Planning Commission - 05/11/1987 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, May 11, 1987
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson, Julianne Bye,
Christine Dodge, Doug Fell, Robert Hallett, Charles Ruebling
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior
Planner; Don Uram, Assistant Planner; Kate Karnas,
Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
(7:35) A. BLOSSOM RIDGE ADDITION, by G.W. Pearson. Request for Zoning
District Change from R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 1.98 acres, Preliminary
Plat of 3.07 acres into 5 single family lots and road right-of-way.
Location: South of Blossom Road, east of Bennett Place. A public
hearing.
(7:50) B. JAY WALLACE ADDITION, by Jay Wallace. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 1.23 acres, Preliminary Plat of 1.43
acres into 2 single family lots and road right-of-way. Location:
East of Franlo Road, north of Laurel Drive. A public hearing.
(8:30) C. PRAIRIE BLUFF SUBDIVISION, by Cardarelle & Associates, Inc. Request
for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on approximately
7.4 acres and Preliminary Plat of 8.5 acres into 17 single family
lots, 2 outlots, and road right-of-way. Location: South of Pioneer
Trail, west of County Road #18, east of Franlo Park. A public
hearing.
(9:15) D. THE RIDGE 3RD ADDITION, by Dirlam Development. Request for Zoning
District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 3 acres, and from R1-22 to
R1-13.5 on 3.36 acres, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of
Appeals, Preliminary Plat of 24.1 acres into 13 single family lots,
1 outlot, and road right-of-way. Location: North of Highway #5,
south of Eileen Street, west of Kilmer Avenue. A public hearing.
(9:45) E. THE RIDGE 2ND ADDITION, by Dirlam Development. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Industrial to Low Density
Residential on 6.7 acres and from Public Open Space to Low Density
Residential on 12.2 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept
Amendment on 41.5 acres, Planned Unit Development District Review on
41.5 acres with Zoning District Change from I-Gen to R1-13.5 on 37.7
acres with variances, Preliminary Plat of 41.5 acres into 70 single
family lots, one outlot, and road right-of-way. Location: West of
Evener Way, South of the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific
Railroad. A public hearing.
Agenda
May 11, 1987
P age Two
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII . PLANNER' S REPORT
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
*NOTE: THE TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE TENTATIVE, AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER,
OR LATER, THAN LISTED.
i MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, May 11, 1987
City Council Chambers
7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ed Schuck, Rich Anderson, Julianne Bye, Douglas
Fell, Robert Hallett (8:00 p.m.), Chuck Ruebling
MEMBER ABSENT: Christine Dodge
STAFF PRESENT: Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Donald R. Uram, Assistant
Planner; Kate Karnas, Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Motion was made by Ruebling, seconded by Fell , to approve the agenda as
• printed.
Motion carried--4-0-0
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
(Chairman Schuck arrived at 7:35 p.m.)
III. MINUTES
MOTION:
Motion was made by Ruebling, seconded by Anderson, to approve the minutes of
the April 27, 1987, Planning Commission meeting with the following
correction: Page 7, Motion #2 for Faith Church of the Nazarene, the vote
should read 116-1-0 (Anderson against) ."
Motion carried--4-0-1 (Chairman Schuck abstained)
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. BLOSSOM RIDGE ADDITION, by G. W. Pearson. Request for Zoning
District Change from R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 1.98 acres, Preliminary
Plat of 3.07 acres into 5 single family lots and road right-of-way.
• Location: South of Blossom Road, east of Bennett Place. A public
hearing.
Planner Uram explained that this was basically a housekeeping item. He
noted that the Commission had previously reviewed and recommended for
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approval of this item, with less acreage overall, subject to the condition
that plans be made for extension of the road to adjacent properties.
Planner Uram stated that the proponent had been able to add property to the
original Blossom Ridge development in order to accomplish this. However, it
was necessary that rezoning take place on this additional property in order
that it be compatible with the rest of the development.
Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of G. W. Pearson for Zoning District Change
from R1-22 to R1-11,5 for 1.98 acres, based on plans dated April 30, 1987,
subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of G. W. Pearson for Preliminary Plat of
3.07 acres into five single family lots, based on plans dated April 30,
1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
B. JAY WALLACE ADDITION, by Jay Wallace. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 1.23 acres, Preliminary Plat of 1.43
acres into 2 single family lots and road right-of-way. Location:
East of Franlo Road, north of Laurel Drive. A public hearing.
Mr. Wallace reviewed the proposed development with the Commission. He
stated that he had no objections to any of the recommendations within the
Staff Report regarding the development. Mr. Wallace stated that there was
one remaining challenge for the property involving accommodation of storm
water drainage in the area. He added that he was working with the City
Staff to resolve this situation.
