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Planning Commission - 02/11/1985 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, February 11, 1985 School Board Meeting Room 7:30 p.m. COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Administrative Assistant Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. MEMBERS REPORTS III. MINUTES IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. RESEARCH FARM ADDITION, by Northrup King. Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Sports Center, Low Density Residential and High Density Residential to Regional Commercial, Office, Industrial, and Multiple Residential for 189+ acres. Location: West of Highway #169, at Anderson Lakes Parkway. A continued public hearing. V. OLD BUSINESS VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Proposed Amendments to R1-13.5 and R1-9.5 Districts VII. PLANNER'S REPORT VIII. ADJOURNMENT . MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, February 11, 1985 School Board Meeting Room 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen MEMBERS ABSENT: Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Administrative Assistant Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Marhula, to adopt the agenda as printed. Motion carried--5-0-0 II. MEMBERS REPORTS None. III. MINUTES MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Marhula, to approve the minutes of the January 25, 1985, Planning Commission meeting as printed. Motion carried--4-0-1 (Johannes abstained) IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. RESEARCH FARM ADDITION, by Northrup King. Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Sports Center, Low Density Residential and High Density Residential to Regional Commercial, Office, Industrial, and Multiple Residential for 189+ acres. Location: West of Highway #169, at Anderson Lakes Parkway.— A continued public hearing. Planner Enger stated that at its January 25, 1985, the Commission directed the proponent to revise the Comprehensive Guide Plan request to conform to Alternative #3 of the Staff Report of January 22, 1985, with modifications as outlined in the minutes of that meeting. Planning Commission Minutes 2 February 11, 1985 During discussions with the proponent after the January 25, 1985, meeting, Staff was informed that proponents were returning to their original proposal, which involved industrial guiding for the property south of Anderson Lakes Parkway and which would decrease the amount of multi-family residential for the remainder of the property. Staff was told that a single buyer was interested in purchasing all of the property south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. A general development plan was not envisioned by the buyer at this time, and Staff inquired whether, or not, the proponent would be willing to structure specific restrictions, in a form similar to a design framework manual, which would direct the future development in a low intensity fashion. As of the time of the meeting, no such restrictions had been submitted by the proponent. Mr. Ed Roessler, Northrup King, stated that Mr. Douglas Skanse of the Douglas Corporation, was the person interested in purchasing the portion of the property south of Anderson Lakes Parkway and that they would be willing to answer any questions the Commission may have regarding the proposal . Mr. Richard Putnam, Tandem Corporation, representing the proponent, stated that proponents had presented Alternative #3 for the proposed Comprehensive Guide Plan Change to the potential buyers of the property. The potential buyers had found the proposal unacceptable for their purposes and requested • proponents to return to their original proposal for change to the Comprehensive Guide Plan. Mr. Putnam stated that the plan was now the same as before, with a large industrial area south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. He responded to the concern stated at the previous Planning Commission meeting regarding maintaining the residential character of Anderson Lakes Parkway. Mr. Putnam stated that the road was cut lower than the surrounding properties for the majority of its length through this project. Also, the road could be landscaped and designed much like Mitchell Road south of Highway #5, or like City West Parkway. He stated that the views from Highway #169 would be the most difficult as this area of the property was most open and most visible from other surrounding properties. Mr. Putnam added that this was one of the reasons that uses built on the south-southeast portion of the site would be critical , and that proponents agreed with the need for development controls in this area. Mr. Putnam suggested that there were two major ways to control the development to the south. One way would be through architectural parameters which could be placed on the structures built in this area. A second way would be by use of larger setbacks. He suggested that a manufacturing use, with architectural controls and larger setbacks, could be acceptable as a use on the area south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. Mr. Putnam stated that the proposed Comprehensive Guide Plan shown in Alternative #3 would force transition between the residential uses and the commercial/industrial uses to take place across a flat portion of the site instead of at a point of natural topography as suggested by the proponents plan. He stated that he felt the proponent's original plan met transition requirements with distance, compatibility of the uses proposed, and a buffer area between the existing residential units and the proposed uses. Planning Commission Minutes 3 February 11, 1985 Regarding the concern of the Planning Commission for land use balance in the community, Mr. Putnam stated that he did not feel that the