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Planning Commission - 09/12/1983 AGENDA Monday, September 12, 1983 7:30 p.m., City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. MEMBERS REPORTS III. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. APPLE GROVES, by Northwest Properties. Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review, Planned Unit Development District Review for a mixed residential land use, Zoning from Rural to R1-13.5, R1-9.5, and RM-6.5, Preliminary Platting of 40.91 acres for 181 attached and detached single family units, and Environmental Assessment Worksheet Review. Location: South of Valley View Road and West of Lorence Addition. A continued public hearing. B. BLUFF RIDGE, by Mark Charles. Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review for a mixed residential use, Planned Unit Development District Review and Zoning from Rural to RM-6.5 and R1-9.5 for 118 units, and Preliminary Plat of 16.2 for mixed residential use. Location: Southeast quadrant of County Road #1 and Franlo Road. A continued public hearing. C. MAPLE HILL, by Charis. Request for Zoning District change from Rural to R1-13.5 for single family detached land use and Preliminary Plat of 5.3 acres for nine (9) lots. Location: 18811 Duck Lake Trail. A public hearing, D. LILLIAN BECKMAN. Request for Preliminary Plat of 4.5 acres into three 3) single family detached lots. Location: 12400 Gerard Drive. A public hearing. E. PRAIRIE WASH ADDITION, by Ricky Ites. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service for a car wash/office/apartment land use and Preliminary Plat of 1.56 acres for one lot. Location: East of Prairie Center Drive and South of Valley View Road. A public hearing. IV. OLD BUSINESS V. NEW BUSINESS VI. PLANNER'S REPORT VII. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, September 12, 1983 7:30 p.m., City Hall MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen MEMBER ABSENT: Stan Johannes STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen, to adopt the agenda as printed. Motion carried--6-0-0 II. MEMBERS REPORTS None. III. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. APPLE GROVES, by Northwest Properties. Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review, Planned Unit Development District Review for a mixed residential land use, Zoning from Rural to R1-13.5, R1-9.5, and RM-6.5, Preliminary Platting of 40.91 acres for 181 attached and detached single family units, and Environmental Assessment Worksheet Review. Location: South of Valley View Road and West of Lorence Addition. A continued public hearing. Mr. Hani Hayek, Northwest Properties, presented revised plans for the subject project, responsive to concerns of the neighborhood and the Planning Commission, based on previous meetings. Mr. Hayek reviewed the changes, indicating that the number of townhouses had been reduced by 15% from 98 to 85 units. Sight lines were shown from Valley View Road through the proposed berming and landscaping to the townhouse units. Planner Enger stated that the project would rely heavily on a positive buffer between Valley View Road and the proposed townhouse units in order to accomplish a proper transition between the Planning Commission Minutes 2 September 12, 1983 0 townhouses and the lower density development in the area, thereby making the townhouse area self-contained. staff stated a need for more detailed plans in order to evaluate the proposed buffering, with at least three more sight lines to be taken from Valley View Road to the townhouses to complete the evaluation. Chairman Bearman read the letters from Steve and Michelle Nixon, 18105 Valley View Road, and Bob and Lorraine Rippe, 7105 Parkview Lane, regarding their objections to the project and asked that the letters be made part of the recorded file on the project. Chairman Bearman asked what the proposed overall density for the property would be. Staff responded that it was approximately 4.1 units per acre. The Commission discussed the impact of traffic upon Valley View Road from a project of this type. Chairman Bearman asked what the capacity of Valley View Road was for number of daily trips. Staff responded that the road was designed, as it existed, to handle 9,000 daily trips. A rough estimate of current traffic was approximated at 4,500 daily trips. . Chairman Bearman asked if there was adequate right-of-way for the expansion of Valley View Road to a four-lane road. Staff stated that there was. Hallett asked if there was enough area available at the north end of the property to allow for the size of berming necessary for screening of the property from land to the north. Staff responded that there was adequate space; however, there was a question as to whether there would be adequate material on the site to build the berms. Gartner asked if the rough estimate of current traffic on Valley View Road took into account the traffic resulting from the high . school, Community Center, and other public facilities in the area. Staff stated that it did. Torjesen stated that he did not feel the case for the Comprehensive Guide Plan change from single family to townhouse units had been justified in the first presentation by proponent. He stated that it had been suggested that the number of townhouse units be reduced to give more attention to the transition between proposed and existing land uses. Torjesen said that the efforts shown to the north were appreciated, but that he was uncomfortable with the transition to the west. He emphasized that any Guide Plan change needed to substantiate two things: 1) that the change