Planner Franzen stated that the major concern of Staff was the storm water
drainage, but that he was confident that- it could be resolved. He pointed
• out that it would be necessary, also to raise the lowest floor elevations of
the proposed structures in order to prevent the structures from any possible
water damage. Planner Franzen stated that this appeared to be a situation
which could be resolved prior to City Council review. He also commented
that Mr. Wallace had designed the plan to save as many trees as possible on
the property.
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Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 2•
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell , to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Jay Wallace for Zoning District Change from Rural
to R1-13.5 for 1.23 acres for the Jay Wallace Addition based on plans dated
April 24, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May
8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 3:
• Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell , to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Jay Wallace for Preliminary Plat of 1.43 acres
into two single family lots, for the Jay Wallace Addition based on plans
dated April 24, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
C. PRAIRIE BLUFF SUBDIVISION, by Cardarelle & Associates, Inc. Request
for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on approximately
7.4 acres and Preliminary Plat of 8.5 acres into 17 single family
lots, 2 outlots, and road right-of-way. Location: South of Pioneer
Trail, west of County Road #18, east of Franlo Park. A public
hearing.
Mr. Frank Cardarelle, proponent, stated that - he had reviewed the
recommendations of the Staff Report regarding this project and that he had
no objections to any of the conditions listed. He stated that, with respect
to storm water drainage, he had petitioned the City for a feasibility study
to deal with this, and that he would continue to work with the City
Engineering Department to resolve the matter.
Mr. Cardarelle stated that Pemtom would be the builder of the homes in this
proposed development.
Planner Franzen that this development was part of the overall Bluff Area
• storm water drainage system, involving approximately 1,000 acres of
property. He stated that the other major concern about the proposed
development was the access to the north to County Road K. Planner Franzen
reported that this matter had been discussed in detail with the City
Engineering Department and that they had determined that a temporary access
in this location would be acceptable.
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With respect to the storm water drainage issue, Planner Franzen stated that
there were two ponds which currently served the area; however, it would be
necessary to determine how much water was being directed to the ponds as it
was already known that there were piping restrictions in this area. He
stated that it was Staff's recommendation that the project not be allowed to
proceed without the storm water drainage solution.
Regarding sidewalks and trails, Planner Franzen stated that, with the
extension of Franlo Road, there should be extension of the bituminous trail
on the east side and sidewalk on the west side of the Franlo Road, together
with sidewalk on Lee Drive to connect to existing sidewalk on Lee Drive and
the overall trail/sidewalk system in the area.
Ruebling asked what type of delays would be caused by the storm water
drainage study. Planner Franzen stated that it was possible that it could
be completed without any delay to the developer and that the storm water
drainage improvements could be constructed at the same time as street
construction for the property. Ruebling asked if it would be possible to
have the study completed prior to second reading of the ordinance for
rezoning on the property. Planner Franzen stated that it was.
Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
• audience. There were none.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Cardarelle & Associates for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 7.4 acres for Prairie Bluffs, based on plans
dated April 7, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell , to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Cardarelle & Associates for Preliminary Plat of
8.5 acres into 17 single family lots and two outlots for Prairie Bluffs,
based on plans dated April 7, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the
Staff Report dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
D. THE RIDGE 3RD ADDITION, by Dirlam Development. Request for Zoning
District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 3 acres, and from R1-22 to
R1-13.5 on 3.36 acres, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of
Appeals, Preliminary Plat of 24.1 acres into 13 single family lots,
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1 outlot, and road right-of-way. Location: North of Highway #5,
south of Eileen Street, west of Kilmer Avenue. A public hearing.
Mr. Dennis Dirlam, proponent, reviewed the proposed development with the
Commission, explaining the locations of existing sanitary sewer, storm
sewer, and watermain connections which would result from connecting to other
subdivisions in the area. He explained that the Pauly house, currently
located on Highway #5, was also part of this subdivision, noting that
alternate access would be provided for the Pauly house to the street to be
built as part of this development.
Mr. Dirlam explained that the variances requested were for Lots 2 and 3 of
the proposed development and that they were being requested due to the
unusual shape of the lots.
Planner Uram reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report
of May 8, 1987, with the Commission. He noted that a letter from the
Minnesota Department of Transportation (MNDOT), which indicated that the
state would be requesting a portion of the property for additional right-of-
way for Highway #5 for the 1991 scheduled upgrading of that road. Planner
Uram stated that noise impact on the subdivision from Highway #5 was another
consideration during the review of the proposed development. He stated that
• MNDOT had completed such a study and would be working with the developer to
mitigate the effect of highway noise on the development.
