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Planning Commission - 06/27/1983 AGENDA Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, June 27, 1983 7:30 p.m., City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Stan Johannes, Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck, Hakon Torjesen STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. May 23, 1983 B. June 6, 1983 III. MEMBERS REPORTS IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. HIGH TRAIL ESTATES 2ND ADDITION, by Countryside Investments, Inc. Request for Zoning from Rural to R1-13.5 and Preliminary Plat of 10 acres for 25 single family detached . lots. Location: 6451 Duck Lake Road. A continued public hearing. B. CROSSROADS TOWNHOMES, by Baton Corporation. Request for Preliminary Plat of 5.0 acres for seven (7) townhouse buildings on six (6) lots. Location: South of Pioneer Trail across from Prairie East 6th Addition. A public hearing. C. LEE DATA ACCESS, by Opus Corporation. Request for Pre- liminary Plat of approximately 0.4 acres to provide secondary access to Lee Data from W. 70th Street. Location: West of W. 70th Street adjacent to Lee Data and Shady Oak Industrial Park 5th Addition. A public hearing. D. FLYING CLOUD BUSINESS CENTER, by Investment Services Group. Request for Rezoning from Rural to I-2 Park of approximately 0.5 acres and Preliminary Plat of 2.9 acres, including the vacation of McKinley Lane right-of-way and drainage easements for office/warehouse uses. Location: Flying Cloud Drive and McKinley Lane. A public hearing. E. TARGET. Request for Site Plan Review for Retail Service Use. Location: East of Highway #169, North of Prairie Center Drive. A public meeting. V. OLD BUSINESS VI. NEW BUSINESS VII. PLANNER'S REPORT VIII. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, June 27, 1983 City Hall , 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Bearman, Virginia Gartner (7:40 p.m.), Robert Hallett, Stan Johannes, Hakon Torjesen MEMBERS ABSENT: Dennis Marhula, Ed Schuck STAFF PRESENT Chris Enger, Director of Planning Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Johannes, to approve the agenda as submitted. Motion carried--4-0-0 II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. May 23, 1983, Minutes MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen; seconded by Bearman, to approve the minutes of the May 23, 1983, Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried--4-0-0 B. June 6, 1983, Minutes MOTION: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to approve the minutes of the June 6, 1983, Planning Commission meeting with the following addition: Page 4, end of the first line on the page, add: "Hallett inquired as to whether the park fees charged were reflected based on the square footage of a structure. Planner Enger stated that it was based on acreage, only. Hallett questioned whether it was equitable to charge the same park fee for buildings of the same acreage, but larger square footage." Motion carried--4-0-1 (Johannes abstained) III. MEMBERS REPORTS None. Planning Commission Minutes 2 June 27, 1983 IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. HIGH TRAIL ESTATES •2ND ADDITION, by Countryside Investments, Inc. Request for Zoning from Rural to R1-13.5 and Preliminary Plat of 10 acres for 25 single family detached lots. Location: 6451 Duck Lake Road. A continued public hearing. At its meeting of June 6, 1983, the Planning Commission acted to continue the public hearing on this item, pending resolution of several matters involving the project design. Mr. Al Gray, RCM, proponent's engineers, reviewed the changes made to the plan. They were as follows: 1) The number of lots was reduced from 25 to 21 ; 2) Greater hydraulic capacity was designed into the storm water pipes; 3) Craig Drive was shifted easterly to a point where it would not be necessary to cut any trees for the purposes of the road; 4) Less lots were now abutting the larger existing lots to the northeast; 5) Development of the property to the north had been accommodated via a relocated road, which provided for more flexibility in design of lots on the northern property, and which avoided the problems inherent with the drop in grade along the north half of the northern property. Torjesen asked whether it was the intention of the proponent to work out an agreement to have the property to the north developed at the same time as the High Trails Estates 2nd Addition, or to make allowances for the development to the north at some time in the future. Mr. Gray responded that their intention was to show the ability of the land to the north to develop, based on the plans presented for High Trails Estates 2nd Addition. He stated that the proponent was willing to leave one lot undevelopab.le until the property to the north developed, at which time the undevelopable lot would have access. Planner Enger stated that physically, the plan was satisfactory to both parties, but that financial details