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Planning Commission - 06/18/1984 MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, June 18, 1984 School District Offices, Room #5 8100 School Road MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Hakon Torjesen (9:30 p.m.) MEMBERS ABSENT: Ed Schuck STAFF PRESENT: Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Recording Secretary Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner, to adopt the agenda as printed. iMotion carried--5-0-0 II. MEMBERS REPORTS None. III. MINUTES A. May 7, 1984 MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to approve the minutes of the May 7, 1984, Planning Commission meeting as printed. Motion carried B. May 14, 1984 MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to approve the minutes of the May 14, 1984, Planning Commission meeting as printed. Motion carried--4-0-1 (Chairman Bearman abstained) IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS Planning Commission Minutes 2 June 18, 1984 IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. LION'S TAP, Bert Noterman and Lynn Charlson. Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to Commercial for 1.6 acres; and Preliminary Plat of 27.0 acres into three lots (with variances before the Board of Appeals) . Location: Northwest quadrant of Highway #169 and County Road #4. A continued public hearing. The Commission reviewed the originally proposed plat for the subject project, as well as a request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment for the property, at its meeting of May 7, 1984, and acted upon the Guide Plan request, postponing action on the plat request pending resolution of adequate acreage for the northern-most lot within the proposed plat. The item was again postponed on May 14, 1984. Planner Franzen reviewed the Staff memorandum dated June 7, 1984, updating the activity regarding this proposal since its last review by the Planning Commission. Mr. Rick Sathre, proponent's engineer, reviewed the revised plat and lot configurations with the Planning Commission. Mr. Sathre pointed out that the right-of-way for County Road #4 in this vicinity had already been dedicated to the City. However, if it were added to the acreage for the parcel proposed to be 9.6 acres in size, this would bring that parcel to over ten acres, thereby meeting the minimum requirements for the Rural District of ten-acre minimum lot size. iMarhula questioned why the Staff recommendation was to require proponent to meet the ten-acre minimum for the Rural district as opposed to a variance in this situation. Planner Franzen stated that no hardship of a physical nature had been shown by proponent. Mr. Bert Noterman, proponent, stated that he felt that he had made enough compromises regarding the finalization of this development with the City. He stated that he had originally purchased two five-acre parcels when the City Code only required a five-acre minimum lot size in the Rural Districts, he had agreed to restrict the size of his business, and he had purchased additional road right- of-way for the eventual relocation of County Road #4 in this vicinity. He stated that he did not feel he would need to purchase an additional four-tenths of an acre at this time. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Marhula, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Marhula, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Bert Noterman and Lynn Charlson for preliminary plat of 24.2 acres for two rural lots and one commercial lot, based on plans dated June 6, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 7, 1984, eliminating condition #2 of the June 7, memorandum to allow for a 9.6-acre lot. Motion carried--3-2-0 (Chairman Bearman and Marhula against) Planning Commission Minutes 3 June 18, 1984 Chairman Bearman and Marhula stated that they voted against as they did not feel the variance proposed had been justified. Chairman Bearman added that he was not in favor of the small acreage and rezoning allowed for the commercial structure on the south end of the property, either. B. PRAIRIE KNOLL, by Hestia Homes, Inc. Request for Planned Unit Development District Review and Zoning from Rural to R1-9.5, with variances, for 60 single family residential units and Preliminary Plat of 24 acres into 60 lots and outlots. Location: Northwest quadrant of Valley View Road and Edenvale Boulevard. A continued public hearing. At the May 14, 1984, Planning Commission meeting, the Commission raised a number of concerns for the proponent to consider and to try to work out with neighbors and the Planning Staff. The Commission had also asked about the ability of the City to sell any part of park property to a private party. Mr. Lambert, Director of Community Services, had researched the conditions of acquisition of the park property, and found that there were no deed restrictions and that the property could be sold based upon an appraised fair market value. Mr. Brian Nowak, proponent, reviewed the amended site plan details as requested by the Planning Commission at its May 14, 1984 meeting. Since that time, fundamental changes in the design of the buildings and the long term maintenance of the project had been made by the proponent. Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report of May 4, 1984, with the Planning Commission. Chairman Bearman expressed concern regarding the traffic along Valley View Road at this time. He stated that he felt it would be important for the City to begin upgrading of this road as soon as possible, not only for this project, but especially for the existing residents in the surrounding area. Chairman Bearman asked if the Capital Improvements Program recently discussed by the City Council had included the upgrading of Valley View Road. Planner Franzen responded that it was anticipated for completion in 1987. Marhula asked which variances were being requested by the proponent. Planner Franzen responded that they would be side lot line variances for the zero lot line concept of the project, road frontage variances, and lot size variances. Hallett asked how many acres of open space were being dedicated by the proponent for this project. Mr. Nowak responded that it was a total of 8.4 acres. Planner Franzen pointed out that, including the 8.4 acres to be dedicated for open space, density for the project overall would be 2.5 units per acre. Without the open space, the density for the project would be 3.85 units per acre. Mr. David Bowers, 15800 Valley View Road, expressed concern regarding traffic along Valley View Road. He stated that during the peak hours, it had been his observation that traffic would be backed up to the west all the way to the intersection of County Road #4 and Valley View Road. Mr. Bowers added that he felt it was premature to deal with any additional projects along Valley View Road at this time until Valley View Road was upgraded. Planning Commission Minutes 4 June 18, 1984 Mr. Harry Treager, 15341 Creekside Court, stated that, currently, he would drive two miles out of his way in order to avoid traffic along Valley View Road due to the severe backup during peak hour traffic periods. Mr. Bowers added that he felt that the City should be aware that this entire project accessed Valley View Road only, and that there were no alternative access points for any of the proposed units in this project. The Commission discussed the project in greater detail, including traffic, the number of variances requested, the zero lot line concept of the proposal , maintenance of the private facilities and structures, and density. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Marhu•la, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council denial of the request of Hestia Homes for development of Prairie Knoll for 60 single family residential lots, based on the significant number of variances • required on individual lots for lot size and frontage. Motion carried--3-2-0 (Gartner, Johannes, and Marhula in favor; Chairman Bearman and Hallett against) The Commission discussed the project further, particularly with respect to variances, and asked Mr. Nowak if it would be possible to rearrange lot lines to reduce the number of variances requested by the current design. Mr. Nowak stated that he felt this could be accomplished. MOTION 3: Motion to Reconsider the Previous Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner. Motion carried--4-1-0 (Johannes against) Johannes stated that he felt there were an inordinate number of variances proposed for the project as designed. The Commission continued discussion on the motion regarding the Planned Unit Development District Review and zoning for the Prairie Knoll development. MOTION 4: Substitute Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for Planned Unit Development District Review and Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-9.5 for Prairie Knoll by Hestia Homes, for a single family residential plan on 24 acres, based on written materials and plans dated April 18, 1984, and revised materials dated June 7, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 4, 1984, with the additional condition that the majority of the lots meet the R1-9.5 District requirements for Planning Commission Minutes 5 June 18, 1984 i frontage, lot size, etc. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 5• Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for Preliminary Plat of approximately 24 acres for single family development known as Prairie Knoll by Hestia Homes, based on written materials and plans dated May 4, 1984, revised materials dated June 7, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 4, 1984, with the additional condition that the majority of the lots meet the R1-9.5 District requirements for frontage, lot size, etc. Motion carried--5-0-0 C. KURVERS ADDITION, by Franklin J. Kurvers. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 and Preliminary Plat of 2.0 acres into five single family residential lots. Location: East of Highway #101, north of Autumn Woods, South of Rymarland Camp. A public hearing. Mr. Ron Krueger, representing proponent, reviewed the proposed plat with the Planning Commission. Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report of June 8, 1984. Chairman Searman asked for comments and questions from members of the audience. There were none. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Johannes, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Johannes, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Franklin J. Kurver for Zoning District Change from rural to R1-13.5 for 2.0 acres, based on plans dated June 4, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Johannes, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Franklin J. Kurver for Preliminary Plat of 2.0 acres into five lots for single family residential development to be known as the Kurver Addition, based on plans dated June 4, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984. Motion carried--5-0-0 Planning Commission Minutes 6 June 18, 1984 (Torjesen arrived at 9:30 p.m.) D. ST. ANDREWS CHURCH. Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low and Medium Density Residential to Church for 4.95 acres, Site Plan Amendment for 3.75 acres for church expansion, and Zoning District Change from Rural to Public for 1 .2 acres. Location: Northwest quadrant of Baker Road and Valley View Road. A public hearing. Mr. Lloyd Bergquist, architect for proponent, reviewed the site plan with the Planning Commission, pointing out the phasing for the project as proposed. He stated that while City Code did not require the amount of parking shown on the site plan, the church did not want to be caught short in the future and, therefore, was proposing the additional parking spaces to be constructed at this time. Future expansion for the project included 5,000 square feet of additional office space to the northwest side of the building. Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report for this project. He stated that there were two points of concern: 1) adequate screening of the parking areas; 2) the proposed driveway access located approximately 150 feet northwest of the intersection of St. Andrew Drive and Baker Road. Marhula expressed concern regarding the access closest to Baker Drive being located on the inside of a curve, which, he stated, is the least desirable situation for adequate sight distance for motorists. He asked proponents if it would be possible to move the driveway to a better location for better sight distance. Mr. Fred Hoisington, 10334 Balsam Lane, a member of the St. Andrew's Lutheran Church Building Committee, stated that the lower level parking area, which was the location of the driveway being discussed, would not be built at this time. It would be built in the future. He added that the church would be willing to be responsible for proper monitoring of the driveway, and, at the request of the City, would make any amendments necessary at such time the City felt it would be important to make changes in the access. For example, Mr. Hoisington pointed out that signage would be an effective way of controlling this access if necessary. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion-was made by Hallett, seconded by Marhula, to recommend to the City Council, approval of the request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low and Medium Density Residential to Church for 4.95 acres for the expansion of St. Andrews Lutheran Church, based on plans dated May 4, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984, with the additional condition that the City monitor the driveway access point closest to the intersection of St. Andrews Drive and Baker Road, and, in its sole discretion, require proponent to make any controlled access changes necessary for the safe use of the intersection. Planning Commission Minutes 7 June 18, 1984 Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Marhula, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for Zoning District Change from Rural to Public for 1 .2 acres and Site Plan Amendment for 3.75 acres for the expansion of St. Andrews Lutheran Church, based on plans dated May 4, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984, with the additional condition that the City monitor the driveway access point closest to the intersection of St. Andrews Drive and Baker Road, and, in its sole discretion, require proponent to make any controlled access changes necessary for the safe use of the intersection. Motion carried--6-0-0 E. LANDMARK WEST, by Landmark Northwest, Inc. Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Office to C-Regional ; Planned Unit Development Concept Amendment; Zoning District Change from Rural to C-Regional Service (with variances for the Board of Appeals) for 7.29 acres for service uses (retail, 200-seat restaurant, health club, fast food restaurant, and gas station/convenience store) . Location: Southeast corner of Shady Oak Road and City West Parkway. A public hearing. Mr. John Uban, Howard Dahlgren and Associates, representing proponents, gave a brief history and development record of proponent. Mr. Uban discussed the Landmark proposal with respect to the surrounding area. He pointed out that there would be a total of approximately ten million square feet of office/industrial space within the vicinity. Mr. Uban stated that the change in the Guide Plan requested made sense from the regional point of view and from neighborhood point of view. He stated that none of the uses proposed existed in this vicinity. Mr. Dennis Eiler, Strgar-Roscoe, traffic consultants for proponent, stated that total trips per day would increase by 5,000 from the previous 14,000 trips per day from the City West development with the addition of this proposed shopping area. Chairman Bearman asked how trips were assigned to the uses within this shopping , center. Mr. Eiler explained that most of the uses were considered "capture" uses. In other words, the vehicles were already enroute to one place or another; however, they would stop at the shopping center and continue onward. The shopping center would not be a generator of traffic, such as an office building. Torjeson asked what would happen to the large cottonwood existing on the site. Mr. Paul Dahlberg, architect for proponent, stated that the cottonwood tree would be removed, due to a need for better access and circulation within the site. Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report regarding this proposal. Torjeson pointed out that this area had been designated as office use within the original City West Planned Unit Development as approved by the City. Torjeson stated that the specifics of this site included that the office buildings be built to have a residential character. He stated that he did not feel that this mall , as proposed, was of a residential character, nor that a justification for a change in the Guide Plan had not been made by proponent. Planning Commission Minutes 8 June 18, 1984 0 Marhula stated that he felt substantial modification was necessary prior to Commission action on this project. Hallett stated that he felt there was a need for retail in this area; however, he, too, felt that additional modification was necessary prior to Commission action on the project. Johannes stated that, while he was generally in favor of the concept, he disagreed that this should be a regional facility for shopping and retail purposes. Chairman Bearman stated that he did not feel this was a community use, rather it was a regional use. He stated that he did not feel this site was appropriate for a regional size use. Torjeson stated that he felt the use was inappropriate, particularly because of the pond located to the east of this property. He stated that he felt an office building would be more suited to a site such as this. Mr. Uban stated that people other