 24, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
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MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Dodge, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Opus Corporation for Zoning
District Change from Rural to I-2 on approximately 1.5 acres for
construction of an additional parking area for DataSery
Headquarters, based on plans dated June 23, 1987, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated July 24, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
D. FOUNTAIN PLACE, by CSM Corporation. Request for Comprehensive
Guide Plan Amendment from Regional Commercial to High Density
Residential on 8 acres and from Public Open Space to High
Density Residential on 4.5 acres, Planned Unit Development
Concept Review on approximately 52 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review and Zoning District Change from
Rural to RM-2.5 on 29.3 acres with variances, Preliminary Plat
of approximately 52 acres into 4 lots, 1 outlot, and road
right-of-way, and Environmental Assessment Worksheet Review for
construction of a 490-unit apartment project. Location: West
of Highway #169, north of Columbine Road. A public hearing.
The developer described briefly the plans for the project including
variances, a guide plan amendment from regional commercial and open
• space to high density residential to allow for development of 490
apartment units. The ordinance calls for 757. brick. The design of
these 4-story buildings is 627 brick. He stated they are asking for
the variance because they have come up with such a good looking
building and would not like to see it go to a 4-story all brick-
building. He asked the Planning Commission to consider this even
though the ordinance calls for 75% brick.
Hallett stated the ordinance is at 75% because of maintenance.
Hallett commented that Staff tends to support apartments in the
city. Approval has been give for 2,000 units in the last three
years. Bye asked if the Commission wanted to send a directive to
the City Council on the 75% brick issue. Hallett answered, yes.
Dodge again expressed concern about the maintenance of the building.
Franzen said a traffic review was done and Columbine Road will be
extended to Prairie Center Drive.
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Fell asked about public safety. The fire marshal and the police
have an interest in larger complexes in the parking lot lighting,
etc. Developer said they had consulted the fire marshal but not the
police. Hallett thought it was a good idea to have the police take
a look at more properties for safety issues and lighting.
YOrION 1:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye, to close the public
hearing. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Dodge to recommend to the City Council approval
of the request of CSM Corporation for Fountain Place for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Regional Commercial to High
Density Residential on eight acres and from Public Open Space to
High Density Residential on 4.5 acres, based on plans dated June 26,
1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated July
24, 1987 and subject to a minimum of 6% increase in brick. Motion
seconded by Fell. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of CSM Corporation for Fountain
Place for Planned Unit Development Concept of approximately 52
. acres, based on plans dated June 26, 1987, subject to the
recommendation of the Staff Report dated July 24, 1987.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 4:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of CSM Corporation fqr Fountain
Place for Planned Unit Development District Review with variances
and Zoning District Change from rural to B11-2.5 on 29.3 acres, based
on plans dated June 26, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the
Staff Report dated July 24, 1987. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 5:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of CSM Corporation for Fountain
Place for Preliminary Plat of approximately 52 acres into four lots,
one outlot, and road right-of-way, based on plans dated June 26,
1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated July
24, 1987. Motion carried 5-0-0.
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MOTION 6:
Motion was made by Dodge, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council a finding of no significant impact for CSM Corporation for
Fountain Place, based on the Environmental Assessment Worksheet
dated June 26, 1987. Motion carried 5-0-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
Fell inquired as to how the city staff currently reviews parking
ramps. He indicated that standards should be established. The city
should also be looking at the long term maintenance of the parking
ramps in the city. This is a most important issue.
Bye moved to recommend this to the city. Ruebling seconded the
motion. Motion carried 5-0-0.
Hallett asked about the path around Smetana. Lake.
Bye moved to recommend to the Parks Commission a walk way around
Smetana Lake with potential connection to other projects in the
area. Ruebling seconded the motion. Motion carried 5-0-0.
• Dodge asked about guide plan changes and could a review of the guide
plan change as it affects the comprehensive guide plan balance be
included as a standard item in the Staff Report.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
None.
VIII. ADJOLW MM
Motion to adjourn was made by Bye, seconded by Fell. Meeting
adjourned at 11:15 p.m.