had not yet been worked out. Mr. Leissner, Countryside Investments, stated that, as proponents, they felt obligated to the plan under review; however, if for some reason the arrangements could not be made, they would return to the Planning Commission for review and recommendation. Planner Enger summarized the Staff Report of June 24, 1983, regarding the project. Chairman Bearman asked for comments and questions from members of the audience. Dennis Howard, 6430 Undestad, stated that he was still concerned about the density of the lots as they abutted his property to the northeast . of this project. He stated that, even though proponent has increased the depth of the lots by 100 ft., he still did not feel it was appropriate for the development to propose two lots abutting his one lot. Planning Commission Minutes 3 June 27, 1983 It was pointed out to Mr. Howard that the front yard setback for homes in that R1-13.5 zoning district was 30 ft. Mr. Howard asked if there were any requirements that the owners build that close to the road, or whether they could build further back on the lots. Planner Enger stated that there were no requirements. Bob Borosch, 6470 Undestad, asked what the change had been to the previous plans for the swamp area. Mr. Gray explained that the encroachment into the swamp area had been decreased to less than half of what it had been under the previous plan. Mr. Borosch asked who would be responsible if there were storm water problems in the future. It was explained to Mr. Borosch that it would be a situational consideration, as storm water problems could result from a multitude of sources for this area. However, the current plan should aid in alleviation of the existing storm water problems in the area. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to close the public hearing, or continue. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for zoning from Rural to Rl- 13.5 for High Trail Estates 2nd Addition by Countryside Investments, based on revised plans dated May, 1983, and June 14, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Reports of June 3, 1983, and June 24, 1983. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Hallett, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for preliminary plat of 10 acres for 25 single family detached lots for High Trails Estates 2nd Addition by Countryside Investments, based on revised plans dated May, 1983, and June 14, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Reports of June 3, 1983, and June 24, 1983. Motion carried--5-0-0 B. CROSSROADS TOWNHOMES, by Baton Corporation. Request for Preliminary Plat of 5.0 acres for seven (7) townhouse buildings on six (6) lots. Location: South of Pioneer Trail across from Prairie East 6th Addition. A public hearing. Planning Commission Minutes 4 June 27, 1983 The Commission reviewed the request for preliminar y y platting of the Crossroads townhome project, which had previously been reviewed by the Planning Commission as part of the Bluffs East Planned Unit Development. At that time, platting was not part of the request for this portion of the Planned Unit Development. For purposes of ease of financing, the proponent was now requesting platting of the property. The Commission , acknowledged receipt of a letter from Mr. Robert McDonald, property owner immediately to the west of the project, and asked that it be part of the record of the meeting. Mr. McDonald's concerns centered around access to his property, both by roads and utilities for any future development of his land and his father's land, directly adjacent to the west of his property. Chairman Bearman stated that he had had a phone conversation with Mr. McDonald prior to the meeting during which they had discussed the Bluffs East project, and, in particular, the Crossroads Townhomes portion of the proposal. Chairman Bearman noted that Mr. McDonald had made a request for copies of Planning Commission and Council minutes, which he had not yet received. He asked Staff to check into this and to make certain that all pertinent minutes were sent to him. Mr. McDonald's greatest concerns involved the storm sewer for the area as it would affect his property, and any flexibility which may be lost by virtue of access not being planned from the Crossroads project to his and his father's property. Torjesen asked whether better access would be available to the McDonald property via an east/west road. Planner Enger stated that it would not, and suggested that better access would be obtained from Bennett Place or Blossom Road for the McDonald properties. Torjesen asked if the situation arose where Blossom Road was closed off, if it would be possible or necessary to obtain access from the Crossroads project. Planner Enger stated that topography of the area would make it difficult, if not impossible to do so. Hallett asked if the property could be developed as multiple. Chairman Bearman stated that, in his conversation with Mr. McDonald, he was