than those who worked within the City West Planned Unit Development would be using the facilities proposed by Landmark. He stated that if the use had been located within the City West development as opposed to on the fringe near thoroughfare sized roads, it would not be a successful retail site. Hallett questioned why it would not be appropriate to locate a use such as this on the west side of Shady Oak Road. Mr. Uban stated that the site on the west side of Shady Oak Road had been designated as residential. Ms. Beverly Ahern, agent for Landmark West, stated that proponents were trying to develop a quality project within the City. She listed several of the uses proposed for the retail spaces. Mr. Scott Anderson, Anderson Development, Inc., owners of the property, stated that they had felt that they had followed the Planned Unit Development as closely as possible throughout the development of the property. He stated that it was there opinion that this would be a good use within this vicinity, providing needed services for the other projects within the area. Mr. Ken Beirsdorf, representing Len and Betty Uherka, expressed concern regarding the future potential of their site. He pointed out that utilities and major roads were available to this site for the Uherka's, however, no final use had yet been designated for the site. He asked how the development of the Landmark site might effect their property. Mr. Joe Ruzic, 6825 Rowland Road, stated that he, too, felt that a commercial use would be more appropriate on the west side of Shady Oak Road, perhaps on the Uherka property. Torjeson reiterated the need for justification of the proposed Guide Plan change for this property. MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to continue the public hearing for the Landmark West proposal to the July 9, 1984, Planning Commission meeting, to allow proponent opportunity to revise the plans for the project to meet the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984. Planning Commission Minutes 9 June 18, 1984 Ib Motion carried--6-0-0 (Gartner left at 12:00 a.m.) F. SHADY OAK RIDGE, by Joseph Ruzic. Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Low Density Residential to Medium Density Residential ; Zoning District Change from Rural to RM-6.5; and Preliminary Plat of 11 .5 acres for 48 townhouse units. Location: North of Rowland Road, west of Old Shady Oak Road. A public hearing. Mr. Ron Krueger, representing proponent, reviewed the proposed development with the Commission. Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report of June 8, 1984, pointing out the areas of concern to the Planning Commission. Chairman Bearman stated that he did not feel single family units on this site would be appropriate, however he had no objection to a multi-family use. Marhula stated that he felt clustering of the units would be an appropriate way to develop the property. He stated that he was concerned, however, about the density of overall site. Marhula added that he felt adjoining properties should be reviewed as to the impact of the development of this site upon the future uses of the surrounding sites. 2 Torjeson stated that he was not opposed to the proposed use of this site; however, he felt the density should remain at 2.5 units per acre. Hallett stated that he felt the difference between 2.5 units per acre and 4.1 units per acre as proposed by Mr. Ruzic was significant. He added that he, too, was interested in the effect upon adjoining properties. Chairman Bearman suggested that proponent review the possibilities of developing the site as single family units within the R1-44 District. He reiterated that he felt the townhouse units would be an appropriate use for such a site. Mr. Krueger stated that, even with removal of a portion of the units, the impact upon the required slope would be the same for the road through the site. The current slope for the road was 3/1, and would not change with the number of units for the site. Mr. Krueger added that development of the site in any way would require approximately the same amount of grading as well . He also stated that moving the units further north of the site would not be beneficial, and that it would require removal of additional trees. Mr. Len Uherka, 6301 Shady Oak Road, asked about utility access and availability to this site. Mr. Krueger pointed out that utilities were available at the north end of the site. The Commission discussed with Mr. Ruzic the possibility and potential for adding his six-acre piece to the south of this property to the overall proposal to provide addtional acreage for spreading of the units across the site. Marhula stated that he felt the units along the southeast portion of the site were Planning Commission Minutes 10 June 18, 1984 somewhat tight as shown. Marhula also questioned the access at the south end of the site as to its safety at its intersection with Shady Oak Road. Chairman Bearman asked if a homeowners' association would be developed in order to maintain the private road and other common facilities within the site. Mr. Ruzic responded that there would be a homeowners' association for such purposes. The Commission concurred that a tree inventory of this site would aid in determination of the number of units which would be appropriate for this site and asked proponent to provide such an inventory to Staff at their earliest opportunity. MOTION: Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Marhula, to continue the public hearing to the July 23, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to allow proponent opportunity to revise the request per the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 8, 1984. Motion carried--5-0-0 VI. NEW BUSINESS None. I. OLD BUSINESS None. VIII. PLANNER'S REPORT None. IX. ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Hallett, seconded by Torjesen. Chairman Bearman adjourned the meeting at 1:15 a.m. Respectfully submitted, Kate Karnas Recording Secretary •