was in the community's interest; and, 2) that the change would not adversely affect surrounding land uses. Chairman Bearman stated that he was not concerned with the use of townhouses, but he was concerned with the quantity of townhouses Planning Commission Minutes 3 September 12, 1983 proposed. The Commission discussed alternative methods of redesigning the project to mitigate the remaining concerns. Michelle Nixon, 18105 Valley View Road, stated that her current sight line was an open field, east to the pond near the Lorence Addition. She stated that the Planning Commission should not consider whether multiple residential units were appropriate based on whether they could be buffered and screened, but on whether the City needed multiple residential units in the area. Ms. Nixon added that she did not feel there would be a blending of the units going from $100,000 single family homes to $60,000 townhouses. Don Uden, 7530 Atherton Way, expressed concern that the entire area which was undeveloped in the vicinity of their homes would be turned into multiple residential units. Kris Williams, 7370 Hames Way, stated that she felt it would be appropriate for the City to develop the existing areas designated as multiple before other areas of the City not so designated would be considered for multiple development. Ms. Williams added that she did not feel that the developer had reduced the number of townhouses significantly from the current plan. Bruce Brady, 18216 Valley View Road, expressed concern that the property north of the road may be influenced to be multiple residential if this property would be allowed to be developed as multiple residential. Carol Scott, 7691 Heritage Road, also expressed concern about multiple residential on the north side of Valley View Road, should this project be approved. Mrs. Bruce Brady, 18216 Valley View Road, questioned the affect of additional multiple residential development upon the facilities of the school district. Rod Olsen, 7610 Heritage Road, stated that the existing facilities in the area were currently over-used, particularly Round Lake Park, yet this developer was not proposing any amenities within the project. Joan Brinkman, 18117 Valley View Road, stated concern that the atmosphere of the area would change with the introduction of multiple residential units. She stated that she felt the direction from the previous meeting was clear regarding the statements of the Planning Commission and the desires of the existing surrounding residents that the townhouse units be reduced, but she did not feel • the change shown was enough. Torjesen stated that, while he felt an attempt had been made by the developer to resolve the situation, he would be more comfortable with the project overall if the developer would reduce the density Planning Commission Minutes 4 September 12, 1983 to be closer to that reflected by the Guide Plan. Hallett stated that he felt there was a good buffer to the west, but that improvement was needed to buffer the area to the north. Also, based on comments from members of the audience, he stated that he felt it would be important to view the sight lines from their homes to the site for homes to the west. Chairman Bearman stated that he felt the uses were appropriate, but that the density was too high. Jeanine Nelson, 18129 Valley View Road, asked about the estimated costs for the housing units. Mr. Hayek stated that the single family lots would cost approximately $40,000, with the cost of homes being about $150,000. The townhouses would be approximately $60,000470,000. Ms. Nelson stated that she felt the transition was insufficient between the higher cost single family homes and the lower cost townhouses. Mr. Hayek stated that he did not feel there was anywhere in the northwest portion of the City which provided housing for young couples or the aging, but that the townhouses would do so in that price range. Mr. Hayek added, in response to other comments, that the two rows of evergreens currently existing on the property were so thick that, even at a one foot level from the ground, they could not be seen through. MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to continue the public hearing to the September 26, 1983, Planning Commission meeting to allow proponent time to respond to additional direction from the Planning Commission and. to provide additional information to support the requests. Motion carried--6-0-0 B. BLUFF RIDGE, by Mark Charles. Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review for a mixed residential use, Planned Unit Development District Review and Zoning from Rural to RM-6.5 and R1-9.5 for 118 units, and Preliminary Plat of 16.2 for mixed residential use. Location: Southeast quadrant of County Road #1 and Franlo Road. A continued public hearing. Proponent had requested a continuance of this matter to the September 26, 1983, Planning Commission meeting to allow additional • time to work out the area-wide storm water drainage considerations involved. Planning Commission Minutes 5 September 12, 1983 • MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen, to continue the public hearing to the September 26, 1983, Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried--6-0-0 C. MAPLE HILL, by Charis. Request for Zoning District change from Rural to R1-13.5 for single family detached land use and Preliminary Plat of 5.3 acres for nine (9) lots. Location: 18811 Duck Lake Trail. A public hearing. Mr. Bill Bonner, representing Charis, reviewed the request with the Commission, pointing out the significant site features. Planner Enger reviewed the Staff