Planning Commission - 04/09/1984 AGENDA
Monday, April 9, 1984
School Board Meeting Room
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett,
Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael D. Franzen,
Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
(7:45) A. HIDDEN GLEN 2ND ADDITION, by Derrick Land Company. Request
for Zoning District Change from Rural and R1-22 to R1-13.5
and R1-9.5 for 56.09 acres and Preliminary Plat of 56.09
acres for 78 single family lots and two outlots. Location:
Southeast quadrant of Highway #101 and Townline Road. A
public hearing.
(8:30) B. NATIONAL CHILD CARE CENTER, by Eden Prairie Real Estate
Investment Corporation. Request for Planned Unit Develop-
ment Concept Amendment and Planned Unit Development District
Review and Zoning from Rural to Neighborhood Commercial for
a Day Care Facility and Preliminary Plat of 17.28 acres into
four lots. Location: Southeast quadrant of Anderson Lakes
Parkway and Highway #169. A public hearing.
(9:15) C. MIN-TEX. Request for Zoning and Site Plan Amendment for
18.97 acres for two (2) office/warehouse structures in I-2
Park Zoning District. Location: W. 70th Street, west of
Shady Oak Road. A public hearing.
(9:45) D. EDEN GLEN CENTER, by Urban Associates. Request for Zoning
District Change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service
for 1 .633 acres for 11,000 sq. ft. strip shopping center.
Location: East side of Glen Lane between Singletree Lane
and Eden Road. A public hearing.
V. NEW BUSINESS
VI. OLD BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: The times listed beside the items above are tentative.
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, April 9, 1984
School Board Meeting Room
8100 School Road
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett,
Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula (7:50 p.m.), Hakon Torjesen
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ed Schuck
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael D. Franzen,
Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to adopt the
agenda as printed.
• Motion carried--5-0-0
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
III. MINUTES
MOTION
Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Hallett, to approve the
minutes of the March 27, 1984, Planning Commission meeting as
printed.
Motion carried--4-0-1 (Gartner abstained)
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. HIDDEN GLEN 2ND ADDITION, by Derrick Land Company. Request
for Zoning District Change from Rural and R1-22 to R1-13.5
and R1-9.5 for 56.09 acres and Preliminary Plat of 56.09
acres for 78 single family lots and two outlots. Location:
Southeast quadrant of Highway #101 and Townline Road. A
public hearing.
Mr. Richard Bloom, Vice President of Planning of Derrick Land
Company, reviewed the site in relation to the approved Planned Unit
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• Development for the 104-acre site. The current proposal included 56
acres of the overall site. Mr. Bloom stated that adjustments would
be made in order that all lot sizes would comply with the R1-13.5
zoning requirements. Mr. Bloom explained that there was still a
minor difficulty with the Dolesji driveway access situation, which
would be resolved prior to review of the project by the Council .
The Dolesji homestead was proposed to remain and become a part of
the new Hidden Glen subdivision. Mr. Bloom added that proponents
were working with the Minnesota Department of Transportation
regarding access from Highway #101 and turn lanes required for
proper safety. Mr. Bloom also stated that proponents were working
with City Staff regarding final details for Dell Road.
Planner Enger reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff
Report regarding this project.
Hallett asked if there would be a sidewalk or bikeway along Highway
#101 . Planner Enger responded there would not be, but that the
bikeway or walkway function would be handled along a parallel route
using Dell Road.
Torjeson asked if development of Phase I and Phase II of the Hidden
Glen project was dependent upon the construction of Dell Road.
Planner Enger responded that this was Staff's recommendation.
Mr. Bloom stated that an assessment agreement had not been finalized
for Phase I of the Hidden Glen at this time. He stated that with
Phase I there had been consideration for the new owners of lots
within the project aiding in the assessment payments for Dell Road.
Financing for the project had been dependent upon the participation
of future owners. Mr. Bloom stated that part of the problem had
arisen, also, due to the fact that the grading for Phase I of the
project did not balance to the satisfaction of the proponents.
Therefore, it had been proponents decision to proceed with the
planning of Phase II in order that grading for both phases could be
done and balanced at the same time.
Mr. Bloom also stated that proponents questioned the need for an
eight-foot wide bike path along Dell Road since there was no
continuation of the bike path south of their project along Dell
Road. Staff explained that in the future, there would be a bike
path along Dell Road south of the Hidden Glen property, but that it
had not been built at this time.
Chairman Bearman asked if the Engineering Department was satisfied
with the proposed alignment of Dell Road. Planner Enger stated that
Planning Staff had discussed this with the Engineering Department,
and that the Engineering Department had stated that they were
prepared to accept this alignment of Dell Road as it appeared to
work well for the Hidden Glen project.
Torjeson asked what the minimum lot frontage was for the R1-13.5
lots. Staff responded that the minimum frontage was 70 feet.