With respect to the wetland along the west portion of the development,
Planner Uram explained that it was part of a protected wetland that was
approximately 60 acres in size. The proponents would be preserving this
area and that the eight-foot wide bituminous trail at the perimeter of the
wetland would connect to a trail around the entire wetland eventually.
Regarding the requested variances, Planner Uram stated that the requests
appeared justified due to the grades of the property, location of the road,
and the' shape of the properties, Staff was supporting variances, instead.
Planner Uram stated that Staff was also recommending elimination of the
access to Highway #5 for the Pauly house and provision of access to the
street within the subdivision, along with buffering of the homes along
Highway #5 from traffic noise.
Planner Uram noted that tree replacement would be necessary for the proposed
development, as well, for approximately 242 caliper inches of trees to be
removed as part of the construction of the development.
Fell asked if the noise study indicated any adverse impact on the
subdivision. Planner Uram stated that MNDOT had completed the study and
that mitigative measures were suggested, including a ten-foot wall, ,or berm,
to eliminate noise. He stated that he expected an exact solution would be
. available prior to Council review of the proposed development. He added
that the some of the trees to be replaced on the property as part of the
City's tree replacement policy would located adjacent to Highway #5 for the
purpose of buffering from the noise from traffic.
Fell asked if the noise study took into account that traffic would be
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increasing in this area in the future due to development in the area.
Planner Uram explained that the figures of traffic used in the study were
1990 traffic projections.
Bye asked if Mrs. Pauly was aware that her access to Highway #5 would be
eliminated as part of this development. Mr. Dirlam responded that she was
aware of this and that she had already expressed concern about the
difficulty of her current access to Highway #5.
Ruebling asked about the location of the trail on the property. Mr. Dirlam
responded that the trail would be located at least two feet above the normal
high water mark of the wetland area as was done for the other developments
adjacent to the wetland. He noted that it appeared that the trail would
also be far enough away from the homes of the subdivision to allow the
future residents to maintain their privacy, as well .
Ms. Barb Johnson, 7660 Atherton Way, asked about the location of the lots
with respect to the wetland area. She indicated that she was concerned that
the development not encroach upon the wetland area. Mr. Dirlam explained
the location of the homes and lots on the property and showed her the plans.
MOTION 1:
• Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Dirlam Development for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 3.36 acres for The Ridge 3rd Addition, with
variances to be reviewed by the Board of Appeals, based on plans dated April
13, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 8,
1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Dirlam Development for Preliminary Plat
of 24.1 acres into 13 single family lots and one outlot for The Ridge 3rd
Addition, based on plans dated April 13, 1987, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 8, 1987.
Motion carried--5-0-0
(Hallett arrived at 8:15 p.m.)
• E. THE RIDGE 2ND ADDITION, by Dirlam Development. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Industrial to Low Density
Residential on 6.7 acres and from Public Open Space to Low Density
Residential on 12.2 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept
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Amendment on 41.5 acres, Planned Unit Development District Review on
41.5 acres with Zoning District Change from I-Gen to R1-13.5 on 37.7
acres with variances, Preliminary Plat of 41.5 acres into 70 single
family lots, one outlot, and road right-of-way. Location: West of
Evener Way, South of the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific
Railroad. A public hearing.'
Planner Uram explained that during review of this proposal, it became
apparent that utility connections would need to be revised in order to
service the development properly. He stated that the proponent would be
amending this plan and that the main reason for the Commission's
consideration at this meeting was to determine whether there were any
additional items which should be revised prior to the next meeting on the
proposal .
Mr. Dirlam explained the utility situation in greater detail and stated that
he believed these issues could be resolved soon. He indicated that one
method of servicing the property would be to petition the City for extension
of Evener Way further west in order to service the site.
Planner Uram stated that there were several other details to work out with
the proponent, including the trail to be located along the wetland perimeter
and minimum lot frontages on some of the lots.
Ruebling asked if any problems were anticipated due to future traffic on
Highway #5 along the south property line. Planner Uram stated that none
were anticipated. He added that the proponent was completing a traffic
study at this time.
Hallett asked about the potential for abandonment of the railroad along the
north property line. Planner Uram stated that the last information from the
railroad was that it would remain in use for the time being.
Hallett asked about the continuation of the trail around the wetland area to
meet the segments of trail already in place and planned for this area.
Planner Uram stated that the trail would be connected and continued around
the perimeter of the wetland, as planned.
Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Fell, to continue to the May 26, 1987,
Planning Commission meeting pending completion of revisions to the plans as
discussed.
Motion carried--6-0-0
• V. OLD BUSINESS
None.
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VI. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
None.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Bye, seconded by Anderson. Chairman Schuck
adjourned the meeting at 8:35 p.m.