Report evaluating the request, stating concern for the constraints on Lot 9 based on the Shoreland Management Ordinance requirements and the proximity of the lot to Purgatory Creek. Staff pointed out that, while the lot was buildable, the design of lots in this manner presented the City with a likely candidate for a variance request in the future due to the limited buildable area. Staff also expressed concern for the grade of the street proposed through the plat, which was designed at a grade greater than that recommended for City streets. Mr. Bonner pointed out that because of the elevation of Duck Lake Trail and the desire of the proponent to maintain the existing house on the site, a lesser grade would be difficult to achieve between these two fixed features of the development. Chairman Bearman asked how the project might be affected by the Purgatory Creek Conservancy District. Staff determined that potentially Lots 7, 8, and 9 could be affected by the Conservancy area. Staff pointed out that, by elimination of Lot 9, proponent would be able to redesign the plat to also eliminate the need for variances for the two lots at the south end of the cul-de-sac for minimum frontage on a cul-de-sac. Torjesen stated that he would prefer to remain consistent in treatment of land within the Conservancy Area of Purgatory Creek, and, therefore, concurred with Staff, that Lot 9 should be eliminated. Schuck asked what the value of the homes would be in this project. Mr. Bonner responded that the homes would range from $120-150,000, • which would be consistent with the surrounding neighborhood. Planning Commission Minutes 6 September 12, 1983 MOTION 1 • Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Schuck, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Torjesen, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Charis for zoning district change from Rural to R1-13.5 for single family detached use for Maple Hill, based on plans and written materials dated August 15, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 9, 1983. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Schuck, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Charis for preliminary plat of 5.3 acres for eight (8) lots for Maple Hill, based on plans and written materials dated August 15, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 9, 1983. Motion carried--6-0-0 D. LILLIAN BECKMAN. Request for Preliminary Plat of 4.5 acres into three (3) single family detached lots. Location: 12400 Gerard Drive. A public hearing. Mr. Dick Sager, Spectrum Realty, representing Mrs. Beckman, reviewed the request with the Commission. Staff reviewed the recommendations of the Staff Report, pointing out that neighbors on either side had been contacted by Staff and had no objections to the proposed land division. Chairman Bearman asked for questions or comments from members of the audience. There were none. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Schuck, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Schuck, to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat for Lillian Beckman for three single family lots on 4.5 acres, based on plans dated May Planning Commission Minutes 7 September 12, 1983 • 27, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 9, 1983. Motion carried--6-0-0 E. PRAIRIE WASH ADDITION, by Ricky Ites. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service for a car wash/office/apartment land use and Preliminary Plat of 1.56 acres for one lot. Location: East of Prairie Center Drive and South of Valley View Road. A public hearing. Mr. Lee Johnson, representing proponent, reviewed the proposal with the Commission. Planner Enger reviewed the findings of the Staff Report and presented slides of similar projects in other communities. Torjesen asked what the uses would be on the surrounding sites. Staff responded that to the west was an existing bank, to the south was the Minnesota Tree site, to the north was Valley View Road, and to the east was 150,000 sq. ft. of retail use. Chairman Bearman asked if caretaker residences were allowed by the • Code. Staff responded that they were if they were inherent to the use. Hallett stated that he agreed with the Staff recommendations regarding the need for screening and landscaping. Torjesen stated that he felt strongly about screening of the property to the east. MOTION 1: Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner, to close the public. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 2: Motiin was made by Marhula, seconded by Schuck, to recommend to the City Council approval of the zoning district change from Rural to Commercial Regional Service for a car wash/office land use for the Prairie Wash Addition for Rickey Ites, based on plans and written materials dated July 25, and August 15, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report of September 9, 1983. Motion carried--6-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Schuck, to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of the Prairie Wash Addition for Rickey Ites for a car wash/office land use, based on Planning Commission Minutes 8 September 12, 1983 plans and written materials dated July 25, and August 15, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report of September 9, 1983. Motion carried--6-0-0 IV. OLD BUSINESS None. V. NEW BUSINESS None. VI. PLANNER'S REPORT None. VII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Torjesen, seconded by Marhula. Chairman Bearman adjourned the meeting at 11 :30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Kate Karnas Recording Secretary