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Hallett asked if there would be a trail of any sort along Townline
Road along the north edge of the project. Planner Enger responded
that the City had not planned such a path; however, the County would
likely treat this trail as they did the trail along County Road #4.
(Marhula arrived at 7:50 p.m.)
Chairman asked for comments and questions from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION 1 :
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Johannes, to close the
public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen, to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Derrick Land Company for
zoning district change from Rural and R1-22 to R1-13.5 and R1-9.5
for 56.09 acres for the Hidden Glen 2nd Addition, based on written
materials dated February 28, 1984, and plans dated March 5, 1984,
subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated April 6,
1984.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen, to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Derrick Land Company for
preliminary plat of Hidden Glen 2nd Addition into 78 single family
lots, based on written materials dated February 28, 1984, and plans
dated March 5, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated April 6, 1984.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
B. NATIONAL CHILD CARE CENTER, by Eden Prairie Real Estate
Investment Corporation. Request for Planned Unit Develop-
ment Concept Amendment and Planned Unit Development District
Review and Zoning from Rural to Neighborhood Commercial for
a Day Care Facility and Preliminary Plat of 17.28 acres into
four lots. Location: Southeast quadrant of Anderson Lakes
Parkway and Highway #169. A public hearing.
Mr. Jack Lynch, Westwood Planning and Engineering, representing
proponent, reviewed the request and it$ relationship to the
originally approved Planned Unit Development from 1980. Mr. Lynch
stated that the existing utilities would be stubbed in from the
residential area to the east for this property.
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Mr. Jack Vossler, Schoell & Madsen, also representing proponents,
stated that the day care center would be able to handle
approximately 150 students. Staff members for the day care center
would number approximately 16.
Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the
Staff Report. Planner Franzen stated that one of the Staff concerns
was that a development framework manual be prepared for the future
uses within the project to maintain consistency within the
development. Also, there was concern that proper screening of the
project from the existing residential neighborhoods to the east and
south be a part of any development of this parcel , including
screening of parking areas and rooftop mechanical equipment.
Mr. Bob Elkan, Woodson Development, explained the reasons why
National Child Care wanted to located in the City of Eden Prairie.
He stated that Eden Prairie, due to its high growth mode, was a
prime location for any day care center at this time.
Hallett asked if it was National Child Care's intention to locate at
a point were two collector streets had an intersection so close to
the project. Mr. Woodson responded this was desirable, due to the
ease of access provided to the site. He added that there were eight
such sites in Minnesota now in similar locations.
Chairman Bearman asked how day care centers became accredited in the
State of Minnesota. Mr. Woodson responded that the State of
Minnesota Department of Health and Welfare was responsible for the
accreditation.
Johannes asked if the berm would have to be relocated if the future
parking area noted on the site plan was ever required to be built by
the proponents. Planner Franzen responded that it would be
necessary to relocate the berm in that case. He added that this
would especially be true if the building were ever converted to an
office use.
Torjeson asked if the entire site would need to be graded. Mr.
Vossler responded that it would be, with the exception of the
southeast slope of the property. Mr. Vossler added that some of the
shrubs planted by the adjacent residents, which were actually
located on the National Child Care site, would be removed with the
grading, saved, and replanted closer to the residential lots. He
added that they would work with neighbors to relocate the shrubbery.
Mr. Ed Luedtke, 12630 Crowfoot, questioned the exact location of the
property. Mr. Lynch pointed out to Mr. Luedtke the location of the
property in relation to his home.
Ms. Nancy Furst, 8693 Darnell Road, expressed concern about the
traffic which would be generated by this site along Anderson Lakes
Parkway. She stated that she was concerned that an additional 150
cars would add to the already congested traffic situation at
Anderson Lakes Parkway and Highway #169 during the peak traffic
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periods. Planner Enger responded,that the amount of traffic would
be similar to that at Anderson Lakes Parkway and County Road #18.
However, he added that this site would not quite have the difficulty
of traffic that the Anderson Lakes Parkway and County Road #18
intersection did due to the fact that roads were more straight than
curvilinear as was the case at County Road #18 and Anderson Lakes
Parkway. Site visibility would be much better. Chairman Searman
asked how much traffic this intersection at Anderson Lakes Parkway
and Highway #169 was designed to handle. Planner Enger responded
that this intersection was designed to handle 9,000 trips per day.
Planner Enger also pointed out that Anderson Lakes, Parkway had not
yet been built to its full width in most locations. If necessary,
and when necessary, Anderson Lakes Parkway would be built to a four-
lane width. Planner Enger stated that the City already had adequate
right-of-way for the widening of Anderson Lakes Parkway.
Ms. Furst stated that she felt the City of Eden Prairie had many day
care centers at this time, and she questioned the need for
additional day care centers of this type. She pointed out that
National Child Care was a national franchise or chain operation,
with headquarters out of the State of Minnesota. She stated that
she felt the City should perhaps consider a different type of day
care center, and perhaps put limits on the various types of day care
centers within the community, to provide enough choices as were
needed by the residents.