change from residential uses to industrial uses would mean a misplacement of residential uses. As to the City possibly having too much land available for industrial, Mr. Putnam stated that he did not feel the BFI area would be developed as industrial, and the property designated for industrial use along the railroad tracks in the southwest quadrant of the City would also likely not be developed as industrial due to its natural features of wooded areas and wetlands. Mr. Putnam suggested that the City could require the property to be developed under the Planned Unit Development process to be certain that development controls were prepared for this site. Chairman Bearman stated that it was incorrect to state that the overriding concern of the Commission was about the land use balance in the community at its last meeting. While it is a matter to consider, he stated that it was not an overriding issue regarding this project. Other Commissioners concurred. He pointed out that the Planning Commission had taken the position that a completely residential development for this property was probably not the highest and best use of the property, but that mixed use development would likely be appropriate. Chairman Bearman added that, at • the last Planning Commission meeting the Commission had discussed specific areas of concern regarding the project and had given direction to the proponent as to what types of issues could be dealt with in order to provide for an acceptable project for both the City and the proponents. Schuck pointed out that the only "new" piece of information since the last meeting was the fact that the Douglas Corporation was an interested purchaser of the property south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. He stated a marketing decision was not one upon which to base planning related decisions for the City. Torjesen stated that the first review of this property, by Hoyt Development, involved a purchase agreement based on approval of a certain land use. The Commission had agreed to re-open the hearing on this item after denying the Hoyt request to give Northrup King better insight as to acceptable land usage of the property. He stated that he felt Northrup King was justified in asking the City to make such a determination; however, the Commission would be remiss in acting upon a marketing decision for land use. Torjesen stated that he felt the Commission and the proponent had come quite close to reaching a compromise at the last Planning Commission meeting to the benefit of both the City and the developer; however, the plan being presented at this time did not appear to meet that compromise position. Torjesen stated that he did not feel the City should approach Comprehensive Guide Plan issues based on purchase agreements, especially since Comprehensive Guide Plan matters were not intended to be use specific. Schuck stated that it was obvious that a marketing decision had been made related to the Comprehensive Guide Plan change requested. He stated that, while he understood the pressures of marketing decisions for a developer, he agreed that the City could not make decisions based on this approach. Planning Commission Minutes 4 February 11, 1985 • Schuck indicated preference for Alternative #3, with the modifications discussed by the Commission at its previous meeting. Johannes stated that he felt he could support the compromise plan including office/industrial uses, but he added that he was uncertain that the extent of this type of use, as shown by the developer, was justified. Marhula stated that he felt the compromise plan reached at the meeting of January 25, 1985, was a better plan, benefitting all concerned. Mr. Putnam asked what the problem was with treating all the flat area south of Anderson Lakes Parkway as one unit of land totalling 75 acres and therefore having it be one use. He stated that he felt the geographic break of the hill to the west was the best location for a change in uses. Torjesen responded that the Comprehensive Guide Plan showed this area as low density residential for the most part. He stated that, at their last meeting, the Commission had concurred that total residential development of this property was not necessarily appropriate; however, the compromise reached seemed an appropriate mix of uses. Torjesen stated that development of the property with so much office and office/service was equally inappropriate, in his opinion. He added that he felt the compromise discussed at the last meeting also offerred opportunity for development of the office and commercial areas to be of residential character in architecture, whereas, the plan now proposed by Northrup King did not offer such opportunity. Mr. Putnam stated that he felt the alternative offerred at the last meeting concentrated too much multiple residential development in one area of the community, if currently built would represent approximately 20% of the total amount of the units currently within the entire City. Chairman Bearman pointed out that the existing Comprehensive Guide Plan already had made such a designation for this area for location of this amount of residential development due, partly, to its proximity to services offerred in the Major Center Area. The purpose of the compromise solution was to better plan the commercial area along Highway #169, as the Commission had agreed that total residential development of the property was not appropriate. Planner Enger pointed out that there is often a tendency, when a plan has been reviewed over a long period of time, for details to be overlooked. He stated that one of the important details of this plan involved some type of commitment for restrictions and controls over the proposed industrial development south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. He