told that the McDonald's were uncertain as to how they wanted to develop the land, from one single family home on a large lot to multiple residential. Planner Enger noted that the land surrounding the McDonald property to the north, south, and west, was all guided as low density residential, which would indicate single family residential development, unless the Comprehensive Guide Plan were to be amended. Is Hallett stated that he felt it was necessary to deal with the Crossroads project on its merits, and, at the time of proposed development of the McDonald property(ies), to deal with their proposals on their own merits. Planning Commission Minutes 5 June 27, 1983 • MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of the Crossroads Townhomes by Baton Corporation, based on plans dated May 18, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report of June 24, 1983. Motion carried--5-0-0 C. LEE DATA ACCESS, by Opus Corporation. Request for Pre- liminary Plat of approximately 0.4 acres to provide secondary access to Lee Data from W. 70th Street. Location: West of W. 70th Street adjacent to Lee Data and Shady Oak Industrial Park 5th Addition. A public hearing. Michelle Foster, Opus Corporation, presented the request on behalf iof the proponents. She stated that, at the time of the original request for the Lee Data project, the City had requested that a secondary access to W. 70th Street be established. Upon purchase of the property, and attempt to file the ownership at Hennepin County, proponents were told that they would have to file the property as a Registered Land Survey. Ms. Foster stated that the Opus Corporation would be the owner of both parcels A and B as shown in the exhibits, and that their intentions were to dedicate the road to the City in the future. Staff explained that the Registered Land Survey process only required a proceeding similar to that of a preliminary plat through the City, but that a final plat process was not necessary. Chairman Bearman asked for comments and questions from members of the audience. There were none. MOTION 1 : Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 2: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Registered Land Survey (RLS) of Opus Corporation/Lee Data, for access purposes to the Lee Data site, based on plans dated February 3, 1983, the Registered Land Survey, Planning Commission Minutes 6 June 27, 1983 • as shown to the Planning Commission and marked Exhibit A, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 24, 1983. D. FLYING CLOUD BUSINESS CENTER, by Investment Services Group. Request for Rezoning from Rural to I-2 Park of approximately 0.5 acres and Preliminary Plat of 2.9 acres, including the vacation of McKinley Lane right-of-way and drainage easements for office/warehouse uses. Location: Flying Cloud Drive and McKinley Lane. A public hearing. Mr. Tony Feffer, Investment Services Group, presented the request of proponent for development of industrial property to the Commission. Staff explained that the property requested to be rezoned was previously City-owned land, which had been purchased by proponent. Hallett asked how the City had obtained the land and why they would not want to maintain ownership. Planner Enger explained that the property was deeded to the City by the State of Minnesota as excess right-of-way in that area. The City has no plans, nor need for the land. Torjesen asked how the frontage road was affected by this property. Staff explained that it formed a 90 degree intersection with Shady Oak Road at the northeast area of the property. Torjesen inquired as to whether the 21 inch oak tree on the site could be saved. Staff stated that it would be saved. Torjesen questioned the site coverage of the project. Planner Enger stated that the project was under the Code maximums, at about 20% coverage. The Code allowed up to 30% coverage. Torjesen asked if truck loading would be possible from Shady Oak Road. Staff explained that it was not planned this way due to the high visibility from this read. Car parking was planned in this area, which could be screened from the public road. Torjesen asked why proponent was widening the right-of-way of the frontage road. Mr. Feffer responded that it was a requirement of the City at the time of development of the adjacent properties to any frontage road that the road be widened and the berming be completed. Chairman Bearman asked for questions and comments from members of the audience. There were none. MOTION 1 : • Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to close the public hearing. Motion carried--5-0-0 Planning Commission Minutes 7 June 27, 1983 • MOTION 2• Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett,to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for zoning from Rural to I-2 Park of approximately 0.5 acres for office/warehouse uses, for Investment Services Group for the Flying Cloud Business Center, based on plans dated June 8, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 24, 1983. Motion carried--5-0-0 MOTION 3: Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Hallett, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request for preliminary plat of 2.9 acres for office/warehouse uses, including vacation of McKinley Lane right-of-way and drainage easements, for Investment Services Group for the Flying. Cloud Business Center, based on plans dated June 8, 1983, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 24, 1983. Motion carried--5-0-0 E. TARGET. Request for Site Plan Review for Retail Service Use. Location: East of Highway #169, North of Prairie Center Drive. A public meeting. Representatives of Homart, Eden Prairie Center owners, Target, proponents, Suburban Engineering, proponents engineers, and proponent's architects were present to review the request with the Commission. Joe Linnae, Homart Devlopment Corporation, stated that the center would like to open the Target store in October, 1984. Dale Hamilton, Suburban Engineering, proponent's engineers, stated that the stacking distance to the entry of the Center from Highway #169 would be increased with the development of the project in order to alleviate traffic problems. Bert Schacter, Target architect, asked for consideration of the proposed limestone base aggregate for an exterior finish, as opposed to brick, as requested among the Staff Report conditions. Mr. Schacter also addressed screening of the mechanical units shown on the top of the structure. He pointed out that, due to the mass of the structure, as well as its elevation, and the location of the mechanical units in the center of the structure, it would be difficult to see the mechanical units from any elevation from a road or differing land use. Mr. Schacter then discussed the screening of the tire, battery, and accessory area (TBA), the garden center, and the truck docking area, all of which faced the Highway #169 frontage of the property. He showed pictures of other Target stores and the treatment of those areas at the other locations. Mr. Schacter pointed out that visibility of these areas was important to the Target stores in Planning Commission Minutes 8 June 27, 1983 • order to promote retail business of these services. It was pointed out that the skywalk proposed between Target and the remainder of the Center was to be the responsibility of the Homart Development corporation. Hallett asked if there were any guidelines in the City Code dealing with skywalks. Staff responded that there were not. Planning Staff expressed concern for the lack of screening of the TBA area. Based on standards of the landscape ordinance, and standards set by the Eden Prairie Center with their existing buildings and landscaping, the proposed plan was considered to be inadequate. Staff also expressed concern for other site plan features, including: 1) the building "turning its back" to the parking area to the south; 2) the lack of planting/screening material in front of the building; 3) consistency of the exterior materials with those of the existing buildings of the Center; 4) pedestrian access to the property from the west side of Highway #169; 5) adequacy of parking lot and pedestrian lighting on the site. Gartner asked how the building was connected to the Center mall . It was explained that there was an 80 ft. separation between the Target • building and the remainder of the mall, which would be spanned by skywalk at the upper level of the mall. Torjesen stated that he was concerned that this building be especially well designed and well landscaped and screened since it was located in such a visible location within the City and within the Eden Prairie Center. Torjesen questioned the concept of a one-story building in typically two-story shopping malls. Mr. Linnae stated that the ideas of two- story malls had changed. Merchandising of the type done by Target had been proven successful in other parts of the country recently. Mr. Hamilton, proponent's engineer, stated that it would cost nearly triple the amount of the grading to include a basement under the existing Target store. Chairman Bearman stated that he agreed with the need for screening of the TBA area, truck dock, and garden center. Hallett stated that he agreed, also. Hallett added that he felt strongly that pedestrian links be made to access the Center in the best possible manner. Torjesen stated that he felt the existing landscaping around the Eden Prairie Center would be a good indication of the level of landscaping and screening expected for the Target store. Chairman Bearman stated that he felt brick would be an important factor to maintain the consistency of appearance and treatment of the exteriors of the mall buildings. Planning Commission Minutes 9 June 27, 1983 • Johannes stated that he felt the TBA area, truck dock, and garden center needed more landscaping and - screening than proposed by proponent. He suggested that proponents work with Staff to create a