Mr. Mike Juran, 8936 Darnell , asked if the play area of the day care
center would be fenced. Planner Franzen responded that the area
would be fenced; however, Staff had recommended additional berming
outside of the fencing to more completely screen the play area from
the view from the surrounding public roads and existing residents.
Mr. Juran also asked if the development framework manual for the
project area would be finalized prior to development of this
project. Planner Franzen stated that Staff was requiring the
development framework manual to be completed prior to additional
development within the project area.
MOTION 1 •
Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to close the
public hearing.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Eden Prairie Real Estate
Investment Corporation for Planned Unit Development Concept
Amendment, Planned Unit Development District Review, and Zoning
District Change from Rural to Neighborhood Commercial for a day care
facility for National Child Care, based on written materials dated
March 2, 1984, and plans dated February 17, 1984, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated April 6, 1984.
Planning Commission Minutes 6 April 9, 1984
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Johannes, to recommend to
the City Council approval of the request of Eden Prairie Real Estate
Investment Corporation for Preliminary Plat of 17.28 acres into four
lots for neighborhood commercial use for National Child Care, based
on written materials dated March 2, 1984, and plans dated February
17, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated
April 6, 1984.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Marhula abstained)
C. MIN-TEX. Request for Zoning and Site Plan Amendment for
18.97 acres for two (2) office/warehouse structures in I-2
Park Zoning District. Location: W. 70th Street, west of
Shady Oak Road. A public hearing.
Mr. Bernie Frye, representing proponents, reviewed the overall
development plan for the area within the former Shady Oak Industrial
Park 6th Addition. He also reviewed the site characteristics,
elevations, ponding area, and building materials proposed for this
site. Mr. Frye stated that Outlot A had originally been planned as
a storm water retention area, but that after discussions with Staff,
it had been decided that they would try to develop Outlot A as more
of an amenity for the employees of the area, as well as an area to
fulfill the purpose of storm water retention. Their proposal was to
use it as a passive recreation area, to include picnic tables,
walking paths, etc. Mr. Frye pointed out that this alteration to
the plan would have to be reviewed by the Watershed District and
other agencies, due to the size of the storm water retention pond.
Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the
Staff Report.
Chairman Bearman asked for comments and questions from members of
the audience. There were none.
MOTION 1 :
Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried--6-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of MIN-TEX for zoning and site
plan amendment for 18.97 acres for two (2) office/warehouse
buildings in the I-2 Park District, based on written materials dated
Planning Commission Minutes 7 April 9, 1984
is March 13, 1984, and plans dated February 27, 1984, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated April 6, 1984.
Motion carried--6-0-0
D. EDEN GLEN CENTER, by Urban Associates. Request for Zoning
District Change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service
for 1 .633 acres for 11 ,000 sq. ft. strip shopping center.
Location: East side of Glen Lane between Singletree Lane
and Eden Road. A public hearing.
Mr. Dave Reimer, Urban Associates, reviewed the site characteristics
and features of the site plan with the Planning Commission.
Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the
Staff Report regarding this project. He pointed out that there was
an existing Development Framework Manual, which had been approved
with the Planned Unit Development for Eden Glen, in 1980. Planner
Franzen stated that this project for Eden Glen Center was in
substantial compliance with the Development Framework Manual
approved in 1980. He also pointed out that there was concern about
the screening rooftop mechanical equipment from view from the
Highway #169 frontage for the project. Mr. Reimer stated that they
would provide site sections for Staff review to determine the
. acceptability of the screening proposed for the rooftop mechanical
on Highway #169.
Commission discussed with Staff the differences in various strip
shopping centers within the community.
Mr. Reimer stated that many of his tenants preferred to be within a
"strip" shopping center due to the visibility provided for their
sites in a situation like this as opposed to that of an enclosed
mall .
MOTION 1 :
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried--6-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request of Urban Associates for zoning
district change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service for 1 .633
acres for an 11 ,000 sq. ft. strip shopping center, based on plans
dated March 6, 1984, subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated April 6, 1984.
Motion carried--6-0-0
V. NEW BUSINESS
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V. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. May Meetings
The meeting schedule for the month of May was discussed by the
Commission. It was determined that the first meeting of the month
would be held May 7, 1984, with the second meeting date to be
determined no later than the April 23, 1984, meeting.
B. Exterior Materials/High-tech Worksheet
Planner Enger reviewed the Staff reports on these two items with the
Commission. Various concerns and ideas were expressed by the
Commission with respect to including Code restrictions for exterior
materials, and, especially high-tech uses, within the existing
zoning districts. The Commission would be continuing discussion on
• these items at future meetings.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen.
Chairman Bearman adjourned the meeting at 10:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kate Karnas
Recording Secretary