stated that nothing along these lines had been offerred by the proponent, which would make this portion of the property other than a typical industrial site. He noted that Mr. Douglas's operation was a manufacturing use. • Staff had discussed this with Tandem Corporation prior to the meeting, asking them to describe the controls they would use in more concrete terms for the area south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. They had suggested that the site would be developed in a manner similar to Lee Data or CPT; however, nothing was presented at this time in writing for the Commission, or Staff, Planning Commission Minutes 5 February 11, 1985 to review. Planner Enger stated that one of the difficulties of proposed Alternative #3 for use designations for this property, was the matter of transition between the residential and commercial areas south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. It had been suggested that proponents work with Staff for methods of accomplishing such a compromise. Instead, proponents chose to return to the Commission with the plan showing industrial usage south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. Chairman Bearman stated that these issues had been discussed at the previous Planning Commission meeting and that suggestions were made as to how to accomplish the transition in general terms. The Commission had expected that proponents would return with specifics. Planner Enger pointed out that in the City had to be concerned not only with what uses would be developed immediately, but also what uses would be developed over a period of time. In addition, the City had to be concerned with the highest and best use of the property overall, not just an immediate marketing plan for the land. Planner Enger stated that, in the cases of both Lee Data and CPT, the City was aware of all the details of the proposed developments, including such matters as architectural detail for the structures proposed. Comprehensive Guide Plan changes in those cases were based upon much more detailed information than was being offerred by the proponents of this Comprehensive Guide Plan change. Planner Enger stated that Staff was reluctant to suggest the Planning Commission adopt an amendment to the Comprehensive Guide Plan without such details being worked out and presented ahead of time in order that the details could also be part of the recommendation for approval for such a plan. Chairman Bearman asked if the City could require the use of a Planned Unit Development process for all the property south of Anderson Lakes Parkway. Staff responded that this was a legal question, but that they did not expect that the City could require a proponent to develop via the Planned Unit Development process, if all zoning requirements were met by the proponent. If the property were to be guided Industrial, then any industrial user meeting the zoning ordinance requirements could potentially receive approval from the City. Torjesen asked for clarification of Alternative #3 involving the areas proposed for RMjRH, or Medium and High Density Residential use. Staff responded that the intention was to show that the higher density could be allowed, if proper transition and site planning were accomplished for the site. • Torjesen asked if the Comprehensive Guide Plan uses had been established through the public hearing process, without land owner marketing plans being considered, but rather with City needs being considered. Staff responded that this was correct, stating that it was a general hearing notice process intended to deal with overall City concerns, but did not make individual Planning Commission Minutes 6 February 11, 1985 property notifications. Torjesen stated that he understood the desire of Northrup King to have uses established for the site, now that certain factors had established that the current Comprehensive Guide Plan uses were inappropriate, i .e. the designated area for Sports Complex and the Low Density Residential usage along Highway #169. He stated that he felt the City should give clear answers to Northrup King as to which uses would be appropriate for the site, but that he felt the establishment of such uses based on a marketing plan would be inappropriate. Chairman Bearman stated that he felt the Commission had given clear direction to Northrup King at the January 25, 1985, Planning Commission meeting regarding acceptable uses for the site; however, the proposal being presented currently was not responsive to that direction. Torjesen asked if it would be worthwhile to have the Staff and proponent work together on a revised proposal to be presented to the Commission at a later date. Schuck stated that he felt it would not be worth the time of the Staff, proponent, or the Commission to proceed through such an exercise because there were no variables to suggest that such a change in the position of the Commission or the proponent would take place. • Mr. Ed Roessler, Northrup King, stated that, as the owners of the property, they felt they had presented the best possible plan for the property. He asked that the Planning Commission act on the proposal before them, as opposed to postponing action for any additional input, or additional work with the Staff on an alternative plan. Chairman Bearman asked for comments and questions from members of the audience. There were none. The Commission discussed the area of transition between the office and residential uses in the area south of Anderson Lakes Parkway as to where a distinction should be made between the two uses. Staff suggested showing an area for both uses, represented by "striping" on the Comprehensive Guide Plan, which would indicate that a transition would be necessary in this location between the High Density Residential and Office