plan that would be more appropriate and representative of the Center. Dick Brooks, Target, stated that he was concerned that these areas not be "double screened," or screened both at the street and at the building. The Commission concurred that this would not be necessary, but that one form of adequate screening, representative of the existing landscaping and screening of the Center, would be required. In further discussion of the landscaping and screening which existed in the Center, and which was expected of the additional uses of the Center, it was pointed out that the Sears TBA had perhaps set a precedent for screening of such areas by the manner in which they had screened this use from vision. Their screening consisted of a "half-wall" tall enough to block vehicles from view of the public. Also, Sears had used a similar method of screening their truck dock area, building a wall tall enough to block trucks from view of the public, but still providing adequate access and maneuvering space for their needs. Staff showed slides of other garden centers at other metropolitan Target stores which had used a similar screening . device for this use, as well. Johannes stated that his main concern was the sight lines from Highway #169 from this area. It was the consensus of the Commission that the site construction could proceed, but that the landscaping and screening should return to the Commission for further review. Commissioners reviewed the Staff recommended conditions of approval with the proponents, pointing out their concerns for various items as follows: Regarding a brick exterior--the Commissioners generally preferred brick as an exterior material, but were willing to consider other materials upon presentation by the proponent. Regarding screening of the mechanical equipment--the Commissioners asked for additional sight line cross sections from proponent, showing that the mechanical equipment was not visible from any direction. Regarding landscaping and screening of the Target store--the Commissioners agreed that this was the single most important item (covered by recommendations 3, 4, 5, and 6 of the Staff Report) to be dealt with at the next meeting by proponent. More information and stronger treatment, more consistent with the existing Eden Prairie Center landscaping and screening treatment, was necessary, especially due to the fact that the store would be so visible from Highway #169. Commissioners concurred that it would be up to proponent to prove that "double screening" would not be necessary along Planning Commission Minutes 10 June 27, 1983 • the road and at the building. Regarding storage of the carts--the Commissioners concurred that the methods discussed and proposed by proponent were adequate. Regarding the pedestrian access--the Commissioners concurred that it was most important that adequate access be provided for crossing of Highway #169. Pedestrian access, as shown on other portions of the plan, were agreed to be adequate. Regarding signage--the Commissioners concurred that the proposed plan was adequate and that no additional signage should be allowed without review. MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Hallett, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Target to begin site construction, with the exception of landscaping, based on plans submitted and dated June, 1983. Further, said approval shall be subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report of June 24, 1983 as further elaborated upon and discussed at the Planning Commission meeting of June 27, 1983, with the addition of recommendation #10: • Additional detail be provided regarding cart storage on-site. Said approval shall also be subject to further review of the landscaping and screening by the Planning Commission prior to approval of the overall site plan by the City Council. Motion carried--5-0-0 V. OLD BUSINESS Old Farm Tiles The Commission discussed the problems inherent with old farm tiles, the whereabouts of which were unknown, and the difficulties of locating them. In other cities, much damage had been caused by these tiles, which often cost a great deal of time and money to correct. MOTION: Motion was made by Torjesen, seconded by Gartner, to contact the Eden Prairie Historical Society, asking them to alert the older residents of the area regarding the dangers of the old farm tiles to the community, and requesting the formation of a volunteer committee to prepare a map of known farm tiles in the community for future use by the City Staff in evaluation of projects and mitigation of the problems farm tiles are known to cause, prior to development and construction in these areas. Motion carried--5-0-0 Planning Commission Minutes 11 June 27, 1983 VI. NEW BUSINESS None. VII. PLANNER'S REPORT None. VIII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Hallett, seconded by Johannes. Chairman Bearman adjourned the meeting at 12:30 a.m. Respectfully submitted, Kate Karnas Planning Secretary