uses. The Commission concurred and suggested that the area be approximately 15 acres in size. Johannes suggested that the north-south road through the property closest to Highway #169 and south of Anderson Lakes Parkway could be located on the west side of the area to be designated Office/High Density Residential . MOTION 1; • Motion was made by Schuck, seconded by Torjesen, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 Planning Commission Minutes 7 February 11, 1985 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Schuck, seconded by Torjesen, to recommend to the City Council approval of a Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Sports Center, Low Density Residential, and High Density Residential to Low Density Residential, Medium Density Residential, High Density Residential, Office, and Commercial , based on Alternative #3 of the Staff Report of January 22, 1985, and subject to the following amendments and additions: 1) South of Anderson Lakes Parkway, west of the area designated for Office use along Highway #169, approximately 15-20 acres, be designated as Office/High Density Residential, with the intention that a transition between the Office area along Highway #169 and the Medium Density Residential area to the west, take place in this area. (See attachment) 2) North of Anderson Lakes Parkway, the northwest area of that portion of the property designated for Medium Density Residential/High Density Residential , be reduced to include the western half of that portion shown on Alternative #3, only, with the eastern half designated as High Density Residential, and with the intention that a transition between the High Density Residential to the east, and the Low Density Residential to the west take place in this area. (See attachment) • 3) Floor Area Ratios and residential densities shall be specified in order that the mix of uses for this property may be properly balanced. 4) The design recommendations from the January 25, 1985, Planning Commission Minutes, specifically from page 3 and the first two paragraphs of page 4, shall be included as part of the approval, and, in summary, are as follows: a. Commercial development shall be controlled through use of a design framework manual, which shall include at least the following, but not be limited to architectural controls, landscaping standards, signage and lighting plans, and designation of exterior materials. b. Types of uses within each proposed zoning district shall be designated in order that there be no question as to what types of uses would be expected in the future development of the property (i .e. office, or office/service). The developer shall be responsible for provision of transition between uses. Motion carried--5-0-0 V. OLD BUSINESS None. Planning Commission Minutes 8 February 11, 1985 VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Proposed Amendment to R1-13.5 and R1-9.5 Districts Planner Enger explained the proposed amendments to the R1-13.5 and R1-9.5 Zoning Districts involving minimum street frontage. He explained that these changes would put in ordinance form the types of changes which had been regularly recommended and approved for such developments over the recent past. The Commission discussed the proposal in detail, asking for examples of areas where these changes had been implemented. Staff enumerated many of the projects for which these changes had been part of the approval . The Commission then discussed whether the R1-9.5 Zoning District was valid any longer, based upon the original intention to provide opportunity for low and moderate cost, or starter, housing units within the community. Staff reviewed the projects which had been approved with R1-9.5 Zoning Districts, indicating that approximately half of those projects met the needs of the starter home market. Staff stated that, in this regard, the R1-9.5 Zoning District was working in that it was providing opportunity for such housing within the community. Planner Enger pointed out that at the Joint Planning Commission/City Council • meeting, there had been discussion about this district, as well , and it was reported by Staff that the majority of the variances requested within the R1-9.5 District were in situations where the density of the project approached 3.5 units per acre. The direction at that time was to allow R1- 9.5 Zoning Districts within the Medium Density Residential areas. Mayor Peterson suggested that it was possible that a starter home could now be defined as a multiple family unit, since the price ranges of multiple family units were much more affordable to moderate income families. Commissioners expressed concern regarding the potential for too much development of smaller lots within the community, without the "open look" to the lots, or without enough space around the lots. Planner Enger explained that the Comprehensive Guide Plan showed that approximately 80% of the total land area in Eden Prairie would be developed as Low Density Residential housing, which would likely be enough to maintain the "open look" to the community. MOTION: Motion was made by Schuck, seconded by Johannes, to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed changes to the R1-13.5 and R1-9.5 Zoning Districts. Motion carried--5-0-0 i VII. PLANNER'S REPORT None. Planning Commission Minutes 9 February 11, 1985 VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Johannes, seconded by Schuck. Chairman Bearman adjourned the meeting at 10:45 p.m. • ATTACHMENT TO MINUTES OF PLANNING � r.,F',/"•: �) �r/ / COMMISSION -- FEBRUARY 11; 1985 J R _ R H - M� :tl R(. - H com R H ZA - o�r--------- C RL - Residential Low Density RM - Residential Medium Density C� � RH - Residential High Density ; COM - Commercial ....-........... .... 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